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not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George" either... but it's obviously what they believed... |
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On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:09:39 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George" either... but it's obviously what they believed... The presumption of innocence was upheld, as it should have been. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George" either... but it's obviously what they believed... So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right? Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk? John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:40:10 AM UTC-5, wrote:
So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right? As innocent as Bill Clinton LOL! |
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On 7/14/2013 12:27 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George" either... but it's obviously what they believed... So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right? Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk? John (Gun Nut) H. My point was directed at folks who are saying "they did not find him *innocent*, just not guilty" are some of the same folks who demanded we accept the OJ verdict twenty some odd years ago... |
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On 7/14/13 1:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/14/2013 12:27 PM, John H wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George" either... but it's obviously what they believed... So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right? Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk? John (Gun Nut) H. My point was directed at folks who are saying "they did not find him *innocent*, just not guilty" are some of the same folks who demanded we accept the OJ verdict twenty some odd years ago... Accepting the verdict and believing justice was done are not the same thing. I was at a conference in Chicago, attending regional meetings of a mostly black labor union, when the OJ verdict was announced in the murder trial. No one at our lunch table, and I was the only "whitey" there, thought OJ should have walked. He was found not guilty but justice was not done. |
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On 7/14/13 1:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 7/14/2013 12:27 PM, John H wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George" either... but it's obviously what they believed... So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right? Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk? John (Gun Nut) H. My point was directed at folks who are saying "they did not find him *innocent*, just not guilty" are some of the same folks who demanded we accept the OJ verdict twenty some odd years ago... Accepting the verdict and believing justice was done are not the same thing. I was at a conference in Chicago, attending regional meetings of a mostly black labor union, when the OJ verdict was announced in the murder trial. No one at our lunch table, and I was the only "whitey" there, thought OJ should have walked. He was found not guilty but justice was not done. Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict: http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater- truths/2131361 |
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On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:43:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George" either... but it's obviously what they believed... So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right? Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk? John (Gun Nut) H. WHOOOOOOOSH!!!! Man, things go right over your head easily don't they? Irrelevant. I'm not on trial. John (Gun Nut) H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict: http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater- truths/2131361 That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery. The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out there. There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious activity. We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with (along with a burglary tool). What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the .22 he was trying to sell? My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he had and was trying to sell, "go away". Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute several felonies. The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in real life... A gangster, and a thug. |
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says... On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:43:32 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:45:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... I know, I know, "the jury didn't say he was innocent, only said he was not guilty" but you know what they meant. At the same time the jury never said "Treyvon was on top beating the life out of George" either... but it's obviously what they believed... So in your eyes, OJ is completely innocent too, right? Was OJ being attacked and his head smacked against the sidewalk? John (Gun Nut) H. WHOOOOOOOSH!!!! Man, things go right over your head easily don't they? Irrelevant. I'm not on trial. John (Gun Nut) H. WHOOOOSH again....... |
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says... On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict: http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater- truths/2131361 That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery. The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out there. There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious activity. We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with (along with a burglary tool). What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the .22 he was trying to sell? My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he had and was trying to sell, "go away". Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute several felonies. The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in real life... A gangster, and a thug. Cite? |
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"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict: http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater- truths/2131361 That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery. The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out there. There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious activity. We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with (along with a burglary tool). What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the .22 he was trying to sell? My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he had and was trying to sell, "go away". Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute several felonies. The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in real life... A gangster, and a thug. Cite? That information is easily available at your fingertips from any number of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal TV cable channels. Just google "Ben Kruidbos". |
