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Wayne B May 4th 13 03:49 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.

Hank©[_2_] May 4th 13 05:02 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
No

JustWaitAFrekinMinute May 4th 13 05:30 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

*e#c May 4th 13 08:39 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On May 4, 12:30*am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:





Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.


1. *Do you have 110 volt AC available? * If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.


2. *Do you care about power consumption? *If no, see question 1.


3. *Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? * If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?


4. *Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? * If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.


5. *Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? *If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.


6. *Do you need absolute "instant on"? * If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?


7. *How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? * It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.

Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....

Eisboch[_8_] May 4th 13 09:09 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I
have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you
need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and
need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my
office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0..
er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

------------------------------------------------

Better hurry. Phillips (the largest maker of florescent light tubes)
recently announced the phase out of fluorescents in favor of LEDs.



Wayne B May 4th 13 10:46 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.

John H[_2_] May 4th 13 12:10 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.


Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

True North[_2_] May 4th 13 12:13 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
I suggest you stick your finger in...should energize you for the coming boating season.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute May 4th 13 01:59 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/4/2013 5:46 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.


Yeah, might just go with double fours... I really do have serious issues
seeing indoors with these CFL bulbs, just can't find a color that works
for my vision, which ain't what it used to be.

BAR[_2_] May 4th 13 02:06 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
In article , says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.


Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.


CFL's.

iBoaterer[_3_] May 4th 13 03:11 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
In article ,
says...

On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.



That's stupid!! The light disperses differently???? Oh man!!!!!!
BWAAHAA!!!

iBoaterer[_3_] May 4th 13 03:12 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
In article ,
says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I
have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you
need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and
need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my
office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0..
er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

------------------------------------------------

Better hurry. Phillips (the largest maker of florescent light tubes)
recently announced the phase out of fluorescents in favor of LEDs.


Good, I LOVE what LED's I have so far.

iBoaterer[_3_] May 4th 13 03:12 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.


Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.


WTF are "Al Gore bulbs"???

iBoaterer[_3_] May 4th 13 04:25 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
In article om, hank57
@socialworker.net says...

On 5/4/2013 12:30 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


Have you had your eyes checked lately? BTW, LEDs are far superior to
CFLs in many ways.


Sure, he has, it's just that FOX told him that CFL's and LED's are bad!

iBoaterer[_3_] May 4th 13 04:26 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
In article om, hank57
@socialworker.net says...

On 5/4/2013 9:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.

Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.


CFL's.


Those ARE the Al Gore bulbs.


Bull****. Fluorescent lighting has been around for many, many years.

John H[_2_] May 4th 13 04:38 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On Sat, 4 May 2013 09:06:33 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.


Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.


CFL's.


Thanks.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H[_2_] May 4th 13 04:42 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On Sat, 04 May 2013 11:52:05 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 5/4/2013 9:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.

Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.


CFL's.


Those ARE the Al Gore bulbs.


Then they don't work.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

Hank©[_2_] May 4th 13 04:44 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/4/2013 12:30 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


Have you had your eyes checked lately? BTW, LEDs are far superior to
CFLs in many ways.

Hank©[_2_] May 4th 13 04:47 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:
On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:





Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.


1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.


2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.


3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?


4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.


5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.


6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?


7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.

Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....

Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.

Hank©[_2_] May 4th 13 04:50 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/4/2013 7:13 AM, True North wrote:
I suggest you stick your finger in...should energize you for the coming boating season.

Are you still using the one bulb to illuminate your whole house? What
wattage is it?

Hank©[_2_] May 4th 13 04:52 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/4/2013 9:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.


Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.


CFL's.


Those ARE the Al Gore bulbs.

iBoaterer[_3_] May 4th 13 06:07 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.


When I lived in the frozen north my 48" fluorescent would not light in
the winter in my garage. I looked into "cold start" ballasts but they
were $75 each in 1980 money

No problem here in Florida tho.

If you get the newer T-8s or T-5s they have a bit lower wattage for
the same light output. T-12s are going through the same phase out as
the incandescent bulbs. Some commercial supply houses don't sell them
at all now but you can still get them at consumer outlets like
HD/Lowes..


A lot of things don't work well in the frozen north!

True North[_2_] May 4th 13 07:15 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
If that's the case, go out and get a real job. It would do you wonders.

*e#c May 4th 13 08:34 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On May 4, 10:47*am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:


Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.


1. *Do you have 110 volt AC available? * If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.


2. *Do you care about power consumption? *If no, see question 1.


3. *Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? * If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?


4. *Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? * If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.


5. *Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? *If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.


6. *Do you need absolute "instant on"? * If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?


7. *How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? * It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.


Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....


Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.


Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......

*e#c May 4th 13 08:36 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On May 4, 2:15*pm, True North wrote:
If that's the case, go out and get a real job. It would do you wonders.


Gumby is talking to himself. He doesnt have Harrys dick in his mouth,
and is lost.

Hank©[_2_] May 4th 13 09:54 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/4/2013 3:34 PM, *e#c wrote:
On May 4, 10:47 am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:


Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.


1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.


2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.


3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?


4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.


5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.


6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?


7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.


Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....


Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.


Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......

You trying to hurt my feelings or sumpin?

