sailmakers comments around. Have you tried discussing with the sailmaker
on
what he would
recommend and WHY.

Yes I did, however full batten sails are more expensive and therefore
sailmakers will be more incline to sale those. They think full batten is
the way to go, but I wanted to know what other users have experienced.

I have also posted my question into a C&C 27 forum and it turns out that
everybody likes full batten sails.

It looks like full batten is the way to go these days.

Thank you all for you input in this matter.
Guillermo

It is the way to go, Guillermo! They(full batten) are faster, they are
better/easier to trim and they last longer!
With the right setup they will also reef quicker and won't balloon away from
you, because they are stiffer.
All plus points. And.....when you sail you might as well sail fast.......or
faster than your buddies ;-)
Even when cruising to cut 3/4 - 1hour of a 5-6 hour journey is considerable
and not difficult to take. Especially when there are children o/b or bad
weather.
Happy sailing, you will not regret it.
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Guillermo" wrote in message
...
:
: sailmakers comments around. Have you tried discussing with the
sailmaker
: on
: what he would
: recommend and WHY.
:
: Yes I did, however full batten sails are more expensive and therefore
: sailmakers will be more incline to sale those. They think full batten is
: the way to go, but I wanted to know what other users have experienced.
:
: I have also posted my question into a C&C 27 forum and it turns out that
: everybody likes full batten sails.
:
: It looks like full batten is the way to go these days.
:
: Thank you all for you input in this matter.
: Guillermo
:
:

I agree that full battens are the best choice, but there is one drawback
which though implied, hasn't been mentioned explicitly. With full battens
and conventional slides, it is nearly impossible to get the sail down unless
heading directly upwind. This is not a serious drawback for most people, but
you should be aware of it.

Steve
C&C 27

"Wim" wrote in message
...
It is the way to go, Guillermo! They(full batten) are faster, they are
better/easier to trim and they last longer!
With the right setup they will also reef quicker and won't balloon away
from
you, because they are stiffer.
All plus points. And.....when you sail you might as well sail
fast.......or
faster than your buddies ;-)
Even when cruising to cut 3/4 - 1hour of a 5-6 hour journey is
considerable
and not difficult to take. Especially when there are children o/b or bad
weather.
Happy sailing, you will not regret it.
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Guillermo" wrote in message
...
:
: sailmakers comments around. Have you tried discussing with the
sailmaker
: on
: what he would
: recommend and WHY.
:
: Yes I did, however full batten sails are more expensive and therefore
: sailmakers will be more incline to sale those. They think full batten
is
: the way to go, but I wanted to know what other users have experienced.
:
: I have also posted my question into a C&C 27 forum and it turns out that
: everybody likes full batten sails.
:
: It looks like full batten is the way to go these days.
:
: Thank you all for you input in this matter.
: Guillermo
:
:

I have full battens, and the sail drops effortlessly. I have the low
friction nylon track with the low-friction batten cars. Really works!

I am a strong advocate of full battens - I think they are great.


--
=================
Rick Krementz
Saga 35 - Nastianna
Jersey City NJ
email address available at
www.krementz.com
====================

"Steve Thomas" wrote in message
. ..
I agree that full battens are the best choice, but there is one drawback
which though implied, hasn't been mentioned explicitly. With full battens
and conventional slides, it is nearly impossible to get the sail down
unless
heading directly upwind. This is not a serious drawback for most people,
but
you should be aware of it.

