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On 5/8/2013 8:35 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
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On 5/8/2013 12:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
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On 5/7/2013 9:04 PM, BAR wrote:

F.O.A.D. wrote:

I just love the work I have to do in HTML.

Another lie from the deadbeat.

Look, Harry thinks he knows something!

He should let us know when he can sit down at a text editor and come out
with a fully functional webpage like my lady does...

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I don't know why anyone would be creating a webpage in HTML anymore.

What language would you use to carry the engines and display the site???

===================================

I was referring to generating a website using HTML code directly and
exclusively, without benefit of canned website creation software.
I use canned software now but occasionally modify the resultant code for
specific purposes or reasons. The last full website I did was for the
guitar shop. It was a hack job done using Yahoo's "Sitebuilder". At
one point I started redoing it in a much nicer (I thought) format using
another program with a lot of fancy features but the customers
complained. They liked the simplicity of the original design and it's
ease of use. So, I've left it alone.

That's great until you go beyond a "billboard" site.. Our sites are more
functional, and generally private, meant for ebusiness or parsing and
passing sensitive information... You are not going to do it with any
canned software, or template site...

I use the "coder" panels in Dreamweaver, I look at code. I use the
"preview" to see the CSS styles and layout as I can't see them in my
head yet looking at the code...

Last night I wrote a php script to send info from the site to several
sources including a database for further use... It collects information
from several areas of the site, parses it, and creates a form for the
participant to fill out dynamically:) Again, not something you are
gonna' find in a canned site:) But whatever...

F.O.A.D. Defined

On 5/8/13 8:34 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/8/2013 8:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/8/13 7:30 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/8/2013 12:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
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On 5/7/2013 9:04 PM, BAR wrote:

F.O.A.D. wrote:

I just love the work I have to do in HTML.

Another lie from the deadbeat.

Look, Harry thinks he knows something!

He should let us know when he can sit down at a text editor and come
out
with a fully functional webpage like my lady does...

------------------------------------------------------------

I don't know why anyone would be creating a webpage in HTML anymore.

What language would you use to carry the engines and display the site???

Because our client needed more than just an out of the box template. The
forms in particular are giving me a problem as they are so long and I am
having trouble getting them to "look" nice with the rest of the
pages....

A site we did a while back was in two languages and the guy needed to be
able to modify both sites simutanaously, this wasn't in any of the
"canned" programs you use to write typical websites. And the HTML is
just the carrier, the site is HTML, with JS, PHP, and uses extensive
CSS..

BTW, since you "don't know why anyone would be creating a webpage in
HTML anymore', what language do you use to carry the engines and display
pages over the net???

There are so many webpage publishing programs available that make it
all
so easy and the code is transparent to the user.

Sure, if you want to use a canned site.... BTW, I use Adobe Dreamweaver
CS6 and then my wife takes the code to her text editor and cleans it
up...

Back in the mid 90's when I created the original "Boats of Rec.Boats"
website, I did it all in HTML because website publishing programs
didn't
exist that I knew of. I had no formal training in HTML and at first
didn't have a clue how to do it. I would go to various existing
websites and look at the "page source" that displayed the website in
HTML. I'd see how the programmers had done certain things and I'd
"borrow" the code to create the website.

So many elements are hidden now, it's a bit different than it was when I
was doing sites back then... And even with the most extensive software,
to go beyond anything basic you do need HTML as a base...

That's back when I had
interest in that sort of thing and had the patience to go through it
all, line by line. I ended up with a huge spreadsheet of code for
each
of the pages and the images of boats that people sent in. After a few
years it got to be too much for me to maintain up to date because I
became busy with work related activities and someone was kind enough to
take it over. The original "Boats of Rec.Boats" logo was designed by
the receptionist at my company at the time.

http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats/photos/recboat.gif

The website still exists but does not include all the original people
and pages it once had. It's about half the size it once was and may be
viewed he

http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats/index.html

Eisboch

Cool Story Bro!!

