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Apple comes through for me...again.
The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could
press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) |
Apple comes through for me...again.
On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) === To be perfectly honest, I don't think many of us care either. |
Apple comes through for me...again.
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Apple comes through for me...again.
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Apple comes through for me...again.
On 5/18/2013 2:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) You seem to be going to your Apple store for repairs quite frequently. |
Apple comes through for me...again.
On 5/18/2013 6:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. The referbs are actually working units that were returned for whatever reason. The defective ones are thrown away as someone else said |
Apple comes through for me...again.
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says... On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. Of course they are repaired, no one said they weren't! And actually, I know quite a bit about international shipping rates. Would you like to compare notes? I didn't think so. |
Apple comes through for me...again.
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says... On 5/18/13 9:21 PM, wrote: On Sat, 18 May 2013 18:08:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. Maybe because I was in the computer hardware biz for 30 years? Most "refurbs" are returned *working* products that are just not factory fresh (missing original packaging etc) or products that just needed a software reload. You are not "fixing" much on these machine soldered boards with SMT components. I know IBM sold monitors for over $400 and our cost was ~$39 FOB in Korea. You couldn't pay a guy making $20 an hour to do anything with a flaky one for that kind of money. We chucked them in the recycle The stuff actually being refurbed is shipped back to China and refurbed in the same factory that built it to begin with, according to some Apple guys who seem to know all, see all, and post all. That's both Greg's and my point exactly! The poor Chinese slaves get to slave when they make new phones, and get to slave again when they get your's to refurbish. |
Apple comes through for me...again.
On 5/19/13 11:06 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. Of course they are repaired, no one said they weren't! And actually, I know quite a bit about international shipping rates. Would you like to compare notes? I didn't think so. Who said they weren't repaired? "I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere." Next? |
Apple comes through for me...again.
On 5/19/13 11:07 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 5/18/13 9:21 PM, wrote: On Sat, 18 May 2013 18:08:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. Maybe because I was in the computer hardware biz for 30 years? Most "refurbs" are returned *working* products that are just not factory fresh (missing original packaging etc) or products that just needed a software reload. You are not "fixing" much on these machine soldered boards with SMT components. I know IBM sold monitors for over $400 and our cost was ~$39 FOB in Korea. You couldn't pay a guy making $20 an hour to do anything with a flaky one for that kind of money. We chucked them in the recycle The stuff actually being refurbed is shipped back to China and refurbed in the same factory that built it to begin with, according to some Apple guys who seem to know all, see all, and post all. That's both Greg's and my point exactly! The poor Chinese slaves get to slave when they make new phones, and get to slave again when they get your's to refurbish. Most smartphones and in fact most laptops, notebooks, and ordinary desktop computers are manufactured in China. Our loss. |
Apple comes through for me...again.
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says... On 5/19/13 11:06 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. Of course they are repaired, no one said they weren't! And actually, I know quite a bit about international shipping rates. Would you like to compare notes? I didn't think so. Who said they weren't repaired? "I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere." Next? He didn't say they weren't repaired. I thought you could comprehend what you've read? |
Apple comes through for me...again.
On 5/19/13 12:05 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 5/19/13 11:06 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. Of course they are repaired, no one said they weren't! And actually, I know quite a bit about international shipping rates. Would you like to compare notes? I didn't think so. Who said they weren't repaired? "I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere." Next? He didn't say they weren't repaired. I thought you could comprehend what you've read? Oh, please. I have no interest in your ceaseless hairsplitting. |
Apple comes through for me...again.
In article om,
says... On 5/18/2013 6:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. The referbs are actually working units that were returned for whatever reason. The defective ones are thrown away as someone else said Why are they referbs? I don't want junk that the manufacturer determeined was not working. |
Apple comes through for me...again.
On 5/20/2013 10:02 AM, BAR wrote:
In article om, says... On 5/18/2013 6:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. The referbs are actually working units that were returned for whatever reason. The defective ones are thrown away as someone else said Why are they referbs? I don't want junk that the manufacturer determeined was not working. They call em referbs because it would be too embarrassing to say they work fine but the customers didn't want them for whatever reason. |
Apple comes through for me...again.
In article om, hank57
@socialworker.net says... On 5/20/2013 10:02 AM, BAR wrote: In article om, says... On 5/18/2013 6:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. The referbs are actually working units that were returned for whatever reason. The defective ones are thrown away as someone else said Why are they referbs? I don't want junk that the manufacturer determeined was not working. They call em referbs because it would be too embarrassing to say they work fine but the customers didn't want them for whatever reason. Actually the are refurbs. |
Apple comes through for me...again.
