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"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


Now she has him spreading and packing about 30 yards of stone dust
on
the trails so the goofy horses won't trip.

You really do need to earn some peanuts to go with the beer......

-----------------------------

I've been too tired at night to drink the beer. A shower and bed is
all I want.

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On 8/20/13 9:55 AM, True North wrote:
Those Super Hawks sure we're nice in the late sixties.
I had a Honda 160 and it seemed like a toy next to my friend's Super Hawk.


Those Hondas were terrific, especially in comparison to the smaller
British bikes, which were much less reliable and as everyone knows
leaked oil.

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On 8/20/2013 8:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


"Hank©" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 8/19/2013 11:56 PM, thumper wrote:
On 8/12/2013 3:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The "banksters" didn't cause the recession. I think it would be more
accurate to call it the "Barney Frank & Co." recession.

You keep making that assertion. I'd like to see you document and
quantify it. I think your proportion is off by an order of magnitude or
so. Show good accounting and I'll accept it.


Mr Luddite doesn't work for peanuts. I doubt you have the resources to
pay him to enlighten you.

-----------------------------

To the contrary, Mr. Luddite indeed now works for peanuts. Mrs. E.
bought him a six pack of Sam Adams for a week's work clearing trees,
branches and briars and using his tractor to create horse riding trails
in the woods beside his house.

Now she has him spreading and packing about 30 yards of stone dust on
the trails so the goofy horses won't trip.


Hard work builds character, something lacking in some of our liberal
friends. ;-)

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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:31:03 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:39:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/20/13 9:55 AM, True North wrote:
Those Super Hawks sure we're nice in the late sixties.
I had a Honda 160 and it seemed like a toy next to my friend's Super Hawk.


Those Hondas were terrific, especially in comparison to the smaller
British bikes, which were much less reliable and as everyone knows
leaked oil.

I had a Honda 350 for a couple of weeks and I even rode it a couple
times. I got it in 10 boxes and put it back together, then I sold it.
I had a Benelli 250 for quite a while and I had a "fix it and sell it"
Yamaha 350 for a few weeks.

After fooling around with those, it was Harleys for me.

My buddy went through his Triumph and Norton days too but he ended up
on Harleys.
Between us we probably had over 30. We made money on every one of
them.

Well, I probably won't make any money on my Guzzi, but I'll get about 75% of what I paid for it. Of
course, that's assuming I outlive it, which I doubt.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

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In article ,
says...

On 8/20/13 9:55 AM, True North wrote:
Those Super Hawks sure we're nice in the late sixties.
I had a Honda 160 and it seemed like a toy next to my friend's Super Hawk.


Those Hondas were terrific, especially in comparison to the smaller
British bikes, which were much less reliable and as everyone knows
leaked oil.

My first after a mini-bike was a Honda 90. Street bike that we used as a
dirt bike. It ran wide open at all times, bullet proof!

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In article ,
says...

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:39:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/20/13 9:55 AM, True North wrote:
Those Super Hawks sure we're nice in the late sixties.
I had a Honda 160 and it seemed like a toy next to my friend's Super Hawk.


Those Hondas were terrific, especially in comparison to the smaller
British bikes, which were much less reliable and as everyone knows
leaked oil.

I had a Honda 350 for a couple of weeks and I even rode it a couple
times. I got it in 10 boxes and put it back together, then I sold it.
I had a Benelli 250 for quite a while and I had a "fix it and sell it"
Yamaha 350 for a few weeks.

After fooling around with those, it was Harleys for me.

My buddy went through his Triumph and Norton days too but he ended up
on Harleys.
Between us we probably had over 30. We made money on every one of
them.

When we were kids there were motorcycles galore on the farm. Me, my two
brothers, four cousins and friends of all of ours kept our bikes there.
Plus, one of my friends worked for the local Kawasaki dealer. He got one
of the two cycle, three cylinder Kaw 750's. Those things were radical.
More torque than you can imagine. I was riding it one day behind a semi,
on a two lane highway, went to pass, whipped around the truck, kicked it
down a gear and gassed it. Damned front end came up and scared the ****
out of me!

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In article ,
says...

