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On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:15:25 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/3/13 6:07 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:03:57 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. I am fascinated with the trial. What I am noticing big time is the presumption of guilt by some of the liberal media and their possible attempts to keep information that may conflict with their attitudes away from viewers. I confess, I haven't watched Fox News to see what their slant is, if any. Maybe I'll do that for a while and see if their coverage is equally biased the other way. There's also a lot of presumption of innocent by the conservatives, too. ----------------------------------------------------- You are *supposed* to be presumed innocent until found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial. The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter. I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty. See what I mean? |
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On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:18:03 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/3/13 6:09 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:00:36 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 7/2/13 4:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... This trial has gotten SO political and it's a damned shame. No matter what the outcome, there is going to be a large percentage of people who aren't happy with it. -------------------------------------- Similar but different from the O.J. Simpson trial. That one had external forces applying influence but it wasn't necessarily racial or political. I'm not really sure WHAT that was! OJ's lawyers totally overwhelmed the state's prosecutors, and the facts that the defense was able to show that some evidence was mishandled, that at least one of the cops intimately involved in the case was an avowed racist and engaged in shenanigans with some of the evidence and then "took the fifth" about it, and a number of other factors resulted in a not guilty verdict. If Zimmerman walks, it won't be because he stalked a young man, instigated a fight and, when it wasn't going his way, whipped out his pistol and shot and killed the young man. It'll be because the trial took place in a gun-happy state. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the word 'go'. No need for a trial." My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of their son. Of course it does, Harry. I don't have an opinion. I'm letting the courts decide and that's it. Why can't everybody else? |
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On 7/3/2013 6:34 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Had Zimmerman not started the fight, Martin and his can of tea and bag of skittles would have made it safely to where he was visiting or staying with his dad. Assuming he didn't cut his hand while in the act of smash and grab. Remember his interest in the contents of cars in the neighborhood? |
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On 7/3/2013 7:06 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:31 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter. I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty. ------------------------------------- Wow. So much for giving consideration to any evidence and law that might indicate otherwise. Redneckville? 24 states have Stand Your Ground statutes. That's one shy of half the country. Al Sharpton has schooled you well, it seems. It is unfortunate that so-called "Stand Your Ground" laws allow a gun-toter to stalk an unarmed person, confront that person, precipitate an argument, and then shoot and kill that person. That is precisely what Zimmerman did, eh. ------------------------------------------- The "Stand Your Ground" laws in this country specifically forbid any action as you have described. What actually happened in the Zimmerman case will be determined by a jury after giving consideration to all the evidence presented in the trial. Until Trev pushed Zimm to the ground and started wailing on him, No crime had been committed. Why don't we proceed from that point in time. Forget what happened prior. |
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On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:24:25 AM UTC-5, Eisboch wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial. " ------------------------------------ Tim, your attributes are off. Harry didn't say that. I did. That's one thing about Google Groups and you and Harry using the same fake email address. Sometimes it can't distinguish who is who. According to Google Groups Iresoponded to F.O.A.D. |
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On 7/3/2013 7:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I have little confidence in southern, white juries deliberating on whether a white man killed a black man, but we shall see. That point isn't to be deliberated. Why so biased and racist, Harry? |
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On 7/3/2013 7:22 AM, Eisboch wrote:
But, I understand your point even though I don't agree with your all inclusive, predetermined views on the subject. His views are purely racist. He gives nothing else consideration. |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:18:03 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of their son. Of course it does, Harry. I don't have an opinion. I'm letting the courts decide and that's it. Why can't everybody else? ------------------------------------------------- You have to remember Tim, Harry has a problem with court decisions (even by the Supreme Court of the United States) unless the decision happens to go his way. Don't you remember Gore versus Bush? Some people just can't forget it, including Harry. But, when an important issue like same sex marriage with full federal benefits (for 1.7 percent of the population) is decided, many people including Harry applaud. So, you see, it all depends what the subject is. |
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On 7/3/2013 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I have no requirement that you agree with my preconceived notions! You're a better than reasonable guy, even when you are completely wrong (from my point of view). That was a hard read. Was it proper English? |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:24:25 AM UTC-5, Eisboch wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial. " ------------------------------------ Tim, your attributes are off. Harry didn't say that. I did. That's one thing about Google Groups and you and Harry using the same fake email address. Sometimes it can't distinguish who is who. According to Google Groups Iresoponded to F.O.A.D. ------------------------------ Gotcha. I'll change mine. |