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Apple comes through for me...again.
On Sat, 18 May 2013 22:02:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 5/18/13 9:21 PM, wrote: On Sat, 18 May 2013 18:08:40 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. Maybe because I was in the computer hardware biz for 30 years? Most "refurbs" are returned *working* products that are just not factory fresh (missing original packaging etc) or products that just needed a software reload. You are not "fixing" much on these machine soldered boards with SMT components. I know IBM sold monitors for over $400 and our cost was ~$39 FOB in Korea. You couldn't pay a guy making $20 an hour to do anything with a flaky one for that kind of money. We chucked them in the recycle The stuff actually being refurbed is shipped back to China and refurbed in the same factory that built it to begin with, according to some Apple guys who seem to know all, see all, and post all. Same folks that WalMart buys stuff from, huh? But WalMart's bad for doing so. Uh, huh! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
Apple comes through for me...again.
In article , says...
In article om, hank57 @socialworker.net says... On 5/20/2013 10:02 AM, BAR wrote: In article om, says... On 5/18/2013 6:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. The referbs are actually working units that were returned for whatever reason. The defective ones are thrown away as someone else said Why are they referbs? I don't want junk that the manufacturer determeined was not working. They call em referbs because it would be too embarrassing to say they work fine but the customers didn't want them for whatever reason. Actually the are refurbs. What specifically qualifies as a "refurb?" Does wiping the screen down with a damp cloth qualify? |
Apple comes through for me...again.
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says... In article , says... In article om, hank57 @socialworker.net says... On 5/20/2013 10:02 AM, BAR wrote: In article om, says... On 5/18/2013 6:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. The referbs are actually working units that were returned for whatever reason. The defective ones are thrown away as someone else said Why are they referbs? I don't want junk that the manufacturer determeined was not working. They call em referbs because it would be too embarrassing to say they work fine but the customers didn't want them for whatever reason. Actually the are refurbs. What specifically qualifies as a "refurb?" Does wiping the screen down with a damp cloth qualify? Holy Cow!! You need the simplest of things explained to you. Yes, it does. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/refurbish |
Apple comes through for me...again.
On 5/21/13 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... In article om, hank57 @socialworker.net says... On 5/20/2013 10:02 AM, BAR wrote: In article om, says... On 5/18/2013 6:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 5/18/13 6:03 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:20:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The on-off switch on my iPhone 5 misbehaved once in a while. You could press it and nothing would happen. Maybe once every 50 times, no biggie. So, I was in Annapolis near the local Apple store this morning and when the store opened at 10 am, I asked if one of the techies could see if there was a speck of dirt stuck under part of the switch, or maybe just replace the switch. "We'll just give you a new phone," he said. He transferred my SIM card to a new phone, I "registered it," and then downloaded the nightly backup I do from the Cloud, and, in 20 minutes, I was on my way. The "old" phones are shipped to an Apple depot, where they are taken apart, fixed, and sold as refurbished phones. I don't know what was wrong with the switch and...I don't care. :) I doubt they repair them at all. The slaves in China will bang one out for a few dollars. It is not worth shipping them anywhere. That's true. Cost more for shipping than it does to have the slave shop just make one more. How the hell would either of you know how much it costs to ship a barrel full of broken iphones to wherever they go for repair. The phones are repaired, because Apple frequently offers "refurbs" with new phone warranties. The referbs are actually working units that were returned for whatever reason. The defective ones are thrown away as someone else said Why are they referbs? I don't want junk that the manufacturer determeined was not working. They call em referbs because it would be too embarrassing to say they work fine but the customers didn't want them for whatever reason. Actually the are refurbs. What specifically qualifies as a "refurb?" Does wiping the screen down with a damp cloth qualify? Holy Cow!! You need the simplest of things explained to you. Yes, it does. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/refurbish In the case of Apple iPhones, the returned phones are stripped down, the battery is replaced, the phones are checked for proper operation, if there is the slightest mark on the glass screen or case, they are replaced. If the logic board is bad, it is trashed. The phones are resold as "refurbs." with a full new phone warranty and eligibility for a two year AppleCare policy. The phone I turned in lived in an Otterbox Defender case, so there wasn't even a fingerprint on the screen or case. If the power switch is replaceable, that's what will happen, and Apple will stick in a new battery and resell the phone because other than the switch, it was perfect. |
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