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On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:12:01 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 6/27/2013 3:49 PM, John H wrote:

iTunes is the biggest PITA ever developed. I let my wife talk me into putting it on my machine. Wish
I'd never done it.

John (Gun Nut) H.


My simple MP3 player is much more versatile for the dollar....

It certainly is and Amazon is a lot easier to get music from than
I-tunes. It is a one click thing.

Of course using UseNet is even easier and a whole lot cheaper ;-)

I was so turned off by iTunes that I won't do iAnything!

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On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:21:11 -0500, Califbill
wrote:



I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web
page. Not a text do document file.

My wife has an ap on her Galaxy Note that lets her print directly to
any network printer you can see on WiFi. (our house printer and that
big honker they have in her office)

The galaxy is an android and they recognize non Apple equipment.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 6/27/13 8:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...


In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I
keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my
iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note.

---------------------------------------

I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even
learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally
for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things
including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and
talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5
people at the same time.

I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put
backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at
the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning
tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad
and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to
transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to
iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that
was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer
appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously.
Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to
transfer to the iPad listed device.

I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried
uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore.
Gave up.

The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see
the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it.
I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said
to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on
the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed.

I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little
arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players.
Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which
was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad.
That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the
current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I
must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there.

I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in
the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It
used to be Windows that had that reputation.

I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web
page. Not a text do document file.



The iPad will send photos to any number of places aside from email and if
you sync it with iTunes, directly to your computer.

I do not want to send some stuff to the cloud or ITunes! You can put
sensitive info in to those items, but not me.

On 6/28/13 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:21:11 -0500, Califbill
wrote:



I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web
page. Not a text do document file.

My wife has an ap on her Galaxy Note that lets her print directly to
any network printer you can see on WiFi. (our house printer and that
big honker they have in her office)

The galaxy is an android and they recognize non Apple equipment.


I know of a handful of iPhone/iPad apps that "connect" the devices
wirelessly and directly to non-Apple printers. I use such an app to
print to my Epson photo printer and my HP laserjet, neither of which are
AirPrint printers.

On 6/28/13 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 6/27/13 8:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...


In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I
keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my
iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note.

---------------------------------------

I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even
learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally
for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things
including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and
talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5
people at the same time.

I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put
backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at
the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning
tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad
and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to
transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to
iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that
was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer
appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously.
Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to
transfer to the iPad listed device.

I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried
uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore.
Gave up.

The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see
the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it.
I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said
to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on
the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed.

I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little
arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players.
Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which
was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad.
That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the
current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I
must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there.

I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in
the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It
used to be Windows that had that reputation.

I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web
page. Not a text do document file.



The iPad will send photos to any number of places aside from email and if
you sync it with iTunes, directly to your computer.

I do not want to send some stuff to the cloud or ITunes! You can put
sensitive info in to those items, but not me.



The photos I sync via iTunes to my computer or server only go to my
computer or server. I can also send photos directly from my iPhone or
former iPad to photobucket.

On Thursday, June 27, 2013 6:41:42 PM UTC-4, Hank© wrote:
On 6/27/2013 6:25 PM, wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:44:45 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



The new laptop has all solid state storage, an SSD. No spinning drive.

That'll be something new for me in an actual laptop or desktop computer

but of course precisely what is in a smart phone and most tablets.



Supposedly faster than a hard drive, easier on the battery, et cetera.

But not upgradeable, the way a hard drive is.



My grand daughter's 2009 Disney laptop has an SSD drive but when I

bought the one for the younger grand daughter I got a real machine

with a hard drive.



You can get replacement SSDs but they ain't cheap.



A 1 terabit external drive cost me $100.

LOL...that's how much HD my Tower came with..... a TERABITE...not " terabit".

F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/28/13 6:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 6/27/13 8:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form
factor. I
keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my
iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note.

---------------------------------------

I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even
learning how or even what to use it for other than using it
occasionally
for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things
including some video conferencing application that allows her to
see and
talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with
about 5
people at the same time.