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On 7/3/2013 7:27 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 6:18 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: I don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the SHOOTING of their son. Justice for them is what Harry? An eye for an eye? Maybe the state of Florida got justice for the parents not raising their kid properly.... |
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On 7/3/2013 7:29 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 6:21 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial." I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin. So what if Trey grabbed Zimm's gun and killed Zimm like he promised to do? How would you call that scenario? That would be fine with Al Sharpton and harry... Hell, even if Martin had killed Zimm with the stolen gun he was trying to buy earlier, it would have been ok with the racists here.... |
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On 7/3/2013 7:36 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 6:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 7/3/13 6:56 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial." I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin. -------------------------------------------- May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to "resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program. As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge. An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either. If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension when this whole affair occurred. I'm sorry...when was Martin arrested or served with a restraining order? When was Zimm suspended from school on several occasions for drug possession among other things. Introducing Trev's and Zimm's history into the record might tip the scales in favor of Zimm. Maybe not. I think it would be great if their past were both included... Martin was a thug, he was up to no good, he got shot.... period. |
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On 7/3/2013 7:49 AM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 5:24:25 AM UTC-5, Eisboch wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial. " ------------------------------------ Tim, your attributes are off. Harry didn't say that. I did. That's one thing about Google Groups and you and Harry using the same fake email address. Sometimes it can't distinguish who is who. According to Google Groups Iresoponded to F.O.A.D. It has been noted several times to both.. I think it's a way to keep both out of kill files.. If you want one read the posts of one partner, you gotta' take the whole democratic team.... :) |
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On 7/3/2013 8:45 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... So now the court is in a 15 minute break. The MSNBC crew are all excitedly discussing this "conflicting expert testimony" and about how the doc said Zimmerman only got hit a couple of times. You gotta be kidding me. http://newsone.com/2001237/trayvon-martin-zimmerman- guilty/ It's nearly all racial/ethnic. Blacks on TV universally cast the worst light on anything about Zimmerman. CNN black "analysts/commentators" do it too. Same with the rabid anti-gun whites. Some whites blindly support Zimmerman because he's white. "Normal" people who rely on the scales of justice being fair and impartial are disturbed that justice is being made a circus by the racists and other nut jobs. Not too much different than the OJ trial. Personally, I think both shooter and victim were punks. I'll go with the trial outcome. But I can't see any way in the world that "depraved mind" can be proved against Zimmerman - unless the jury is incompetent. And that wouldn't surprise me at all. They might find him guilty of manslaughter. I wouldn't, given the evidence I've seen. Seems clearly self-defense from all evidence I've heard. But the selected jury will decide. That's all that matters, barring appeals. Isn't Zimmerman Hispanic with some African-American in his background? This makes him a brown person and not a whitey. The one drop rule plays here. |
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says... In article , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial." I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin. -------------------------------------------- May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to "resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program. As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge. An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either. If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension when this whole affair occurred. I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest. Was it also dishonest for FOX to show pictures of a young suit wearing Zimmerman? |
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On 7/3/2013 9:00 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial." I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin. -------------------------------------------- May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to "resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program. As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge. An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either. If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension when this whole affair occurred. I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest. It was huge in this case. The news made this case by convincing everyone including one witness (who later recanted based on real photos) who initially thought Zimmerman was "on top" but later realized the false representation with a old picture of Martin, made her think "Zimmerman" was the one on top. She later changed her testimony, even in court here.... but by now of course, that picture got Sharpton on top and started all of this... It was the drooling MSM that did this... |
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On 7/3/2013 9:43 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 7/3/2013 9:00 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial." I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin. -------------------------------------------- May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to "resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program. As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge. An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either. If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension when this whole affair occurred. I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest. Most likely It will be Al who plays that card. The parents know he was no angel and I doubt they will say he is/was. If they play it in court, it's all over... |