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:07:11 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

I had a Honda 350 for a couple of weeks and I even rode it a couple
times. I got it in 10 boxes and put it back together, then I sold it.
I had a Benelli 250 for quite a while and I had a "fix it and sell it"
Yamaha 350 for a few weeks.

After fooling around with those, it was Harleys for me.

My buddy went through his Triumph and Norton days too but he ended up
on Harleys.
Between us we probably had over 30. We made money on every one of
them.

When we were kids there were motorcycles galore on the farm. Me, my two
brothers, four cousins and friends of all of ours kept our bikes there.
Plus, one of my friends worked for the local Kawasaki dealer. He got one
of the two cycle, three cylinder Kaw 750's. Those things were radical.
More torque than you can imagine. I was riding it one day behind a semi,
on a two lane highway, went to pass, whipped around the truck, kicked it
down a gear and gassed it. Damned front end came up and scared the ****
out of me!

That Yamaha RX350 I had was the wheelstandingest motorcycle I ever
saw. It was grossly top heavy with too much weight on the back wheel
and a ton of torque that came on in mid range sort of by surprise.
Every novice I ever saw ride one lifted the front wheel and a scary
number of them crashed. That was how I got it. The new owner crashed
it on Rt 1 in Alexandria and would not get on it again.
I picked it up off the side of the road in my van and gave him $300
I ended up putting a pair of fork tubes in it, a fender and selling it
for $900. I am not sure I put 5 miles on it myself. I just rode it
enough to be sure it was OK before I sold it.
I did learn a little about that 3 coat paint system Yamaha used. I had
to shoot the fender. I did it all with those little "baby food jar"
sprayers. It actually didn't come out badly.

That Kaw 750 was a trip. Three cylinders and it was like it had no in
between, the throttle was more like a switch, the thing was off or on!!
And when it was on, it was on! In town you just had to burp the
throttle, no cruising with that thing.

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On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:40:49 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:07:11 -0400, iBoaterer

wrote:



In article ,

says...



I had a Honda 350 for a couple of weeks and I even rode it a couple

times. I got it in 10 boxes and put it back together, then I sold it.

I had a Benelli 250 for quite a while and I had a "fix it and sell it"

Yamaha 350 for a few weeks.



After fooling around with those, it was Harleys for me.



My buddy went through his Triumph and Norton days too but he ended up

on Harleys.

Between us we probably had over 30. We made money on every one of

them.



When we were kids there were motorcycles galore on the farm. Me, my two

brothers, four cousins and friends of all of ours kept our bikes there.

Plus, one of my friends worked for the local Kawasaki dealer. He got one

of the two cycle, three cylinder Kaw 750's. Those things were radical.

More torque than you can imagine. I was riding it one day behind a semi,

on a two lane highway, went to pass, whipped around the truck, kicked it

down a gear and gassed it. Damned front end came up and scared the ****

out of me!



That Yamaha RX350 I had was the wheelstandingest motorcycle I ever

saw. It was grossly top heavy with too much weight on the back wheel

and a ton of torque that came on in mid range sort of by surprise.

Every novice I ever saw ride one lifted the front wheel and a scary

number of them crashed. That was how I got it. The new owner crashed

it on Rt 1 in Alexandria and would not get on it again.

I picked it up off the side of the road in my van and gave him $300

I ended up putting a pair of fork tubes in it, a fender and selling it

for $900. I am not sure I put 5 miles on it myself. I just rode it

enough to be sure it was OK before I sold it.

I did learn a little about that 3 coat paint system Yamaha used. I had

to shoot the fender. I did it all with those little "baby food jar"

sprayers. It actually didn't come out badly.

Back in the '70s I was riding in the dirt a lot (some enduros)and a friend had a Yamaha TT500 dirt bike. Heavy, but a ton of torque. He ended up looping it one day when it hooked up better than he expected, and he got rid of it soon after.

Another guy had a Maico 400. What a sweet bike! On a good dirt road, you could hang the back end out and it would just stay there, easily controlled by the throttle. No tendency to snap at all. Lots of fun.

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In article ,
says...

"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 8/12/2013 3:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The "banksters" didn't cause the recession. I think it would be
more
accurate to call it the "Barney Frank & Co." recession.

You keep making that assertion. I'd like to see you document and
quantify it. I think your proportion is off by an order of magnitude
or
so. Show good accounting and I'll accept it.

----------------------------------

From various published sources:


It's really meaningless posting partisan scribblings.

I prefer facts and graphs showing facts.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...y-frank-didnt-
cause-the-housing-crisis/2011/11/28/gIQANqLH5N_blog.html

Perhaps you have actual facts showing the private market role in the
"sub-prime crisis" was not as depicted in the above link.
Probably not.

Finding a scapegoat and laying all the blame on the scapegoat is not the
mark of a reasonable person.

There are many reasons to consider Franks a certain form of scum.
But to use him as a scapegoat to exonerate all the other the real
"culprits" reeks of a mindless partisanship.
And yet you continue.
It doesn't work.

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"Boating All Out" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 8/12/2013 3:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

The "banksters" didn't cause the recession. I think it would be
more
accurate to call it the "Barney Frank & Co." recession.

You keep making that assertion. I'd like to see you document and
quantify it. I think your proportion is off by an order of
magnitude
or
so. Show good accounting and I'll accept it.

----------------------------------

From various published sources:


It's really meaningless posting partisan scribblings.

I prefer facts and graphs showing facts.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...y-frank-didnt-
cause-the-housing-crisis/2011/11/28/gIQANqLH5N_blog.html

Perhaps you have actual facts showing the private market role in the
"sub-prime crisis" was not as depicted in the above link.
Probably not.

Finding a scapegoat and laying all the blame on the scapegoat is not
the
mark of a reasonable person.

There are many reasons to consider Franks a certain form of scum.
But to use him as a scapegoat to exonerate all the other the real
"culprits" reeks of a mindless partisanship.
And yet you continue.
It doesn't work.

--------------------------------

Holy Crap. You post a link to someone's opinion blog giving his
opinions and think his take is entirely accurate? In fact, the bulk
of what he wrote supports my argument.

It didn't start in 2003 through 2008 where this guy focuses his
attention. By then Frank was starting to cover his tracks. It
started back in 1992, and Frank was in the midst of it all.

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In article ,
says...


Holy Crap. You post a link to someone's opinion blog giving his
opinions and think his take is entirely accurate? In fact, the bulk
of what he wrote supports my argument.

It didn't start in 2003 through 2008 where this guy focuses his
attention. By then Frank was starting to cover his tracks. It
started back in 1992, and Frank was in the midst of it all.

It was a link that covered the most relevant facts. You can't dispute
them, and there are many reputable studies that show the CRA had nothing
to do with the run up and meltdown.
That's a right-wing partisan stance. And of course, "It's all Barney
Frank's fault." God, that's easy.
The Republican Congress and President are blameless. Wall Street and
financial institution greed had no role. Perfect.

You can easily find the facts.
Instead of disputing those facts, you continue to scapegoat Frank for
the entire run-up and meltdown.
"Frank covering his tracks." The all-powerful Barney Frank, nearly
always a member the minority in Congress, able to leap tall buildings in
a single bound, and change the reporting of financial institutions and
the Congressional Record to revise history.
Pretty funny.
And sad at the same time.
But I have no need to change your mind. That's your business.
Just pointing out you're being partisan and not thinking, and not
examining any facts that run counter to your partisan beliefs.
Nothing new there.

In any case, I'm done with "It's all Frank's fault" discussion.
Just too inane to continue.

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In article ,
says...

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:40:49 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:07:11 -0400, iBoaterer

wrote:



In article ,

says...



I had a Honda 350 for a couple of weeks and I even rode it a couple

times. I got it in 10 boxes and put it back together, then I sold it.

I had a Benelli 250 for quite a while and I had a "fix it and sell it"

Yamaha 350 for a few weeks.



After fooling around with those, it was Harleys for me.



My buddy went through his Triumph and Norton days too but he ended up

on Harleys.

Between us we probably had over 30. We made money on every one of

them.



When we were kids there were motorcycles galore on the farm. Me, my two

brothers, four cousins and friends of all of ours kept our bikes there.

Plus, one of my friends worked for the local Kawasaki dealer. He got one

of the two cycle, three cylinder Kaw 750's. Those things were radical.

