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Cruising/Fishing Update and Questions
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:06:25 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
That should have been 'drawbar' This Playbook puts words in my mouth if I get careless with my typing. The 2" drop can be reversed to a three quarter inch rise. I haven't seen a 'zero' drop drawbar in the places I've been so far. OK, now that makes sense. I looked at the drawbar we were using and it's reversible, as you say. Oh, I've still got it, if you're interested and haven't bought one yet. It's for a 2" hitch, and I think the ball is 2" also. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Cruising/Fishing Update and Questions
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:23:11 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
BTW..even though weboth have Highlander, there could be differences in hitch height.. A. My 2013 model is the last year of series 2... which runs from 2007-2013. B. Do you have the official Toyota hitch or an aftermarket version. Mine is the Hidden Hitch (Toyota version sits higher) C. Do you have the 17" or 19" wheels on the vehicle Ours is a 2007, with a U-Haul hitch. They make and install great hitches, BTW, for about half of what Toyota gets. 17" wheels. I don't like the low-profile tires. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Cruising/Fishing Update and Questions
Bought a Reese combination pkg which consists of the drawbar, 2" ball and the connecting rod and it's pin..on sale for $19.95
At Princess Auto. |
Cruising/Fishing Update and Questions
I have the 17" wheels also, didn't see the need to buy the pkg which included the big uns'.
My Shorelandr boat trailer has 13" wheels |
Cruising/Fishing Update and Questions
True North wrote:
Called my BVI buddy today and invited him along for my shopping trip for a new drawback/ball combo ( 2" drop and 3/4" raise ) For the Highlander. He was looking for a gaff hook to take back to Tortola next month. Found a new fishing store in a local Industrial Park. More rods, reels and gaff hooks than I've seen in a while. All looked expensive. These people also arrange shark fishing outings. "For the Highlander" is not a complete sentence. |
Cruising/Fishing Update and Questions
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 17:38:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Heh. I am picturing a 52' Grand Banks with a set of outriggers for your next cruise. We got our first tuna when I had the 37' Egg Harbor Sportsfish. It was set up as a fishing machine with outriggers, huge fishwell, live bait well and a cockpit freezer. Plus, I had purchased three tuna rods with those big, 2 speed Shimano reels. They looked like this one: http://www.thehookupcapecod.com/images/BFT_cc_blueBack_1000px.jpg ==== I have actually seen a Grand Banks like ours with outriggers on it. The aesthetics were not entirely pleasing but there's no question that it would allow you to fish more rods. Those tuna rods and reels of yours look nice. I'll have to get a couple of those before we head over here again. Unless we go down to the Keys or over here to the Bahamas, there is just no need for that kind of gear where we live. |
Cruising/Fishing Update and Questions
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 17:21:01 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
I have the 17" wheels also, didn't see the need to buy the pkg which included the big uns'. My Shorelandr boat trailer has 13" wheels That'll make a difference also. I had 15" wheels on the trailer. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Cruising/Fishing Update and Questions
On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 21:29:07 -0400, Earl wrote:
True North wrote: Called my BVI buddy today and invited him along for my shopping trip for a new drawback/ball combo ( 2" drop and 3/4" raise ) For the Highlander. He was looking for a gaff hook to take back to Tortola next month. Found a new fishing store in a local Industrial Park. More rods, reels and gaff hooks than I've seen in a while. All looked expensive. These people also arrange shark fishing outings. "For the Highlander" is not a complete sentence. Enough already! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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"Wayne B" wrote in message