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says... On 7/3/2013 9:43 AM, Hank© wrote: On 7/3/2013 9:00 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 6:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. "But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial." I think you are quoting someone else there, Tim. I think anyone who has a record of violence and who is outside his or her home and who shoots an unarmed stranger is likely guilty of a serious felony. Zimmerman has a record of violence, he was not in his home, he was advised to leave Mr. Martin to the police, he stalked Martin instead, and when the situation he created got away from him, he shot and killed Martin. -------------------------------------------- May be the case. But to be accurate, the "record of violence" you reference has been determined to be rather minor in nature as it relates to his prior arrest. Basically, he was drinking along with a friend and acted like an idiot, same as most drunks do. The initial charge of "resisting an officer with violence" was reduced to "resisting an officer without violence" and then dismissed when he agreed to enter an alcohol abuse program. As to the domestic violence accusation ... there was never a charge. An ex-girlfriend filed for a restraining order. Zimmerman filed a counter restraining order. Both were granted. That was the end of that. A "domestic violence" charge was never pursued by either. If Zimmerman's past is important then so is Martin's. There are several examples of alleged actions and behavior that diminish the portrayal of him being a upright, law abiding model citizen. The only one that has been officially acknowledged by records and his family is the school suspensions. In fact, he was under a suspension when this whole affair occurred. I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest. Most likely It will be Al who plays that card. The parents know he was no angel and I doubt they will say he is/was. If they play it in court, it's all over... Holy **** you are stupid!!!! |
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On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 09:43:21 -0400, Hank©
wrote: I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest. Most likely It will be Al who plays that card. The parents know he was no angel and I doubt they will say he is/was. === Martin's mother, with some help from Sharpton and a professional publicist, stage managed all of that post shooting news coverage. It was no accident that the media was showing pictures of a happy go lucky little kid. That's what was in their press kit. |
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On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of their son. === It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess is not. |
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On 7/3/13 2:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of their son. === It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess is not. It's Florida, where it is perfectly ok to stalk someone physically, force a confrontation, and when you are called out on it, shoot the person you confronted. |
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On 7/3/2013 2:01 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 09:43:21 -0400, Hank© wrote: I am waiting for the Martin was an angel card to be played. I am also waiting for a picture of Marin that isn't three or four years old being used. The obvious message of using an older picuture portraying Martin as a pre-teen is dishonest. Most likely It will be Al who plays that card. The parents know he was no angel and I doubt they will say he is/was. === Martin's mother, with some help from Sharpton and a professional publicist, stage managed all of that post shooting news coverage. It was no accident that the media was showing pictures of a happy go lucky little kid. That's what was in their press kit. On the outside anyway, the parents have been a class act so far in my opinion... |
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On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:14:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 7/3/13 2:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of their son. === It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess is not. It's Florida, where it is perfectly ok to stalk someone physically, force a confrontation, and when you are called out on it, shoot the person you confronted. === That's the version thay you and some of the mass media seem to prefer, but I haven't heard any trial testimony to that effect. You and Al Sharpton can go start riots together after the verdict is rendered. |
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On 7/3/13 3:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:14:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 7/3/13 2:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of their son. === It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess is not. It's Florida, where it is perfectly ok to stalk someone physically, force a confrontation, and when you are called out on it, shoot the person you confronted. === That's the version thay you and some of the mass media seem to prefer, but I haven't heard any trial testimony to that effect. You and Al Sharpton can go start riots together after the verdict is rendered. The stand your ground defense isn't being used in the Zimmerman murder case. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 7/3/13 3:12 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:14:50 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 7/3/13 2:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 06:18:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: My opinion about the Zimmerman case matters no more than yours, Tim. I don't see the Martin kid's family getting justice for the murder of their son. === It is up to the jury to decide if he was murdered or not. My guess is not. It's Florida, where it is perfectly ok to stalk someone physically, force a confrontation, and when you are called out on it, shoot the person you confronted. === That's the version thay you and some of the mass media seem to prefer, but I haven't heard any trial testimony to that effect. You and Al Sharpton can go start riots together after the verdict is rendered. The stand your ground defense isn't being used in the Zimmerman murder case. ---------------------------------------- True, he waived his right to a stand your ground defense to be determined without benefit of a jury. He retains the right to exercise it as a defense at a later date, according to his attorneys. It was considered a strategic move by his attorneys to avoid having it rejected by a judge. However, when it all comes down to it, the only difference is that a jury will decide if the shooting and killing of Martin was justified as self defense as opposed to a judge making the determination. |
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