Very few sites are as unimpressive as the website you
have up to "promote" your internet design and resale services. Dated
design, stolen copy, no updates. Great job.

Show us your work harry? Oh wait, you have never done any. I do hear you
lost a job sweeping floors at a blade factory back in what? 1965?? 69??
When was the last time you worked for a living?

Ahh, I remember the fun days in the early 1960s on college summer breaks
loading trucks and driving a forklift at Shick Razor in Milford,
Connecticut, and the daily "shave breaks." Spent another summer learning
to weld at Bigelow Boiler in New Haven, and one more summer at Hulls
Export Beer, loading trucks with barrels and bottles of beer. Loved all
these summer jobs.

Sorry, I don't post work output here. Too many turds like you who would
attempt to contact my clients and try to cause me to lose contracts. It
wouldn't work, of course, but it would still be a petty annoyance.

F.O.A.D. Defined

On 5/8/13 8:35 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/8/2013 12:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/7/2013 9:04 PM, BAR wrote:

F.O.A.D. wrote:

I just love the work I have to do in HTML.

Another lie from the deadbeat.

Look, Harry thinks he knows something!

He should let us know when he can sit down at a text editor and come out
with a fully functional webpage like my lady does...

------------------------------------------------------------

I don't know why anyone would be creating a webpage in HTML anymore.

What language would you use to carry the engines and display the site???

===================================

I was referring to generating a website using HTML code directly and
exclusively, without benefit of canned website creation software.
I use canned software now but occasionally modify the resultant code for
specific purposes or reasons. The last full website I did was for the
guitar shop. It was a hack job done using Yahoo's "Sitebuilder". At
one point I started redoing it in a much nicer (I thought) format using
another program with a lot of fancy features but the customers
complained. They liked the simplicity of the original design and it's
ease of use. So, I've left it alone.

One of the sites I designed and manage started out as a "canned"
wordpress design, but I've modified it so much over the years that it
isn't recognizeable anymore as wordpress. I learned HTML a long time
ago, and still use it.

In the last few years, I've noticed a number of sites that I used to
visit for info so "crapped up" with "features" that the sites, to me, at
least, are too complex and slow. There's a lot to be said for simplicity
on websites.

F.O.A.D. Defined

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
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On 5/8/2013 8:35 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/8/2013 12:40 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/7/2013 9:04 PM, BAR wrote:

F.O.A.D. wrote:

I just love the work I have to do in HTML.

Another lie from the deadbeat.

Look, Harry thinks he knows something!

He should let us know when he can sit down at a text editor and
come out
with a fully functional webpage like my lady does...

------------------------------------------------------------

I don't know why anyone would be creating a webpage in HTML
anymore.

What language would you use to carry the engines and display the
site???

===================================

I was referring to generating a website using HTML code directly and
exclusively, without benefit of canned website creation software.
I use canned software now but occasionally modify the resultant code
for
specific purposes or reasons. The last full website I did was for
the
guitar shop. It was a hack job done using Yahoo's "Sitebuilder".
At
one point I started redoing it in a much nicer (I thought) format
using
another program with a lot of fancy features but the customers
complained. They liked the simplicity of the original design and
it's
ease of use. So, I've left it alone.

That's great until you go beyond a "billboard" site.. Our sites are
more
functional, and generally private, meant for ebusiness or parsing and
passing sensitive information... You are not going to do it with any
canned software, or template site...

I use the "coder" panels in Dreamweaver, I look at code. I use the
"preview" to see the CSS styles and layout as I can't see them in my
head yet looking at the code...

Last night I wrote a php script to send info from the site to several
sources including a database for further use... It collects
information
from several areas of the site, parses it, and creates a form for the
participant to fill out dynamically:) Again, not something you are
gonna' find in a canned site:) But whatever...

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Sounds good, whatever it is that you said. You are talking to a
programming dunce here. As long as I can add text, images, videos
and music files, I really don't need anything else. The goofy
website averages about 12,000 hits per month.

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