... On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 07:55:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 6/5/13 8:58 PM, Wayne B wrote: Back to fishing. It has become painfully clear (literally), that I am not equipped properly, and/or not experienced enough, to boat a really big fish. We've had our chances but something always breaks before I can get the fish under control. The last demonstration of this ineptitude was several days ago. I was trolling one rod, a heavy duty model with low friction carbon fiber guides. The reel was a mid-sized Penn-Senator salt water reel spooled up with several hundred yards of hi tech Spectra braid rated at something like 200 pounds of breaking strength. The "Wahoo Magnet" lure was rigged with a heavy duty braided wire leader and double hook. We were trolling the north side of Little Inagua Island in the late afternoon, just off shore in about 900 feet of water. The fish struck really hard and screamed off about 100 yards of line in no time at all while I was throttling back and shifting to neutral. I got to the rod seconds later and started tightening the star drag as firmly as I could get it. The fish paused for a few seconds and I briefly thought that I had a chance of turning him, but almost immediately it started spooling more line off the screaming reel. You could literally smell the drag clutch burning and the reel was almost too hot to touch. I made one more attempt to tighten the drag when something broke inside the reel and it started free spooling. Within seconds the remaining line was gone, and the rod which had been bent at a 90 degree angle, snapped back and clipped me just above the eyes, leaving a nasty little cut on my forehead. I never even had a look at the darned fish but it was obviously big and powerful. Unfortunately it is yet another fish story about the one that got away. At any rate I need some advice on equipment and technique. What kind of reel is appropriate for a big, powerful fish? What kind of drag tension is needed/appropriate with 200# line? How much line do I need on the reel? What is the right strategy? Are there any good internet forums for this kind of information? Etc, etc. I don't recall the specifics, since it is been many years since I owned a Penn Senator, but I don't recall any of them rated for line with much more than 100# breaking strength. For starters, you were using line beyond the abilities of your reel. Second, Spectra doesn't stretch, so all the tension is on your rod and reel. Easy to snap the line or break your rod. Third, just what would you do if you hooked a really large fish, say something 200 pounds or more? If it were an edible fish, you'd have a very difficult time getting it aboard your boat, and, if it were a predatory fish with big teeth and it were flapping around on your deck, there's no telling what might happen to you or your wife. Fourth, if the fish were not really edible, are you going to lean over as far as it would take to remove the hook from the fish's mouth? You know how dangerous that could be. Fifth, it doesn't take 200# line to catch a really large fish. I've caught 100# to 250# pelagics on 20#-30# test line on a Shimano TLD. Sixth, if you want to go after the big ones, get yourself a large capacity lever drag reel and suitable rod, but you are going to end up paying $500 or more for a new reel, and those are prices from my memories of years ago. Maybe you need a two speed reel. Even so, 200# line is way over the top. Seventh, find out who is the best sportfishing captain for pelagics on one of those islands you frequent, and charter out for the day with one who is willing to teach you the tricks of the trade. ======= Mostly good observations and advice there Harry, but we're on our way home now with little or no time to stop and smell the roses, buy new reels, find a charter captain, etc. Why? Because I've always wanted to catch a really big fish - sort of a bucket list kind of thing. Since we're out in "big fish" country anyway, why not try to catch one? If we caught a nice, big edible fish, I could probably tail rope it and get it onboard with the dinghy hoist after a shot of rum to the gills.. I think most big, dangerous, inedible fish get "released at a distance" after a few photos. I got the 200# braided line because I was tired of break offs with 100# mono, and got a reasonably good deal on a 2,000 yard spool of the good stuff. I haven't had any break offs with it yet but clearly the point of failure has moved to the next weakest link - the reel in this case. ------------------ Should never have to touch the drag, except as a last resort. I land 100#+ tuna, standup, no chair with a Shimano Talica ll. Has about 500 yards of 65# spectra and a 100 yard 50# mono topshot. The topshot allows some give in the line, so the hook does not pull. The 500 yards allows lots of time and drag to tire the fish. Run about 15-20# drag, both for comfort for you and the fact that as the line goes out, all that line in the water adds drag to the fish and line itself. A 5-6' rod with roller eyes, so the line does not wear. Just take your time and you will land them. Last 100# yellowfin tuna took about a hour to land, but I had out a couple hundred yards of line when I hooked the fish. They were staying a ways from the boat. These are on 7-8 day long range boats out of San Diego. If you are trolling Rapalas, take the middle belly hook off, not needed and when landing, less likely to get a hook in the hand. |
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