Steve
C&C 27

"Wim" wrote in message
...
It is the way to go, Guillermo! They(full batten) are faster, they are
better/easier to trim and they last longer!
With the right setup they will also reef quicker and won't balloon away
from
you, because they are stiffer.
All plus points. And.....when you sail you might as well sail
fast.......or
faster than your buddies ;-)
Even when cruising to cut 3/4 - 1hour of a 5-6 hour journey is
considerable
and not difficult to take. Especially when there are children o/b or bad
weather.
Happy sailing, you will not regret it.
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Guillermo" wrote in message
...
:
: sailmakers comments around. Have you tried discussing with the
sailmaker
: on
: what he would
: recommend and WHY.
:
: Yes I did, however full batten sails are more expensive and therefore
: sailmakers will be more incline to sale those. They think full batten
is
: the way to go, but I wanted to know what other users have experienced.
:
: I have also posted my question into a C&C 27 forum and it turns out
that
: everybody likes full batten sails.
:
: It looks like full batten is the way to go these days.
:
: Thank you all for you input in this matter.
: Guillermo
:
:

If you are out sailing on your own, how do you reef?

Do you have to go bang on head to wind or what?


garry



"Rick (Saga 35)" wrote in message
ervers.com...
I have full battens, and the sail drops effortlessly. I have the low
friction nylon track with the low-friction batten cars. Really works!

I am a strong advocate of full battens - I think they are great.


--
=================
Rick Krementz
Saga 35 - Nastianna
Jersey City NJ
email address available at
www.krementz.com
====================

"Steve Thomas" wrote in message
. ..
I agree that full battens are the best choice, but there is one drawback
which though implied, hasn't been mentioned explicitly. With full
battens
and conventional slides, it is nearly impossible to get the sail down
unless
heading directly upwind. This is not a serious drawback for most people,
but
you should be aware of it.

Steve
C&C 27

"Wim" wrote in message
...
It is the way to go, Guillermo! They(full batten) are faster, they are
better/easier to trim and they last longer!
With the right setup they will also reef quicker and won't balloon
away
from
you, because they are stiffer.
All plus points. And.....when you sail you might as well sail
fast.......or
faster than your buddies ;-)
Even when cruising to cut 3/4 - 1hour of a 5-6 hour journey is
considerable
and not difficult to take. Especially when there are children o/b or
bad
weather.
Happy sailing, you will not regret it.
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Guillermo" wrote in message
...
:
: sailmakers comments around. Have you tried discussing with the
sailmaker
: on
: what he would
: recommend and WHY.
:
: Yes I did, however full batten sails are more expensive and
therefore
: sailmakers will be more incline to sale those. They think full
batten
is
: the way to go, but I wanted to know what other users have
experienced.
:
: I have also posted my question into a C&C 27 forum and it turns out
that
: everybody likes full batten sails.
:
: It looks like full batten is the way to go these days.
:
: Thank you all for you input in this matter.
: Guillermo
:
:

I think that Rick implies that he does not have to head straight up wind
with the aftermarket nylon track and special slides. I have heard good
reviews of that sort of setup from a cost to performance perspective.

My boat has nylon slides in an aluminum track that is formed as part of the
mast extrusion.
I do have to head straight up in order to reef, but with lines led aft to
the cockpit it does not take long.

Steve Thomas

"garry crothers" wrote in message
...
If you are out sailing on your own, how do you reef?

Do you have to go bang on head to wind or what?


garry



"Rick (Saga 35)" wrote in message
ervers.com...
I have full battens, and the sail drops effortlessly. I have the low
friction nylon track with the low-friction batten cars. Really works!

I am a strong advocate of full battens - I think they are great.


--
=================
Rick Krementz
Saga 35 - Nastianna
Jersey City NJ
email address available at
www.krementz.com
====================

"Steve Thomas" wrote in message
. ..
I agree that full battens are the best choice, but there is one
drawback
which though implied, hasn't been mentioned explicitly. With full
battens
and conventional slides, it is nearly impossible to get the sail down
unless
heading directly upwind. This is not a serious drawback for most
people,
but
you should be aware of it.