More torque than you can imagine. I was riding it one day behind a semi,

on a two lane highway, went to pass, whipped around the truck, kicked it

down a gear and gassed it. Damned front end came up and scared the ****

out of me!



That Yamaha RX350 I had was the wheelstandingest motorcycle I ever

saw. It was grossly top heavy with too much weight on the back wheel

and a ton of torque that came on in mid range sort of by surprise.

Every novice I ever saw ride one lifted the front wheel and a scary

number of them crashed. That was how I got it. The new owner crashed

it on Rt 1 in Alexandria and would not get on it again.

I picked it up off the side of the road in my van and gave him $300

I ended up putting a pair of fork tubes in it, a fender and selling it

for $900. I am not sure I put 5 miles on it myself. I just rode it

enough to be sure it was OK before I sold it.

I did learn a little about that 3 coat paint system Yamaha used. I had

to shoot the fender. I did it all with those little "baby food jar"

sprayers. It actually didn't come out badly.

Back in the '70s I was riding in the dirt a lot (some enduros)and a friend had a Yamaha TT500 dirt bike. Heavy, but a ton of torque. He ended up looping it one day when it hooked up better than he expected, and he got rid of it soon after.

Another guy had a Maico 400. What a sweet bike! On a good dirt road, you could hang the back end out and it would just stay there, easily controlled by the throttle. No tendency to snap at all. Lots of fun.

That's what I liked about the 80's Suzuki RM250 I had, fast as hell but
controllable.

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On 8/19/2013 10:53 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:44:55 -0700, thumper wrote:

On 8/12/2013 11:10 PM, wrote:

Pretty much but you left pout the repeal of Glass Stegall and the
CFMA. That allowed consumer banks to deal in shaky commodities (those
repackaged loans) and the CFMA that allowed the derivatives in the
first place.
Both of those were Clinton's baby.

What was the name of the bill again? Who were the sponsors? What was
their party affiliation? What did Phil's wife do?

You also have to look at who supported it. It was backed by Clinton,
Summers, Rubin and Greenspan.
The four whoresmen of the apocalypse.

Agreed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQjM5qsVryw

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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/20/13 9:55 AM, True North wrote:
Those Super Hawks sure we're nice in the late sixties.
I had a Honda 160 and it seemed like a toy next to my friend's Super Hawk.


Those Hondas were terrific, especially in comparison to the smaller
British bikes, which were much less reliable and as everyone knows leaked oil.

Like a Harley, they did not leak oil, they marked their spot. My first
bike was a Moped frame with a Triumph Cub 125 cc engine. Was a ill
handling rocket. Last bike was a 350 Kawasaki rotary valve baby brother to
the H1. Another rocket, that handled a little better. Rotary valve came
apart and engine broke. Even split one barrel. Wife was happy, very happy
when bike was not repairable cost wise. She stated you never fell off your
racecar.

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wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:29:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


I think I've finally finished buying, toting and spreading bags of mulch
for m'lady. 244 bags this season.
...
But it is good exercise.

I just finished getting the concrete in for garden edging in the front
yard.
It was 40 bags of Sak-crete mixed in a wheel barrow. That is pretty
good exercise too.

Next is to mortar in elderado stone on the pert above ground. That
goes pretty fast tho.

I have to replace a small retaining wall. Going to buy a small mixer at
Harbor Freight. $150 is less than they want for used on Craigslist. Can
sell it for at least $75 after the job. Cheaper than rental.

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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...

On 8/20/13 9:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


In the past 12 years I rode one of them once for about 50 feet. Did
nothing for me. The only things I'll ride must have an ignition on/off
switch or pedals.


You'll appreciate this. When I was in Kansas, I dated a girl for a short
while whose daddy owned a commercial stables and a number of horses.

Being a lad from the *countryside* of New Haven, I wasn't much
interested in horses and I never ever went horseback riding with her.
Instead, I told her, I brought my horse with me...which, at the time,
was a 305 cc Honda SuperHawk that I had bought used after selling off my
250 cc Honda "Dream."

I really liked that SuperHawk. Looked exactly like this, and was
reliable and a delight to ride.

http://tinyurl.com/mn57hvv

--------------------------------

I had one also ... except it was a 1965. Bought it while living in
Zion, IL when I was attending the Navy ET schools for 2 years.
I rode that thing year round, from our apartment in Zion to the Navy base
and back, even in snow storms. Mrs.E. had our car (a 1970 Fiat Sports
Coupe) because we had a then young daughter and she needed transportation.