Hank©[_2_] May 4th 13 09:55 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/4/2013 3:34 PM, *e#c wrote:
On May 4, 10:47 am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:


Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.


1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.


2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.


3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?


4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.


5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.


6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?


7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.


Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....


Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.


Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......

Ahhhh. I see you need more lamp time.

True North[_2_] May 4th 13 10:53 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
That advice applies to you equally, Jackass.

*e#c May 5th 13 08:17 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On May 4, 3:55*pm, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:34 PM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 10:47 am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:


On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:


Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.


1. *Do you have 110 volt AC available? * If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.


2. *Do you care about power consumption? *If no, see question 1..


3. *Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? * If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?


4. *Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? * If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.


5. *Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? *If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.


6. *Do you need absolute "instant on"? * If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?


7. *How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? * It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.


Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....


Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.


Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......


Ahhhh. I see you need more lamp time.


But exactly WHO is Gumby talking to.....his hand????

Hank©[_2_] May 5th 13 01:37 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/5/2013 3:17 AM, *e#c wrote:
On May 4, 3:55 pm, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:34 PM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 10:47 am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:


On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:


Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.


1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.


2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1..


3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?


4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.


5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.


6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?


7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those:) I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.


Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....


Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.


Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......


Ahhhh. I see you need more lamp time.


But exactly WHO is Gumby talking to.....his hand????


???

Paul Hovnanian P.E. May 15th 13 05:02 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 

8. Are you concerned with the possibility of cheap electronics in CFL
ballasts interfering with your radio gear?

--
Paul Hovnanian
------------------------------------------------------------------
If it wasn't for physics and law enforcement, I would be unstoppable!


Wayne B May 16th 13 02:32 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:02:18 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote:

8. Are you concerned with the possibility of cheap electronics in CFL
ballasts interfering with your radio gear?


===

Doesn't seem to be an issue. I use my SSB radio almost every day and
it is more sensitive to RFI than most things. I have a battery
charger made by a well respected marine electronics company that is
far worse. The GPS units and VHF radio seem almost impervious to
anything. I have noticed that the microwave oven knocks out my WiFi
repeater however.

Eisboch[_8_] May 16th 13 04:18 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 


"Wayne B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:02:18 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote:

8. Are you concerned with the possibility of cheap electronics in CFL
ballasts interfering with your radio gear?


===

Doesn't seem to be an issue. I use my SSB radio almost every day and
it is more sensitive to RFI than most things. I have a battery
charger made by a well respected marine electronics company that is
far worse. The GPS units and VHF radio seem almost impervious to
anything. I have noticed that the microwave oven knocks out my WiFi
repeater however.

--------------------------------------------------

That would make me a little nervous Wayne. The door gaskets and
perforated metal "screen" in the microwave window are supposed to
block any microwave radiation from the oven. If there's enough
leakage to knock out your wi-fi signal I think I'd be thinking of
replacing the microwave.
I am on a computer sitting about 7 feet from a 1200 watt microwave.
My computer connection to our home wi-fi router isn't the strongest
connection in the world because the router is located in a room quite
a distance away. But even with a weak signal the microwave has no
affect on the connection.



Wayne B May 16th 13 09:56 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On Wed, 15 May 2013 23:18:09 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

That would make me a little nervous Wayne. The door gaskets and
perforated metal "screen" in the microwave window are supposed to
block any microwave radiation from the oven. If there's enough
leakage to knock out your wi-fi signal I think I'd be thinking of
replacing the microwave.


=========

I hear you and I have thought about it. The problem is that the
microwave resides in a custom built teak enclosure that came with the
boat. A new unit would have to be exactly the same size to fit. We
don't use it a huge amount, it contues to work well for its intended
purpose, and I doubt that there is any real safety issue.

Hank©[_2_] May 16th 13 10:50 AM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
On 5/16/2013 4:56 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 15 May 2013 23:18:09 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

That would make me a little nervous Wayne. The door gaskets and
perforated metal "screen" in the microwave window are supposed to
block any microwave radiation from the oven. If there's enough
leakage to knock out your wi-fi signal I think I'd be thinking of
replacing the microwave.


=========

I hear you and I have thought about it. The problem is that the
microwave resides in a custom built teak enclosure that came with the
boat. A new unit would have to be exactly the same size to fit. We
don't use it a huge amount, it contues to work well for its intended
purpose, and I doubt that there is any real safety issue.

You need a joinery expert to fit in a nice convection microwave.

iBoaterer[_3_] May 16th 13 01:58 PM

On Topic: Should You Use CFL Bulbs on Your Boat
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 15 May 2013 09:02:18 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote:

8. Are you concerned with the possibility of cheap electronics in CFL
ballasts interfering with your radio gear?


===

Doesn't seem to be an issue. I use my SSB radio almost every day and
it is more sensitive to RFI than most things. I have a battery
charger made by a well respected marine electronics company that is
far worse. The GPS units and VHF radio seem almost impervious to
anything. I have noticed that the microwave oven knocks out my WiFi
repeater however.


Damn it, Wayne, you're supposed to say that the things are awful, and
that you've bought a warehouse full of 60 watt incandescents because you
can't see with the CFL's, or some other strawman reason to not like
them!!!


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