Steve
C&C 27

"Wim" wrote in message
...
It is the way to go, Guillermo! They(full batten) are faster, they
are
better/easier to trim and they last longer!
With the right setup they will also reef quicker and won't balloon
away
from
you, because they are stiffer.
All plus points. And.....when you sail you might as well sail
fast.......or
faster than your buddies ;-)
Even when cruising to cut 3/4 - 1hour of a 5-6 hour journey is
considerable
and not difficult to take. Especially when there are children o/b or
bad
weather.
Happy sailing, you will not regret it.
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Guillermo" wrote in message
...
:
: sailmakers comments around. Have you tried discussing with the
sailmaker
: on
: what he would
: recommend and WHY.
:
: Yes I did, however full batten sails are more expensive and
therefore
: sailmakers will be more incline to sale those. They think full
batten
is
: the way to go, but I wanted to know what other users have
experienced.
:
: I have also posted my question into a C&C 27 forum and it turns
out
that
: everybody likes full batten sails.
:
: It looks like full batten is the way to go these days.
:
: Thank you all for you input in this matter.
: Guillermo
:
:

"Steve Thomas" wrote:

I think that Rick implies that he does not have to head straight up wind
with the aftermarket nylon track and special slides. I have heard good
reviews of that sort of setup from a cost to performance perspective.

My boat has nylon slides in an aluminum track that is formed as part of the
mast extrusion.
I do have to head straight up in order to reef, but with lines led aft to
the cockpit it does not take long.

Steve Thomas

So, you had enough of "This Old House"...? :-)
Know where I can find diagrams of the bamboo star and wave maps that
the old polyneisians used to teach navigation? :-)

-keith

I usually sail effectively alone. (Female non-sailor "crew"). Reefing is
easy: Autopilot on, slack main, drop main a few feet, crank down the reef
line so clew is tight, retension halyard, re-trim main, smooch with crew,
autopilot off. (or not...) Never leave the cockpit.

Sure as hell beats rollerfurling a monster wooden boom at the mast; I am
happy to let those good ol' days pass by.

If the wind is well behind you, it may be easier to head up a bit so you can
get some luffiing and the sail off the spreaders.


--
=================
Rick Krementz
Saga 35 - Nastianna
Jersey City NJ
email address available at
www.krementz.com
====================
"garry crothers" wrote in message
...
If you are out sailing on your own, how do you reef?

Do you have to go bang on head to wind or what?


garry



"Rick (Saga 35)" wrote in message
ervers.com...
I have full battens, and the sail drops effortlessly. I have the low
friction nylon track with the low-friction batten cars. Really works!

I am a strong advocate of full battens - I think they are great.


--
=================
Rick Krementz
Saga 35 - Nastianna
Jersey City NJ
email address available at
www.krementz.com
====================

"Steve Thomas" wrote in message
. ..
I agree that full battens are the best choice, but there is one
drawback
which though implied, hasn't been mentioned explicitly. With full
battens
and conventional slides, it is nearly impossible to get the sail down
unless
heading directly upwind. This is not a serious drawback for most
people,
but
you should be aware of it.

Steve
C&C 27

"Wim" wrote in message
...
It is the way to go, Guillermo! They(full batten) are faster, they
are
better/easier to trim and they last longer!
With the right setup they will also reef quicker and won't balloon
away
from
you, because they are stiffer.
All plus points. And.....when you sail you might as well sail
fast.......or
faster than your buddies ;-)
Even when cruising to cut 3/4 - 1hour of a 5-6 hour journey is
considerable
and not difficult to take. Especially when there are children o/b or
bad
weather.
Happy sailing, you will not regret it.
--
c ya Wim
www.cruising.ca/thousand/f-index.html


"Guillermo" wrote in message
...
:
: sailmakers comments around. Have you tried discussing with the
sailmaker
: on
: what he would
: recommend and WHY.
:
: Yes I did, however full batten sails are more expensive and
therefore
: sailmakers will be more incline to sale those. They think full
batten
is
: the way to go, but I wanted to know what other users have
experienced.
:
: I have also posted my question into a C&C 27 forum and it turns
out
that
: everybody likes full batten sails.
:
: It looks like full batten is the way to go these days.
:
: Thank you all for you input in this matter.
: Guillermo
:
: