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On Friday, 2 August 2013 17:03:35 UTC-3, John H wrote:
Very good. Most of the advice you've received was free anyway, so why pay attention to it? Hope your new trim gauge helps you run much more efficiently. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Don't feel so put off, Johnny. I listened to all the advice, weighed the options and made a decision. Blame it on Gfre... He reminded me of one of the main considerations.. that is boating in shallow waters where the motor is tiled up to avoid striking the propeller while slowly motoring along. I've come out of those areas a number of times and forget that the motor is slightly tilted up until the bow reaches for the sky. |
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On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 13:46:56 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Friday, 2 August 2013 17:03:35 UTC-3, John H wrote: Very good. Most of the advice you've received was free anyway, so why pay attention to it? Hope your new trim gauge helps you run much more efficiently. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Don't feel so put off, Johnny. I listened to all the advice, weighed the options and made a decision. Blame it on Gfre... He reminded me of one of the main considerations.. that is boating in shallow waters where the motor is tiled up to avoid striking the propeller while slowly motoring along. I've come out of those areas a number of times and forget that the motor is slightly tilted up until the bow reaches for the sky. You forget to check the motor, but you'll remember to check your trim gauge. Good. Oh, and I'm not the least put off. I simply complimented you and wished you well. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 8/2/2013 12:37 PM, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:30:13 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42:15 AM UTC-5, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. Hope you had fun, Don. Had the mechanic look at my Mercury 60 Big Foot yesterday and discovered that in addition to the wiring for a trim gauge being present in the wiring harness, my motor had the sender already installed (from the Chinese factory?). Since that reduced the cost to the gauge and an hours labour, I told him to go ahead and order a trim gauge that would match the 4 other gauges already installed in my console. He'll call me when it comes in and we'll make an appointment for the install. I'll have one spot left for a 2" gauge after this ... guess I should have asked him what would have been a useful instrument to add. I'm thinking maybe an oil pressure gauge...or an engine temperature gauge. I'd like to check the engine impeller status while underway without having to turn all the way around, but I suppose a small mirror could handle that. Get a pitch and roll indicator to compliment your trim indicator. |
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On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:16:22 -0400, Hank©
wrote: On 8/2/2013 12:37 PM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:30:13 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42:15 AM UTC-5, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. Hope you had fun, Don. Had the mechanic look at my Mercury 60 Big Foot yesterday and discovered that in addition to the wiring for a trim gauge being present in the wiring harness, my motor had the sender already installed (from the Chinese factory?). Since that reduced the cost to the gauge and an hours labour, I told him to go ahead and order a trim gauge that would match the 4 other gauges already installed in my console. He'll call me when it comes in and we'll make an appointment for the install. I'll have one spot left for a 2" gauge after this ... guess I should have asked him what would have been a useful instrument to add. I'm thinking maybe an oil pressure gauge...or an engine temperature gauge. I'd like to check the engine impeller status while underway without having to turn all the way around, but I suppose a small mirror could handle that. Get a pitch and roll indicator to compliment your trim indicator. === What about an altimeter? It's good to know what the sea level is. |
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On 8/2/2013 8:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:16:22 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 8/2/2013 12:37 PM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:30:13 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42:15 AM UTC-5, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. Hope you had fun, Don. Had the mechanic look at my Mercury 60 Big Foot yesterday and discovered that in addition to the wiring for a trim gauge being present in the wiring harness, my motor had the sender already installed (from the Chinese factory?). Since that reduced the cost to the gauge and an hours labour, I told him to go ahead and order a trim gauge that would match the 4 other gauges already installed in my console. He'll call me when it comes in and we'll make an appointment for the install. I'll have one spot left for a 2" gauge after this ... guess I should have asked him what would have been a useful instrument to add. I'm thinking maybe an oil pressure gauge...or an engine temperature gauge. I'd like to check the engine impeller status while underway without having to turn all the way around, but I suppose a small mirror could handle that. Get a pitch and roll indicator to compliment your trim indicator. === What about an altimeter? It's good to know what the sea level is. Absolutely. And a backup camera. |