Traded the SuperHawk for a Honda 350 when I received orders to Puerto
Rico. We rented a house off base and within a month a guy walked up our
driveway one day, looking at the Honda 350. He spoke Spanish of course,
and I couldn't completely understand him. But then he pulled a wad of
bills out of his pocket, peeled off $600 of them and offered them to me
while pointing at the bike. I gave him the keys and waved goodbye.

My buddy riding his Super Hawk over near San Quentin prison one day, lose
of control and lays down the bike. Slides to a stop a foot from the front
of a CHP car. Cop did not even give home a ticket for stupid driving. Did
recommend he slow down a bit. Your story of selling the bike reminds me of
selling my dune buggy. Was in the driveway one day and guy stops and asks
if it is for sale. Said how much did he offer. I decided it was for sale.

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In article 1947406646398795649.148221bmckeenospam-
, says...

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...

On 8/20/13 9:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


In the past 12 years I rode one of them once for about 50 feet. Did
nothing for me. The only things I'll ride must have an ignition on/off
switch or pedals.


You'll appreciate this. When I was in Kansas, I dated a girl for a short
while whose daddy owned a commercial stables and a number of horses.

Being a lad from the *countryside* of New Haven, I wasn't much
interested in horses and I never ever went horseback riding with her.
Instead, I told her, I brought my horse with me...which, at the time,
was a 305 cc Honda SuperHawk that I had bought used after selling off my
250 cc Honda "Dream."

I really liked that SuperHawk. Looked exactly like this, and was
reliable and a delight to ride.

http://tinyurl.com/mn57hvv

--------------------------------

I had one also ... except it was a 1965. Bought it while living in
Zion, IL when I was attending the Navy ET schools for 2 years.
I rode that thing year round, from our apartment in Zion to the Navy base
and back, even in snow storms. Mrs.E. had our car (a 1970 Fiat Sports
Coupe) because we had a then young daughter and she needed transportation.

Traded the SuperHawk for a Honda 350 when I received orders to Puerto
Rico. We rented a house off base and within a month a guy walked up our
driveway one day, looking at the Honda 350. He spoke Spanish of course,
and I couldn't completely understand him. But then he pulled a wad of
bills out of his pocket, peeled off $600 of them and offered them to me
while pointing at the bike. I gave him the keys and waved goodbye.

My buddy riding his Super Hawk over near San Quentin prison one day, lose
of control and lays down the bike. Slides to a stop a foot from the front
of a CHP car. Cop did not even give home a ticket for stupid driving. Did
recommend he slow down a bit. Your story of selling the bike reminds me of
selling my dune buggy. Was in the driveway one day and guy stops and asks
if it is for sale. Said how much did he offer. I decided it was for sale.

I've always said everything I have is for sale.

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"Califbill" wrote in message
...

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:

Traded the SuperHawk for a Honda 350 when I received orders to
Puerto
Rico. We rented a house off base and within a month a guy walked
up our
driveway one day, looking at the Honda 350. He spoke Spanish of
course,
and I couldn't completely understand him. But then he pulled a wad
of
bills out of his pocket, peeled off $600 of them and offered them to
me
while pointing at the bike. I gave him the keys and waved goodbye.

Your story of selling the bike reminds me of
selling my dune buggy. Was in the driveway one day and guy stops and
asks
if it is for sale. Said how much did he offer. I decided it was for
sale.

--------------------------------

Shortly before receiving orders to Puerto Rico I had purchased (and
financed) my first "new" car. 1972 Ford Pinto. :-)
The Navy paid to ship it to Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico restricted cars
brought to the island and to qualify it had to be less than a few
years old to be allowed, so I had to have a relatively new car.

After we settled down I found out that *all* cars .... new and old ...
had a severe import tax placed on them for Puerto Rican customers.
The purpose of the tax was to limit the number of cars coming in
because they had a serious problem with what to do with all the old,
discarded ones.

Within a few weeks I received a cash offer from another Puerto Rican
for the Pinto for a couple of hundred more than I had paid for it back
in IL.
I figured if I sold it, I could pay off the loan, saving all the
interest as well.

There was a wealth of used cars for sale on the Navy base, left by
people who had been transferred out. One of the warrant officers had
set up a little "side" business, buying the cars from the people
getting transferred .... or just acquiring them after they left. He
really did everyone a great service because we could get some wheels
cheap. The problem was getting them registered, but he had that
covered also. He had a friend in the Alabama Motor Vehicle Registry
who, for a $25 fee, would send you plates and a registration made out
in your name but to some fictitious address.
It was kinda funny because half the base came from Alabama, according
to their car registrations.

So, I accepted the offer for the Pinto and bought a beat up old VW
Beatle and a really cool, early 60s Bentley. Bought both for a
couple of hundred and used them for the next 2 years while stationed
there.

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On Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:09:39 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:

--------------------------------



Shortly before receiving orders to Puerto Rico I had purchased (and

financed) my first "new" car. 1972 Ford Pinto. :-)

The Navy paid to ship it to Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico restricted cars

brought to the island and to qualify it had to be less than a few

years old to be allowed, so I had to have a relatively new car.



After we settled down I found out that *all* cars .... new and old ...

had a severe import tax placed on them for Puerto Rican customers.

The purpose of the tax was to limit the number of cars coming in

because they had a serious problem with what to do with all the old,

discarded ones.



Within a few weeks I received a cash offer from another Puerto Rican

for the Pinto for a couple of hundred more than I had paid for it back

in IL.

I figured if I sold it, I could pay off the loan, saving all the

interest as well.



There was a wealth of used cars for sale on the Navy base, left by

people who had been transferred out. One of the warrant officers had

set up a little "side" business, buying the cars from the people

getting transferred .... or just acquiring them after they left. He

really did everyone a great service because we could get some wheels

cheap. The problem was getting them registered, but he had that

covered also. He had a friend in the Alabama Motor Vehicle Registry

who, for a $25 fee, would send you plates and a registration made out

in your name but to some fictitious address.

It was kinda funny because half the base came from Alabama, according

to their car registrations.



So, I accepted the offer for the Pinto and bought a beat up old VW

Beatle and a really cool, early 60s Bentley. Bought both for a

couple of hundred and used them for the next 2 years while stationed

there.

Back in early 1972 I decided to celebrate getting a job at 'the Corp' by buying a spanking new car.. my first new one.
Looked at the Pintos but their reputation was on the drop by then.
Bought a 1972 VW Super Beatle for $2600.
Could have bought a 1971 convertible VW demonstrator that the dealer owner's wife had supposedly driven but I wanted that first year for the Super Beatle.

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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:14:40 -0500, Califbill wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:29:54 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


I think I've finally finished buying, toting and spreading bags of mulch
for m'lady. 244 bags this season.
...
But it is good exercise.

I just finished getting the concrete in for garden edging in the front
yard.
It was 40 bags of Sak-crete mixed in a wheel barrow. That is pretty
good exercise too.

Next is to mortar in elderado stone on the pert above ground. That
goes pretty fast tho.

I have to replace a small retaining wall. Going to buy a small mixer at
Harbor Freight. $150 is less than they want for used on Craigslist. Can
sell it for at least $75 after the job. Cheaper than rental.

My neighbor did that when building his deck. Saved some decent bucks, and had no problems with the
concrete.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:09:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 1947406646398795649.148221bmckeenospam-
, says...

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...

On 8/20/13 9:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


In the past 12 years I rode one of them once for about 50 feet. Did
nothing for me. The only things I'll ride must have an ignition on/off
switch or pedals.


You'll appreciate this. When I was in Kansas, I dated a girl for a short
while whose daddy owned a commercial stables and a number of horses.

Being a lad from the *countryside* of New Haven, I wasn't much
interested in horses and I never ever went horseback riding with her.
Instead, I told her, I brought my horse with me...which, at the time,
was a 305 cc Honda SuperHawk that I had bought used after selling off my
250 cc Honda "Dream."

