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Eisboch[_9_] July 21st 13 07:40 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 
Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using
the Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of
the state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that
put into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to generate
a "not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the public
on the facts.






F.O.A.D. July 21st 13 07:50 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 
On 7/21/13 1:40 PM, Eisboch wrote:
Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using the
Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of the
state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that put
into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to generate a
"not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the public on
the facts.






The undercurrent of Stand Your Ground permeated everything related to
the case and the trial and its outcome.

Hank©[_3_] July 21st 13 07:57 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 
On 7/21/2013 1:50 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/21/13 1:40 PM, Eisboch wrote:
Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using the
Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of the
state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that put
into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to generate a
"not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the public on
the facts.






The undercurrent of Stand Your Ground permeated everything related to
the case and the trial and its outcome.


That's just plain ignorant.

Eisboch[_9_] July 21st 13 08:03 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/21/13 1:40 PM, Eisboch wrote:
Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your
Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media
attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using
the
Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based
on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of
the
state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that put
into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to
cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to
generate a
"not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the
public on
the facts.






The undercurrent of Stand Your Ground permeated everything related to
the case and the trial and its outcome.

------------------------------------------

Everyone except the jury who found appropriately and according to the
court instructions.



F.O.A.D. July 21st 13 08:20 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 
On 7/21/13 2:03 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/21/13 1:40 PM, Eisboch wrote:
Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using the
Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of the
state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that put
into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to generate a
"not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the public on
the facts.






The undercurrent of Stand Your Ground permeated everything related to
the case and the trial and its outcome.

------------------------------------------

Everyone except the jury who found appropriately and according to the
court instructions.



Had the five white women on the jury been black, the outcome probably
would have been different. Sanford has long been a racist town, and
sooner or later the names of the jurors will come out.

Hank©[_3_] July 21st 13 08:51 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 
On 7/21/2013 2:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/21/13 2:03 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 7/21/13 1:40 PM, Eisboch wrote:
Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using the
Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of the
state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that put
into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to generate a
"not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the public on
the facts.






The undercurrent of Stand Your Ground permeated everything related to
the case and the trial and its outcome.

------------------------------------------

Everyone except the jury who found appropriately and according to the
court instructions.



Had the five white women on the jury been black, the outcome probably
would have been different. Sanford has long been a racist town, and
sooner or later the names of the jurors will come out.


"Why are you so racist and bigoted", I say, while never expecting a
truthful answer.

F.O.A.D. July 22nd 13 12:28 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 
On 7/22/13 1:12 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 13:40:45 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using
the Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of
the state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that
put into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to generate
a "not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the public
on the facts.


The strange thing is black defendants have availed themselves of SYG
defenses at a higher rate than white people.

Holder, Sharpton and the rest seem to be ignorant of or simply ignore
that fact.



My guess is that "Holder, Sharpton and the rest" believe the Stand Your
Ground laws suck, no matter who is availing themselves of them. They
seem to be little more than laws that allow you to settle disputes on
the street with a gun.

"He slapped me, I was scared, so I shot him."

The SYG laws encourage bad behavior on the part of gunslingers.

BAR[_2_] July 22nd 13 01:01 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 
In article , says...

On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 13:40:45 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using
the Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of
the state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that
put into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to generate
a "not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the public
on the facts.


The strange thing is black defendants have availed themselves of SYG
defenses at a higher rate than white people.

Holder, Sharpton and the rest seem to be ignorant of or simply ignore
that fact.


It is all about gun control. Whatever advances the the actual control of guns in the USA is
what they seek. They could care less about who benefits from what, in the end the seek a
society that compliant with government edicts. Guns in the hands of ordinary people is a
challenge to their control.

Meyer[_2_] July 22nd 13 01:25 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 
On 7/22/2013 6:28 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/22/13 1:12 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 13:40:45 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using
the Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of
the state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that
put into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to generate
a "not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the public
on the facts.


The strange thing is black defendants have availed themselves of SYG
defenses at a higher rate than white people.

Holder, Sharpton and the rest seem to be ignorant of or simply ignore
that fact.



My guess is that "Holder, Sharpton and the rest" believe the Stand Your
Ground laws suck, no matter who is availing themselves of them. They
seem to be little more than laws that allow you to settle disputes on
the street with a gun.

"He slapped me, I was scared, so I shot him."

The SYG laws encourage bad behavior on the part of gunslingers.


Well Hopalong, what discourages bad behavior on the part of gunslingers?
And more importantly, what are YOU doing about it, besides running your
mouth?
You might pass along to your pals in washingtoon, that gun control will
do diddley squat to take guns out of the hands of your fellow gunslingers.

iBoaterer[_3_] July 22nd 13 02:16 PM

Mass Media Confusion
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 13:40:45 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Although I agree with those who say we don't need "Stand Your Ground"
statutes outside of your home, I don't understand the media attention
and activist groups (led by people like Al Sharpton) who are using
the Zimmerman trial to promote the elimination of SYG.

Zimmerman's defense was *not* based on SYG grounds. It was based on
self-defense. This was a purposeful and strategic decision by his
defense attorneys.

The reason he was acquitted by the jury was due to the stupidity of
the state's prosecution team of attorneys. *They* are the ones that
put into evidence all of Zimmerman's accounts of the events, thereby
allowing de facto testimony by Zimmerman without the ability to cross
examine him. The defense attorneys made good use of this blunder by
calling other witnesses to testify that gave credence to Zimmerman's
account of the events, raising sufficient reasonable doubt to generate
a "not guilty" verdict.

Typical of any unpopular decision or circumstance (to them) , the
liberal media and activist groups are totally misinforming the public
on the facts.


The strange thing is black defendants have availed themselves of SYG
defenses at a higher rate than white people.


Wow, you are using FOX's tactics to a tee!!! You make it sound like that
is the case everywhere, and it's only in Florida.

Holder, Sharpton and the rest seem to be ignorant of or simply ignore
that fact.


See above regarding ignorance.



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