I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided
to put
backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I
have at
the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning
tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got
the iPad
and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to
transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to
iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the
iPad that
was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no
longer
appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously.
Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to
transfer to the iPad listed device.

I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried
uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device
listed anymore.
Gave up.

The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I
could see
the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to
do it.
I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still
said
to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left
column on
the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed.

I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a
little
arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various
media players.
Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of
which
was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to
the iPad.
That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in
the
current instructions. So, I went back to read them again,
thinking I
must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there.

I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a
pain in
the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their
software. It
used to be Windows that had that reputation.

I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when
traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in
Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some
stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The
Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered
USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint
printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open
a web
page. Not a text do document file.



The iPad will send photos to any number of places aside from email
and if
you sync it with iTunes, directly to your computer.

I do not want to send some stuff to the cloud or ITunes! You can put
sensitive info in to those items, but not me.



The photos I sync via iTunes to my computer or server only go to my
computer or server. I can also send photos directly from my iPhone or
former iPad to photobucket.
You have so many toys. I could have a lot more if I didn't pay my
taxes. Tell me how you screwed the taxpayers. I could have banked
nearly $60K this year in FREE money!

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says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 6/27/13 8:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...


In retrospect, I view the iPad as an iPhone in a larger form factor. I
keep track of appointments, addresses, phone numbers and more on my
iPhone, and it works well when I want to dictate a short note.

---------------------------------------

I've had an iPad for a couple of years but never got around to even
learning how or even what to use it for other than using it occasionally
for Pandora. Mrs.E. uses hers constantly for all kinds of things
including some video conferencing application that allows her to see and
talk to the grandkids in South Carolina and playing Scrabble with about 5
people at the same time.

I finally decided to see how I might be able to use it and decided to put
backing tracks of music on it, plug it into a Fishman SoloAmp I have at
the house and play along with the songs on a guitar. Great learning
tool. I had some music files on it from when I originally got the iPad
and it worked great. All was fine until I plugged it into my PC to
transfer some new songs. iTunes opened, but said I had to upgrade to
iTunes 11. Ok. I did. It also upgraded the software in the iPad that
was connected to the PC. After that, nothing worked. The iPad no longer
appeared as a "device" in the PC file structure as it had previously.
Before the upgrade I would simply drag the music file I wanted to
transfer to the iPad listed device.

I must have spent 2 hours trying to figure out what happened. Tried
uninstalling iTunes and re-installing. Still no iPad device listed anymore.
Gave up.

The next day I tried again. iTunes would open on the PC and I could see
the files I wanted to transfer, but there was no apparent way to do it.
I googled up iTunes help and followed the instructions. They still said
to simply drag the file to the iPad device listed in the left column on
the PC, but there was no longer a iPad device listed.

I finally figured it out by accident. Beside the music file was a little
arrow that looked just like the "Play" icon found on various media players.
Clicked on it and a window opened with a bunch of options one of which
was "send to". Clicked on it and one of the destinations was to the iPad.
That worked, but it bugged me as to why no mention of this was in the
current instructions. So, I went back to read them again, thinking I
must have missed it. I didn't. They aren't there.

I've heard complaints from others that Apple is getting to be a pain in
the ass with all the regular updates and upgrades of their software. It
used to be Windows that had that reputation.

I have mixed emotions about the Ipad. Very handy for email when traveling,
and nice as a book reader. Takes good pictures. When we were in Africa my
Hero camera would not charge, so used the Ipad for video and some stills.
Bitch is getting the pictures off. You have to email or use "The Cloud".
Should be able to drag them to an external USB disk or a powered USB port
with an SD Card. Also the fact you can only print to an AirPrint printer
is sucky. HP has a print app, but only if you use the app to open a web
page. Not a text do document file.



The iPad will send photos to any number of places aside from email and if
you sync it with iTunes, directly to your computer.

I do not want to send some stuff to the cloud or ITunes! You can put
sensitive info in to those items, but not me.

The the service providers want to get their hand into your wallet and keep their hand in your
wallet for as long as they can. It is about a continuous stream of revenue for the service
providers.