I really liked that SuperHawk. Looked exactly like this, and was
reliable and a delight to ride.

http://tinyurl.com/mn57hvv

--------------------------------

I had one also ... except it was a 1965. Bought it while living in
Zion, IL when I was attending the Navy ET schools for 2 years.
I rode that thing year round, from our apartment in Zion to the Navy base
and back, even in snow storms. Mrs.E. had our car (a 1970 Fiat Sports
Coupe) because we had a then young daughter and she needed transportation.

Traded the SuperHawk for a Honda 350 when I received orders to Puerto
Rico. We rented a house off base and within a month a guy walked up our
driveway one day, looking at the Honda 350. He spoke Spanish of course,
and I couldn't completely understand him. But then he pulled a wad of
bills out of his pocket, peeled off $600 of them and offered them to me
while pointing at the bike. I gave him the keys and waved goodbye.

My buddy riding his Super Hawk over near San Quentin prison one day, lose
of control and lays down the bike. Slides to a stop a foot from the front
of a CHP car. Cop did not even give home a ticket for stupid driving. Did
recommend he slow down a bit. Your story of selling the bike reminds me of
selling my dune buggy. Was in the driveway one day and guy stops and asks
if it is for sale. Said how much did he offer. I decided it was for sale.

I've always said everything I have is for sale.

Even your jeeps?

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

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In article ,
says...

On Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:09:39 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:

--------------------------------



Shortly before receiving orders to Puerto Rico I had purchased (and

financed) my first "new" car. 1972 Ford Pinto. :-)

The Navy paid to ship it to Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico restricted cars

brought to the island and to qualify it had to be less than a few

years old to be allowed, so I had to have a relatively new car.



After we settled down I found out that *all* cars .... new and old ...

had a severe import tax placed on them for Puerto Rican customers.

The purpose of the tax was to limit the number of cars coming in

because they had a serious problem with what to do with all the old,

discarded ones.



Within a few weeks I received a cash offer from another Puerto Rican

for the Pinto for a couple of hundred more than I had paid for it back

in IL.

I figured if I sold it, I could pay off the loan, saving all the

interest as well.



There was a wealth of used cars for sale on the Navy base, left by

people who had been transferred out. One of the warrant officers had

set up a little "side" business, buying the cars from the people

getting transferred .... or just acquiring them after they left. He

really did everyone a great service because we could get some wheels

cheap. The problem was getting them registered, but he had that

covered also. He had a friend in the Alabama Motor Vehicle Registry

who, for a $25 fee, would send you plates and a registration made out

in your name but to some fictitious address.

It was kinda funny because half the base came from Alabama, according

to their car registrations.



So, I accepted the offer for the Pinto and bought a beat up old VW

Beatle and a really cool, early 60s Bentley. Bought both for a

couple of hundred and used them for the next 2 years while stationed

there.

Back in early 1972 I decided to celebrate getting a job at 'the Corp' by buying a spanking new car.. my first new one.
Looked at the Pintos but their reputation was on the drop by then.
Bought a 1972 VW Super Beatle for $2600.
Could have bought a 1971 convertible VW demonstrator that the dealer owner's wife had supposedly driven but I wanted that first year for the Super Beatle.

I know a person who had a used Pinto in the San Francisco area. It had
that stupid looking kit that made the front look like a Rolls Royce!!!
It got stolen in the city, she called the cops, they got there and she
was crying, cop asks her for a description, after she gives the
description he asks "why are you crying?"!!!!

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:09:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 1947406646398795649.148221bmckeenospam-
, says...

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...

On 8/20/13 9:33 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


In the past 12 years I rode one of them once for about 50 feet. Did
nothing for me. The only things I'll ride must have an ignition on/off
switch or pedals.


You'll appreciate this. When I was in Kansas, I dated a girl for a short
while whose daddy owned a commercial stables and a number of horses.

Being a lad from the *countryside* of New Haven, I wasn't much
interested in horses and I never ever went horseback riding with her.
Instead, I told her, I brought my horse with me...which, at the time,
was a 305 cc Honda SuperHawk that I had bought used after selling off my
250 cc Honda "Dream."

I really liked that SuperHawk. Looked exactly like this, and was
reliable and a delight to ride.

http://tinyurl.com/mn57hvv

--------------------------------

I had one also ... except it was a 1965. Bought it while living in
Zion, IL when I was attending the Navy ET schools for 2 years.
I rode that thing year round, from our apartment in Zion to the Navy base
and back, even in snow storms. Mrs.E. had our car (a 1970 Fiat Sports
Coupe) because we had a then young daughter and she needed transportation.

Traded the SuperHawk for a Honda 350 when I received orders to Puerto
Rico. We rented a house off base and within a month a guy walked up our
driveway one day, looking at the Honda 350. He spoke Spanish of course,
and I couldn't completely understand him. But then he pulled a wad of
bills out of his pocket, peeled off $600 of them and offered them to me
while pointing at the bike. I gave him the keys and waved goodbye.

My buddy riding his Super Hawk over near San Quentin prison one day, lose
of control and lays down the bike. Slides to a stop a foot from the front
of a CHP car. Cop did not even give home a ticket for stupid driving. Did
recommend he slow down a bit. Your story of selling the bike reminds me of
selling my dune buggy. Was in the driveway one day and guy stops and asks
if it is for sale. Said how much did he offer. I decided it was for sale.

I've always said everything I have is for sale.

Even your jeeps?

John (Gun Nut) H.

I have no jeeps. Do you?

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"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


I know a person who had a used Pinto in the San Francisco area. It had
that stupid looking kit that made the front look like a Rolls Royce!!!
It got stolen in the city, she called the cops, they got there and she
was crying, cop asks her for a description, after she gives the
description he asks "why are you crying?"!!!!

------------------------------

I didn't have it long but as I recall, it wasn't really a bad car.
It was new, cheap and all I could really afford at the time. Got me,
my wife, infant daughter and two other Navy guys who needed a ride
home from IL to MA. Then onto Bayonne, NJ for transport to Puerto
Rico.

That was before they realized that they tended to blow up when hit
from behind.

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In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


I know a person who had a used Pinto in the San Francisco area. It had
that stupid looking kit that made the front look like a Rolls Royce!!!
It got stolen in the city, she called the cops, they got there and she
was crying, cop asks her for a description, after she gives the
description he asks "why are you crying?"!!!!

------------------------------

I didn't have it long but as I recall, it wasn't really a bad car.
It was new, cheap and all I could really afford at the time. Got me,
my wife, infant daughter and two other Navy guys who needed a ride
home from IL to MA. Then onto Bayonne, NJ for transport to Puerto
Rico.

That was before they realized that they tended to blow up when hit
from behind.

Oh, she put a BUNCH of miles on that thing! It really was reliable.

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In article , says...

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:14:40 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Like a Harley, they did not leak oil, they marked their spot

Most of the oil from a Harley comes from the chain oiler. You can
adjust that way down or simply turn it off ... but then you have to
remember to oil the chain.
The push rod tubes may leak a little but that is usually because the
head was off and they were not put back with new seals.

A living room rebuild no doubt. Back in the 80's I knew quite a few people who kept their
Harley's in their living rooms so that they could drool over them all of the time.

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:15:51 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


I know a person who had a used Pinto in the San Francisco area. It had
that stupid looking kit that made the front look like a Rolls Royce!!!
It got stolen in the city, she called the cops, they got there and she
was crying, cop asks her for a description, after she gives the
description he asks "why are you crying?"!!!!

------------------------------

I didn't have it long but as I recall, it wasn't really a bad car.
It was new, cheap and all I could really afford at the time. Got me,
my wife, infant daughter and two other Navy guys who needed a ride
home from IL to MA. Then onto Bayonne, NJ for transport to Puerto
Rico.

That was before they realized that they tended to blow up when hit
from behind.

Oh, she put a BUNCH of miles on that thing! It really was reliable.

My most unlikely car was a 71 Gremlin. I didn't buy it, I got it for
free but I ended up putting 50,000 miles on it and selling it for
$500.

Yeah, had an aquaintence in the town I lived in that bought a Gremlin
brand new. He traded it in for one of those AMC cars that looked like a
bubble.

It really wasn't that horrible for a free car.
All of those AMC 6's had a bad habit of fouling the #5 plug. I got to
the point that I would just swap it out and clean it. I had several in
the glove box and I could do it at a long light. I really only did
that once on a bet but I had the money in my wallet when the light
changed. (Rt 5 and Camp Springs Road, a really oppressive light)