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On 8/2/13 8:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:16:22 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 8/2/2013 12:37 PM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:30:13 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42:15 AM UTC-5, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. Hope you had fun, Don. Had the mechanic look at my Mercury 60 Big Foot yesterday and discovered that in addition to the wiring for a trim gauge being present in the wiring harness, my motor had the sender already installed (from the Chinese factory?). Since that reduced the cost to the gauge and an hours labour, I told him to go ahead and order a trim gauge that would match the 4 other gauges already installed in my console. He'll call me when it comes in and we'll make an appointment for the install. I'll have one spot left for a 2" gauge after this ... guess I should have asked him what would have been a useful instrument to add. I'm thinking maybe an oil pressure gauge...or an engine temperature gauge. I'd like to check the engine impeller status while underway without having to turn all the way around, but I suppose a small mirror could handle that. Get a pitch and roll indicator to compliment your trim indicator. === What about an altimeter? It's good to know what the sea level is. The Asshole Brothers, W'hine and FlaJim, always encouraging boating posts. |
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On Friday, 2 August 2013 22:25:06 UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 8/2/2013 8:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:16:22 -0400, Hank� wrote: On 8/2/2013 12:37 PM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:30:13 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42:15 AM UTC-5, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. Hope you had fun, Don. Had the mechanic look at my Mercury 60 Big Foot yesterday and discovered that in addition to the wiring for a trim gauge being present in the wiring harness, my motor had the sender already installed (from the Chinese factory?). Since that reduced the cost to the gauge and an hours labour, I told him to go ahead and order a trim gauge that would match the 4 other gauges already installed in my console. He'll call me when it comes in and we'll make an appointment for the install. I'll have one spot left for a 2" gauge after this ... guess I should have asked him what would have been a useful instrument to add. I'm thinking maybe an oil pressure gauge...or an engine temperature gauge. I'd like to check the engine impeller status while underway without having to turn all the way around, but I suppose a small mirror could handle that. Get a pitch and roll indicator to compliment your trim indicator. === What about an altimeter? It's good to know what the sea level is. Absolutely. And a backup camera. Y'all southern boys sure do need a lot before proceeding away from the dock.. You should come up here and we'll teach you to do more with much less. |
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On Friday, 2 August 2013 22:28:47 UTC-3, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/2/13 8:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:16:22 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 8/2/2013 12:37 PM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:30:13 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42:15 AM UTC-5, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. Hope you had fun, Don. Had the mechanic look at my Mercury 60 Big Foot yesterday and discovered that in addition to the wiring for a trim gauge being present in the wiring harness, my motor had the sender already installed (from the Chinese factory?). Since that reduced the cost to the gauge and an hours labour, I told him to go ahead and order a trim gauge that would match the 4 other gauges already installed in my console. He'll call me when it comes in and we'll make an appointment for the install. I'll have one spot left for a 2" gauge after this ... guess I should have asked him what would have been a useful instrument to add. I'm thinking maybe an oil pressure gauge...or an engine temperature gauge. I'd like to check the engine impeller status while underway without having to turn all the way around, but I suppose a small mirror could handle that. Get a pitch and roll indicator to compliment your trim indicator. === What about an altimeter? It's good to know what the sea level is. The Asshole Brothers, W'hine and FlaJim, always encouraging boating posts.. At least this lame attempt at humour isn't as bad as their usual offerings. |
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On 8/2/2013 9:34 PM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 2 August 2013 22:25:06 UTC-3, Hank© wrote: On 8/2/2013 8:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:16:22 -0400, Hank� wrote: On 8/2/2013 12:37 PM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:30:13 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42:15 AM UTC-5, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. Hope you had fun, Don. Had the mechanic look at my Mercury 60 Big Foot yesterday and discovered that in addition to the wiring for a trim gauge being present in the wiring harness, my motor had the sender already installed (from the Chinese factory?). Since that reduced the cost to the gauge and an hours labour, I told him to go ahead and order a trim gauge that would match the 4 other gauges already installed in my console. He'll call me when it comes in and we'll make an appointment for the install. I'll have one spot left for a 2" gauge after this ... guess I should have asked him what would have been a useful instrument to add. I'm thinking maybe an oil pressure gauge...or an engine temperature gauge. I'd like to check the engine impeller status while underway without having to turn all the way around, but I suppose a small mirror could handle that. Get a pitch and roll indicator to compliment your trim indicator. === What about an altimeter? It's good to know what the sea level is. Absolutely. And a backup camera. Y'all southern boys sure do need a lot before proceeding away from the dock.. You should come up here and we'll teach you to do more with much less. Nah that won't be necessary. Just show us your equipment inventory and we'll review it. |
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On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:25:06 -0400, Hank© wrote:
On 8/2/2013 8:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:16:22 -0400, Hank© wrote: On 8/2/2013 12:37 PM, True North wrote: On Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:30:13 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42:15 AM UTC-5, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. Hope you had fun, Don. Had the mechanic look at my Mercury 60 Big Foot yesterday and discovered that in addition to the wiring for a trim gauge being present in the wiring harness, my motor had the sender already installed (from the Chinese factory?). Since that reduced the cost to the gauge and an hours labour, I told him to go ahead and order a trim gauge that would match the 4 other gauges already installed in my console. He'll call me when it comes in and we'll make an appointment for the install. I'll have one spot left for a 2" gauge after this ... guess I should have asked him what would have been a useful instrument to add. I'm thinking maybe an oil pressure gauge...or an engine temperature gauge. I'd like to check the engine impeller status while underway without having to turn all the way around, but I suppose a small mirror could handle that. Get a pitch and roll indicator to compliment your trim indicator. === What about an altimeter? It's good to know what the sea level is. Absolutely. And a backup camera. If it were properly placed, one could check one's trim quite easily. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:48:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
who thinks that unless you have a "beeeeeg" boat, you should stay out of his ocean. === You're size envy is showing again. You should try fishing with a bigger pole. |
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On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:21:20 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:48:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: who thinks that unless you have a "beeeeeg" boat, you should stay out of his ocean. === You're size envy is showing again. You should try fishing with a bigger pole. Didn't he say he had a 'big' dual diesel engine trawler now? John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:31:28 -0400, John H
wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:21:20 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:48:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: who thinks that unless you have a "beeeeeg" boat, you should stay out of his ocean. === You're size envy is showing again. You should try fishing with a bigger pole. Didn't he say he had a 'big' dual diesel engine trawler now? ======== Do you believe that? I don't. If he had one he'd be spending more time on it instead of drooling on his keyboard. |
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On 8/3/13 1:53 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:31:28 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:21:20 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:48:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: who thinks that unless you have a "beeeeeg" boat, you should stay out of his ocean. === You're size envy is showing again. You should try fishing with a bigger pole. Didn't he say he had a 'big' dual diesel engine trawler now? ======== Do you believe that? I don't. If he had one he'd be spending more time on it instead of drooling on his keyboard. In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. |
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On 8/3/2013 2:07 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/3/13 1:53 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:31:28 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:21:20 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:48:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: who thinks that unless you have a "beeeeeg" boat, you should stay out of his ocean. === You're size envy is showing again. You should try fishing with a bigger pole. Didn't he say he had a 'big' dual diesel engine trawler now? ======== Do you believe that? I don't. If he had one he'd be spending more time on it instead of drooling on his keyboard. In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. Don't you remember YOU telling us what the maximum size boat that was appropriate for our use. You also went on to say what horsepower we needed. Anything in excess of your recommendations was labeled, oh I forget, but definitely something obscene. As it turns out, your boat at the time, happened to be right at the high end. |
