In article , earl9311
@hotmail.com says...

JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/30/2013 7:55 PM, Earl wrote:
True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:56:47 UTC-3, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:05:25 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Here's a GOOD NEWS story for you.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...nada-oecd.html




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How's that new boat doing? Have we seen any pictures yet?



I agree with you that Canada in the summer time is a wonderful place.

One of our best boat cruises ever was up the Rideau Canal system from

Kingston, Ontario with the return leg via the Ottawa River, St

Lawrence River, Chambly Canal and Lake Champlain.
Trouble with posting pictures is..the usual low lifes will want to use
them to harass, belittle and intimidate every chance they get.

BTW I'm thinking of buying an electric trailer dolly to help manouver
the boat/trailer in tight spaces such as on my somewhat narrow street
and narrower driveway.
Princess Auto has a made in China 12 volt unit for $400.00. Comes with
single drive wheel and a small battery.
I was talking to another company that has a nicer two drive wheel
version for three times as much. (I supply car type battery)
Both are supposidly rated for between 4500 and 5000 lbs but for the
cheaper unit...that's on a level surface.
You have a history of harassment, belittling, and intimidation, Don so I
understand why you wouldn't want to post photos.

WTF is supposidly? Your spell-checking BS is yet another thing that can
backfire on you, eh?

Learn to trailer with your vehicle. I can get into any spot 12" wider
than my trailer with my SUV.

Yup, I can pretty much put a trailer anywhere. I have backed them into
marinas around corners and to slips I do have a bit of experience
driving trucks though.. My dad taught me a secret for backing when I
was about 8, when he taught me to drive.

Hand on the bottom of the wheel and move in the direction you want the
trailer to go?

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.

On 6/1/13 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.


I disagree. It takes practice, trial and error, and more practice to
back up a decent-sized trailer with accuracy. Best place to practice is
an empty parking lot and bring along some traffic cones or a substitute.

I was fortunate to start towing boats around my dad's boat yard at a
pretty young age. He made me start with a jeep and an empty trailer, and
some empty outboard motor boxes as markers. But it was easier then
because boats were smaller and you could see what was behind them as you
backed up. Trailers for 14' to 18' or so boats, no sweat. Tandem or
larger boat trailers are more difficult.

When we got our 25' Parker, which was about 32' long, overall, with the
bow pulpit and motor bracket, it took me a couple of times, despite my
decades of experience to get the hang of it. You couldn't see much on
either side of the boat when it was on the trailer and of course, you
couldn't see anything to the rear of the boat. The bow towered over the
tow vehicle.

Interestingly, my wife figured out backing up with a boat trailer almost
instantly when we got our first outboard boat in Florida, and she was
far better and more efficient at it than I ever was, no matter the size
of the boat.

On 6/1/2013 10:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/1/13 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.


I disagree. It takes practice, trial and error, and more practice to
back up a decent-sized trailer with accuracy. Best place to practice is
an empty parking lot and bring along some traffic cones or a substitute.

I was fortunate to start towing boats around my dad's boat yard at a
pretty young age. He made me start with a jeep and an empty trailer, and
some empty outboard motor boxes as markers. But it was easier then
because boats were smaller and you could see what was behind them as you
backed up. Trailers for 14' to 18' or so boats, no sweat. Tandem or
larger boat trailers are more difficult.

When we got our 25' Parker, which was about 32' long, overall, with the
bow pulpit and motor bracket, it took me a couple of times, despite my
decades of experience to get the hang of it. You couldn't see much on
either side of the boat when it was on the trailer and of course, you
couldn't see anything to the rear of the boat. The bow towered over the
tow vehicle.

Interestingly, my wife figured out backing up with a boat trailer almost
instantly when we got our first outboard boat in Florida, and she was
far better and more efficient at it than I ever was, no matter the size
of the boat.

She probably has an analytical mind and a good memory which you probably
lack.. Pivot point and overhang swing radius of the trailer are critical
things to be aware of. Trailer pivot point to tow vehicle connection
point distance is another factor that affects tendency to jackknife
especially with a receiver hitch on a long overhang to vehicle. 5th
wheels are probably the easiest to maneuver, owing to the fact that the
tow vehicle pivot point is at the axle and not some distance behind it.

On 6/1/2013 11:18 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 10:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/1/13 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.


I disagree. It takes practice, trial and error, and more practice to
back up a decent-sized trailer with accuracy. Best place to practice is
an empty parking lot and bring along some traffic cones or a substitute.

I was fortunate to start towing boats around my dad's boat yard at a
pretty young age. He made me start with a jeep and an empty trailer, and
some empty outboard motor boxes as markers. But it was easier then
because boats were smaller and you could see what was behind them as you
backed up. Trailers for 14' to 18' or so boats, no sweat. Tandem or
larger boat trailers are more difficult.

When we got our 25' Parker, which was about 32' long, overall, with the
bow pulpit and motor bracket, it took me a couple of times, despite my
decades of experience to get the hang of it. You couldn't see much on
either side of the boat when it was on the trailer and of course, you
couldn't see anything to the rear of the boat. The bow towered over the
tow vehicle.

Interestingly, my wife figured out backing up with a boat trailer almost
instantly when we got our first outboard boat in Florida, and she was
far better and more efficient at it than I ever was, no matter the size
of the boat.

She probably has an analytical mind and a good memory which you probably
lack.. Pivot point and overhang swing radius of the trailer are critical
things to be aware of. Trailer pivot point to tow vehicle connection
point distance is another factor that affects tendency to jackknife
especially with a receiver hitch on a long overhang to vehicle. 5th
wheels are probably the easiest to maneuver, owing to the fact that the
tow vehicle pivot point is at the axle and not some distance behind it.

Oh, as if backing a trailer wasn't hard enough, multiple trailer axles
present another problem. Care to guess what it is?

On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 11:22:44 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

Oh, as if backing a trailer wasn't hard enough, multiple trailer axles
present another problem. Care to guess what it is?

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Tire scrubbing?

At least with a triple axle, some of the tires just about have to be
moving sideways.

On 6/1/2013 12:50 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 11:22:44 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

Oh, as if backing a trailer wasn't hard enough, multiple trailer axles
present another problem. Care to guess what it is?

===

Tire scrubbing?

At least with a triple axle, some of the tires just about have to be
moving sideways.

Ever see one get peeled off the rim?

On Jun 1, 12:57*pm, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 12:50 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 11:22:44 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

Oh, as if backing a trailer wasn't hard enough, multiple trailer axles
present another problem. Care to guess what it is?

===

Tire scrubbing?

At least with a triple axle, some of the tires just about have to be
moving sideways.

Ever see one get peeled off the rim?

Woah! I haven't but have a mental picture of it happening.

On 6/1/2013 11:22 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 11:18 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 10:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/1/13 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.


I disagree. It takes practice, trial and error, and more practice to
back up a decent-sized trailer with accuracy. Best place to practice is
an empty parking lot and bring along some traffic cones or a substitute.

I was fortunate to start towing boats around my dad's boat yard at a
pretty young age. He made me start with a jeep and an empty trailer, and
some empty outboard motor boxes as markers. But it was easier then
because boats were smaller and you could see what was behind them as you
backed up. Trailers for 14' to 18' or so boats, no sweat. Tandem or
larger boat trailers are more difficult.

When we got our 25' Parker, which was about 32' long, overall, with the
bow pulpit and motor bracket, it took me a couple of times, despite my
decades of experience to get the hang of it. You couldn't see much on
either side of the boat when it was on the trailer and of course, you
couldn't see anything to the rear of the boat. The bow towered over the
tow vehicle.

Interestingly, my wife figured out backing up with a boat trailer almost
instantly when we got our first outboard boat in Florida, and she was
far better and more efficient at it than I ever was, no matter the size
of the boat.

She probably has an analytical mind and a good memory which you probably
lack.. Pivot point and overhang swing radius of the trailer are critical
things to be aware of. Trailer pivot point to tow vehicle connection
point distance is another factor that affects tendency to jackknife
especially with a receiver hitch on a long overhang to vehicle. 5th
wheels are probably the easiest to maneuver, owing to the fact that the
tow vehicle pivot point is at the axle and not some distance behind it.

Oh, as if backing a trailer wasn't hard enough, multiple trailer axles
present another problem. Care to guess what it is?

Never thought about it.. is there only one pivot point between the two
trailers?

In article ,
says...

On 6/1/2013 11:22 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 11:18 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 10:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/1/13 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.


I disagree. It takes practice, trial and error, and more practice to
back up a decent-sized trailer with accuracy. Best place to practice is
an empty parking lot and bring along some traffic cones or a substitute.

I was fortunate to start towing boats around my dad's boat yard at a
pretty young age. He made me start with a jeep and an empty trailer, and
some empty outboard motor boxes as markers. But it was easier then
because boats were smaller and you could see what was behind them as you
backed up. Trailers for 14' to 18' or so boats, no sweat. Tandem or
larger boat trailers are more difficult.

When we got our 25' Parker, which was about 32' long, overall, with the
bow pulpit and motor bracket, it took me a couple of times, despite my
decades of experience to get the hang of it. You couldn't see much on
either side of the boat when it was on the trailer and of course, you
couldn't see anything to the rear of the boat. The bow towered over the
tow vehicle.

Interestingly, my wife figured out backing up with a boat trailer almost
instantly when we got our first outboard boat in Florida, and she was
far better and more efficient at it than I ever was, no matter the size
of the boat.

She probably has an analytical mind and a good memory which you probably
lack.. Pivot point and overhang swing radius of the trailer are critical
things to be aware of. Trailer pivot point to tow vehicle connection
point distance is another factor that affects tendency to jackknife
especially with a receiver hitch on a long overhang to vehicle. 5th
wheels are probably the easiest to maneuver, owing to the fact that the
tow vehicle pivot point is at the axle and not some distance behind it.

Oh, as if backing a trailer wasn't hard enough, multiple trailer axles
present another problem. Care to guess what it is?

Never thought about it.. is there only one pivot point between the two
trailers?

WHAT "two trailers"?????

On 6/1/2013 1:13 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 6/1/2013 11:22 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 11:18 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 6/1/2013 10:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/1/13 8:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

There isn't a whole lot of things to know about backing a trailer
up! I
never could understand the troubles people have, but then again I grew
up on a farm.


I disagree. It takes practice, trial and error, and more practice to
back up a decent-sized trailer with accuracy. Best place to practice is
an empty parking lot and bring along some traffic cones or a
substitute.

I was fortunate to start towing boats around my dad's boat yard at a
pretty young age. He made me start with a jeep and an empty trailer,
and
some empty outboard motor boxes as markers. But it was easier then
because boats were smaller and you could see what was behind them as
you
backed up. Trailers for 14' to 18' or so boats, no sweat. Tandem or
larger boat trailers are more difficult.

When we got our 25' Parker, which was about 32' long, overall, with the
bow pulpit and motor bracket, it took me a couple of times, despite my
decades of experience to get the hang of it. You couldn't see much on
either side of the boat when it was on the trailer and of course, you
couldn't see anything to the rear of the boat. The bow towered over the
tow vehicle.

Interestingly, my wife figured out backing up with a boat trailer
almost
instantly when we got our first outboard boat in Florida, and she was
far better and more efficient at it than I ever was, no matter the size
of the boat.

She probably has an analytical mind and a good memory which you probably
lack.. Pivot point and overhang swing radius of the trailer are critical
things to be aware of. Trailer pivot point to tow vehicle connection
point distance is another factor that affects tendency to jackknife
especially with a receiver hitch on a long overhang to vehicle. 5th
wheels are probably the easiest to maneuver, owing to the fact that the
tow vehicle pivot point is at the axle and not some distance behind it.

Oh, as if backing a trailer wasn't hard enough, multiple trailer axles
present another problem. Care to guess what it is?

Never thought about it.. is there only one pivot point between the two
trailers?
One trailer, multiple axles.