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On 7/15/13 8:23 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict: http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater- truths/2131361 That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery. The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out there. There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious activity. We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with (along with a burglary tool). What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the .22 he was trying to sell? My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he had and was trying to sell, "go away". Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute several felonies. The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in real life... A gangster, and a thug. Cite? That information is easily available at your fingertips from any number of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal TV cable channels. Just google "Ben Kruidbos". The guy who says there was a photo of a marijuana plant and a hand holding a gun on Martin's cell phone? Hot stuff. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/15/13 8:23 AM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict: http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater- truths/2131361 That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery. The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out there. There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious activity. We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with (along with a burglary tool). What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the .22 he was trying to sell? My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he had and was trying to sell, "go away". Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute several felonies. The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in real life... A gangster, and a thug. Cite? That information is easily available at your fingertips from any number of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal TV cable channels. Just google "Ben Kruidbos". The guy who says there was a photo of a marijuana plant and a hand holding a gun on Martin's cell phone? Hot stuff. ----------------------------------------------------- According to Kruidbos, there was a lot more found. Over 1,000 items (photos and text messages) that were "deleted" were able to be retrieved. |
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"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/15/13 8:23 AM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 7/14/2013 2:29 PM, wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 14:03:55 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Yes, here is a very good take on the Zimmerman verdict: http://www.tampabay.com/news/verdict...-mask-greater- truths/2131361 That all assumes Travonn was "innocent" yet he seems to have a history of burglary, assault, gun/drug dealing and general thuggery. The judge quashed all of this before the trial but it is still out there. There is no reason to believe "walking slowly in the rain looking INTO cars", as Zimmerman reported in his police call, is not suspicious activity. We are still waiting to see what the Miami police found when they tried to find the owners of the jewelry Trayvonn was caught with (along with a burglary tool). What was the disposition of that .40 cal S&W pistol Travonn was flaunting on the internet? Did Mom throw it in the bay? Do the parents still have it? How did he get that? Was it stolen too? How about the .22 he was trying to sell? My bet is that the lawyers made all of that, along with the dope he had and was trying to sell, "go away". Will the state try to pursue any of that? The guns alone constitute several felonies. The special prosecutor is gonna' be frog hopped soon. Seems a bunch of evidence just came out yesterday that was deliberately hidden from the defense through the whole trial... These pics and vids probably say a lot as to why Trayvon's parents are so quiet. If they do go to civil litigation, I think Martin will get ripped to pieces for what he was in real life... A gangster, and a thug. Cite? That information is easily available at your fingertips from any number of sources. You just won't hear much about it on the liberal TV cable channels. Just google "Ben Kruidbos". The guy who says there was a photo of a marijuana plant and a hand holding a gun on Martin's cell phone? Hot stuff. ----------------------------------------------------- According to Kruidbos, there was a lot more found. Over 1,000 items (photos and text messages) that were "deleted" were able to be retrieved. Doesn't necessarily mean a thing. On another note so you remember mike lender from amity? He became a veterinarian. He was the grandson of the founder of lenders bagels died last week pancreatic cancer. 😟 |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote: According to Kruidbos, there was a lot more found. Over 1,000 items (photos and text messages) that were "deleted" were able to be retrieved. Doesn't necessarily mean a thing. On another note so you remember mike lender from amity? He became a veterinarian. He was the grandson of the founder of lenders bagels died last week pancreatic cancer. 😟 ------------------------------------- Name seems familiar but my "remember" isn't what it used to be. Might be that I just recognize the brand name. Cancer sucks. Too many friends and former acquaintances have been affected. Even Mrs.E., but she has done very well as a survivor. |
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"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... Ben Kruidbos This one? http://tinyurl.com/ot6anyj ------------------------------------------------- One of many. There's also an interview (after he was fired) in which he comments on the number of files that were deleted (approximately 1000). They apparently were accessible when the phone was taken into state custody but were mysteriously deleted later. That's what all the fuss is about. |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:29:04 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Ben Kruidbos This one? http://tinyurl.com/ot6anyj Fired for doing the right thing, sounds right for this particular prosecutor. There should be sanctions and perhaps a few heads rolling in that DA's office. They never had a case and resorted to illegal activities to make it look like they did. Our local DA said he never thought that case should proceed and was not surprised at all with the verdict. Bear in mind the DA's office refused to prosecute based on the evidence they had that night and that is why Zimmerman was sent home. It wasn't until this became a political witch hunt that the case went forward. Outright lies by the media fed the frenzy. Weeks after they had the pictures of Zimmerman's injuries Chris Matthews was still saying he was not injured at all. ------------------------------------------------------------ When all the dust settles it will become clear that this unfortunate event evolve into another attempt at changing gun laws. The pro-gun control groups are already past civil and/or federal suits and want another "conversation" about gun laws in general. I am getting tired of hearing that expression, "we need to have a conversation". It's overused and is meaningless. Either get your ass in gear and propose something or shut up and go home. |
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