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On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 13:53:40 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:31:28 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:21:20 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:48:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: who thinks that unless you have a "beeeeeg" boat, you should stay out of his ocean. === You're size envy is showing again. You should try fishing with a bigger pole. Didn't he say he had a 'big' dual diesel engine trawler now? ======== Do you believe that? I don't. If he had one he'd be spending more time on it instead of drooling on his keyboard. Believe a story like that? No. That's right up there with going around the Horn, twice. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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HussyfanOn Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:26:50 -0400, Hank© wrote:
On 8/3/2013 2:07 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 8/3/13 1:53 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:31:28 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 12:21:20 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:48:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: who thinks that unless you have a "beeeeeg" boat, you should stay out of his ocean. === You're size envy is showing again. You should try fishing with a bigger pole. Didn't he say he had a 'big' dual diesel engine trawler now? ======== Do you believe that? I don't. If he had one he'd be spending more time on it instead of drooling on his keyboard. In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. Don't you remember YOU telling us what the maximum size boat that was appropriate for our use. You also went on to say what horsepower we needed. Anything in excess of your recommendations was labeled, oh I forget, but definitely something obscene. As it turns out, your boat at the time, happened to be right at the high end. Whoops. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:07:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. I imagine Wayne has more blue water time than anyone else here, including the navy guys. ------------------------------- I'd agree with that. My nine years in the Navy resulted in actually being "at sea" for probably a total of about 16-18 months total. |
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On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:43:21 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:07:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. I imagine Wayne has more blue water time than anyone else here, including the navy guys. ------------------------------- I'd agree with that. My nine years in the Navy resulted in actually being "at sea" for probably a total of about 16-18 months total. === Rough calculations show something like 800 days actually underway since we bought the trawler 9 years ago. Not all of that was blue water of course, maybe half. In terms of actual time onboard, probably about 40 months. I've also done a fair amount of blue water sailing over the years, enough to have a sailing endorsement on my USCG ticket. |
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On 8/3/13 4:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:43:21 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:07:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. I imagine Wayne has more blue water time than anyone else here, including the navy guys. ------------------------------- I'd agree with that. My nine years in the Navy resulted in actually being "at sea" for probably a total of about 16-18 months total. === Rough calculations show something like 800 days actually underway since we bought the trawler 9 years ago. Not all of that was blue water of course, maybe half. In terms of actual time onboard, probably about 40 months. I've also done a fair amount of blue water sailing over the years, enough to have a sailing endorsement on my USCG ticket. I spent at least 45 days each summer between the ages of five and fifteen out on long island sound on various rowboats, runabouts and sailboats. That's 450 days, and when I was in my mid-20's I took up boating again, in various places, including the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. When I was 12, I frequently transited Long Island Sound from Milford to Port Jeff on a 13' outboard boat, and the sound can get pretty choppy. I wouldn't presume to tell someone, as you did, that his 16' boat had no business going out on a bay which with he was familiar. You apparently have no recent experience on small boats, and none at all in the waters to which Don was referring. I used to take my 18' fishing boat 20 miles out into the Atlantic when we lived in NE Florida. There were smaller boats out there, too. |
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On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:48:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 8/3/13 4:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:43:21 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:07:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. I imagine Wayne has more blue water time than anyone else here, including the navy guys. ------------------------------- I'd agree with that. My nine years in the Navy resulted in actually being "at sea" for probably a total of about 16-18 months total. === Rough calculations show something like 800 days actually underway since we bought the trawler 9 years ago. Not all of that was blue water of course, maybe half. In terms of actual time onboard, probably about 40 months. I've also done a fair amount of blue water sailing over the years, enough to have a sailing endorsement on my USCG ticket. I spent at least 45 days each summer between the ages of five and fifteen out on long island sound on various rowboats, runabouts and sailboats. That's 450 days, and when I was in my mid-20's I took up boating again, in various places, including the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. When I was 12, I frequently transited Long Island Sound from Milford to Port Jeff on a 13' outboard boat, and the sound can get pretty choppy. I wouldn't presume to tell someone, as you did, that his 16' boat had no business going out on a bay which with he was familiar. You apparently have no recent experience on small boats, and none at all in the waters to which Don was referring. I used to take my 18' fishing boat 20 miles out into the Atlantic when we lived in NE Florida. There were smaller boats out there, too. Not even a nuclear submariner on the blue team would say he had more days at sea than you, Harry. You far surpass everyone at everything - worthwhile or not. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 8/3/2013 4:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:43:21 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:07:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. I imagine Wayne has more blue water time than anyone else here, including the navy guys. ------------------------------- I'd agree with that. My nine years in the Navy resulted in actually being "at sea" for probably a total of about 16-18 months total. === Rough calculations show something like 800 days actually underway since we bought the trawler 9 years ago. Not all of that was blue water of course, maybe half. In terms of actual time onboard, probably about 40 months. I've also done a fair amount of blue water sailing over the years, enough to have a sailing endorsement on my USCG ticket. Over 2 years underway. I doubt if anyone hear could come close unless they counted military at sea time. |
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On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:48:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
I wouldn't presume to tell someone, as you did, that his 16' boat had no business going out on a bay which with he was familiar. Please show me where I said that. It didn't happen. You apparently have no recent experience on small boats Only about 2 or 300 miles or so over the last 6 months in a 12 ft inflatable dinghy, a few times in 6 to 8 ft seas. and none at all in the waters to which Don was referring. I've done a lot of boating in Maine, very similar. I used to take my 18' fishing boat 20 miles out into the Atlantic when we lived in NE Florida. There were smaller boats out there, too. And there's another one born every minute. Some of those boats don't come back, happens every month or so this time of year. PS, last time I looked Don was a big boy who can speak for himself. |
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On 8/3/2013 4:48 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/3/13 4:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:43:21 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:07:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. I imagine Wayne has more blue water time than anyone else here, including the navy guys. ------------------------------- I'd agree with that. My nine years in the Navy resulted in actually being "at sea" for probably a total of about 16-18 months total. === Rough calculations show something like 800 days actually underway since we bought the trawler 9 years ago. Not all of that was blue water of course, maybe half. In terms of actual time onboard, probably about 40 months. I've also done a fair amount of blue water sailing over the years, enough to have a sailing endorsement on my USCG ticket. I spent at least 45 days each summer between the ages of five and fifteen out on long island sound on various rowboats, runabouts and sailboats. That's 450 days, and when I was in my mid-20's I took up boating again, in various places, including the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. When I was 12, I frequently transited Long Island Sound from Milford to Port Jeff on a 13' outboard boat, and the sound can get pretty choppy. I wouldn't presume to tell someone, as you did, that his 16' boat had no business going out on a bay which with he was familiar. You apparently have no recent experience on small boats, and none at all in the waters to which Don was referring. *I used to take my 18' fishing boat 20 miles out into the Atlantic when we lived in NE Florida*. There were smaller boats out there, too. Weren't you the fool. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:43:21 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 14:07:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: In addition to what size boats people should have before venturing out into the ocean, W'hine now also wants to dictate how people should spend their time. I imagine Wayne has more blue water time than anyone else here, including the navy guys. ------------------------------- I'd agree with that. My nine years in the Navy resulted in actually being "at sea" for probably a total of about 16-18 months total. === Rough calculations show something like 800 days actually underway since we bought the trawler 9 years ago. Not all of that was blue water of course, maybe half. In terms of actual time onboard, probably about 40 months. I've also done a fair amount of blue water sailing over the years, enough to have a sailing endorsement on my USCG ticket. ------------------------------ If I count time either aboard or underway in about 14 years of recreational boating (not Navy time), I'd estimate about the same, somewhere between 35 and 40 months. I used to spend weeks at a time basically living on the boat, even in the middle of winter up here in MA. If I count the months spent aboard a Navy ship while in port, it would be an additional 8-9 months or so in addition to the 16-18 months at sea. We spent far more time underway in the Navy than in port, ranging from 2-3 week training cruises to long term deployments. The longest period I spent at sea without standing on Terra Firma was 54 days. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... I used to take my 18' fishing boat 20 miles out into the Atlantic when we lived in NE Florida. There were smaller boats out there, too. ------------------------- Really depends on the region and time of year. I think you would agree that 20 miles out off the coast of Florida in a small boat during the winter months is foolhardy. A popular afternoon cruise from Scituate, MA across Cape Cod Bay to Provincetown (tip of the cape) is about 22 miles, but a round trip could be taking chances in a small boat. Afternoon thunderstorms can whip the Bay up very quickly. I decided to make the trip one bright sunny day with calm seas in my 16' Boston Whaler. I got about 3/4 of the way there when the thunderstorm cells started rolling in and the waves starting building fast. Turned around and booked it back to Scituate. I've mentioned this other experience before, I think, but it was an eye opener: I took a bunch of guys out cod fishing on the Egg Harbor one nice, warm, humid summer morning. My secret "spot" was 32 miles out of Scituate, very near the main shipping lane going into Boston. We left at dawn and the skies became cloudless blue with clear visibility to the horizon. We got to the "spot" and while the guys got their gear ready to fish, I focused on adjusting the depth/fish finder to zoom in on the bottom, 260 feet below us. I had just finished after seeing the red blobs representing cod, looked up and I could no longer see the bow of the boat. A front had come in, lowering the barometric pressure enough to create extremely dense fog. This all happened in a matter of minutes. It was a slow, careful ride back to Scituate with my brother sitting beside me helping as a lookout and radar screen watcher. The rest of the guys thought it was a hoot. I was very happy to see the Scituate harbor channel markers show up on the radar, because I still couldn't see more than 20 or 30 feet beyond the bow. |
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On 8/3/13 6:00 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... I used to take my 18' fishing boat 20 miles out into the Atlantic when we lived in NE Florida. There were smaller boats out there, too. ------------------------- Really depends on the region and time of year. I think you would agree that 20 miles out off the coast of Florida in a small boat during the winter months is foolhardy. Sure, and so would Don in taking out a small boat in his part of the world in winter. But Donny wasn't doing that...he was boating during the summer in a bay on a 16' boat when the bay was choppy. That may be uncomfortable but it isn't necessarily hazardous, and didn't call for the W'hine of Oz to make the snotty comment he did. |
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On 8/3/13 5:02 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:48:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I wouldn't presume to tell someone, as you did, that his 16' boat had no business going out on a bay which with he was familiar. Please show me where I said that. It didn't happen. You apparently have no recent experience on small boats Only about 2 or 300 miles or so over the last 6 months in a 12 ft inflatable dinghy, a few times in 6 to 8 ft seas. There's no doubt you're the greatest boater ever, oh W'hine of Oz. |
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I feel I know our local conditions good enough to know when to go out into exposed parts of local bays and harbour.
If anything I tend to err on the side of caution. I don't enjoy long slow passages riding up over side of a swell or wave and down the other. Even in a larger boat I tend to get seasick if tossed around too much. Actually, owning a small boat probably limits me from going out in questionable circumstances that I might take a chance on in a 20 footer and regret later. Also saves me from the wife's wrath...she wants it as calm as a mill pond. ;-) |
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On 8/3/2013 6:45 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/3/13 5:02 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 16:48:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I wouldn't presume to tell someone, as you did, that his 16' boat had no business going out on a bay which with he was familiar. Please show me where I said that. It didn't happen. You apparently have no recent experience on small boats Only about 2 or 300 miles or so over the last 6 months in a 12 ft inflatable dinghy, a few times in 6 to 8 ft seas. There's no doubt you're the greatest boater ever, oh W'hine of Oz. It's comments like that that keep us coming back to **** on you. |
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"True North" wrote in message ... I feel I know our local conditions good enough to know when to go out into exposed parts of local bays and harbour. If anything I tend to err on the side of caution. I don't enjoy long slow passages riding up over side of a swell or wave and down the other. Even in a larger boat I tend to get seasick if tossed around too much. Actually, owning a small boat probably limits me from going out in questionable circumstances that I might take a chance on in a 20 footer and regret later. Also saves me from the wife's wrath...she wants it as calm as a mill pond. ;-) ----------------------------- Nothing wrong with that. If I haven't been out on a boat for a while I can get queasy feeling if there's a lot of rolling. I am affected more on large boats than small ones. I don't really get sea sick and eventually it goes away and I am fine for the rest of the season. I'll tell you what works for a lot of people .... ginger snap cookies .... or anything with some ginger in it. |
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On 8/3/2013 4:52 PM, John H wrote:
I used to take my 18' fishing boat 20 miles out into the Atlantic when we lived in NE Florida. There were smaller boats out there, too. OH, what a bunch of bull****.... Not even a nuclear submariner on the blue team would say he had more days at sea than you, Harry. You far surpass everyone at everything - worthwhile or not. John (Gun Nut) H. |
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F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 8/1/13 8:42 AM, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. I think the trim gauge may be a waste of money. If you observer the outboard when you are running on plane and adjust the trim, you can usually tell by sight and sound (and speed abd tach and whether the bow is up or down or whether the boat is running on its optimum plane.} Unless the gauge and sender are cheap, maybe you can do without them. I ALWAYS observer the outboard abd tach, tax cheat. |
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True North wrote:
On Thursday, 1 August 2013 19:30:13 UTC-3, Tim wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:42:15 AM UTC-5, True North wrote: Unlike the majority in here, I'm off to enjoy a beautiful day of boating. First I'll drop into a local Mercury dealer to get an estimate on installing a 'trim gauge' and sender pkg. Then I'll have to decide whether to boat on the largest freshwater lake around here... or explore either of two beautiful ocean bays...St. Margaret's or Mahone Bay. Winds are supposed to be light.. although from the South, so hopefully it won't be too rough for the wife. Hope you had fun, Don. Had the mechanic look at my Mercury 60 Big Foot yesterday and discovered that in addition to the wiring for a trim gauge being present in the wiring harness, my motor had the sender already installed (from the Chinese factory?). Since that reduced the cost to the gauge and an hours labour, I told him to go ahead and order a trim gauge that would match the 4 other gauges already installed in my console. He'll call me when it comes in and we'll make an appointment for the install. I'll have one spot left for a 2" gauge after this ... guess I should have asked him what would have been a useful instrument to add. I'm thinking maybe an oil pressure gauge...or an engine temperature gauge. I'd like to check the engine impeller status while underway without having to turn all the way around, but I suppose a small mirror could handle that. See if they offer a "pee cam" with an iPhone app. |
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True North wrote:
BTW.. when we returned home I got my manual tongue dolly out and was able to push the rig up & over the gutter/driveway hump by myself. No need to put the wife in the way of the dollies wheels if she stumbled. That's ridiculous! |
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True North wrote:
On Friday, 2 August 2013 17:03:35 UTC-3, John H wrote: Very good. Most of the advice you've received was free anyway, so why pay attention to it? Hope your new trim gauge helps you run much more efficiently. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Don't feel so put off, Johnny. I listened to all the advice, weighed the options and made a decision. Blame it on Gfre... He reminded me of one of the main considerations.. that is boating in shallow waters where the motor is tiled up to avoid striking the propeller while slowly motoring along. I've come out of those areas a number of times and forget that the motor is slightly tilted up until the bow reaches for the sky. Which is it, spellchecker? "tiled" or "tilted"? |
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True North wrote:
On Friday, 2 August 2013 17:03:35 UTC-3, John H wrote: Very good. Most of the advice you've received was free anyway, so why pay attention to it? Hope your new trim gauge helps you run much more efficiently. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Don't feel so put off, Johnny. I listened to all the advice, weighed the options and made a decision. Blame it on Gfre... He reminded me of one of the main considerations.. that is boating in shallow waters where the motor is tiled up to avoid striking the propeller while slowly motoring along. I've come out of those areas a number of times and forget that the motor is slightly tilted up until the bow reaches for the sky. In that case, you are a moron or deaf. |
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