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On 5/3/2013 4:31 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/3/13 4:24 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:34:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The code says "to provide for a neutral conductor to complete the circuit for electronic lighting controls". That is not necessary if you have an incandescent load. Maybe you are just to dumb to make the connection or you are just ****ing with me for some personal reason but I am done. None of the above. Your notion that it's just for CFL's and LED's is bull**** and further, you know it is! As you say, it is "to provide for a neutral conductor..." It isn't "necessary" for a CFL any more than it is for an incandescent light! Period. And you can't show me how/where it is, because it isn't happening. I have a half dozen 2 wire occupancy sensors working fine on incandescents without a neutral. None work with a CFL or LED. Why is that so hard for you to understand? It's not hard for me to understand, and you are changing yet again. YOU said that the code was changed BECAUSE OF CFL's AND LED's. That is not true. Perhaps because you are in beyond your depth. See above. It's you that's in above your head. I've asked and asked to show me where in the code, OR even in code comments it says that they went to three wire because of CFL's. You can't because it's not true. I suppose I could go to the manufacturer web site and see where they verify my result but why bother. You would quibble with their language too. It would have NOTHING to do with code issues as you stated but now somehow don't. You two have split the hairs down to atom size. Isn't there something more interesting you can argue about with Greg over the course of 5,000 posts? Why don't you just kill the thread? You don't know what they are talking about anyway. |
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On 5/3/2013 5:19 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:31:58 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 5/3/13 4:24 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:34:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The code says "to provide for a neutral conductor to complete the circuit for electronic lighting controls". That is not necessary if you have an incandescent load. Maybe you are just to dumb to make the connection or you are just ****ing with me for some personal reason but I am done. None of the above. Your notion that it's just for CFL's and LED's is bull**** and further, you know it is! As you say, it is "to provide for a neutral conductor..." It isn't "necessary" for a CFL any more than it is for an incandescent light! Period. And you can't show me how/where it is, because it isn't happening. I have a half dozen 2 wire occupancy sensors working fine on incandescents without a neutral. None work with a CFL or LED. Why is that so hard for you to understand? It's not hard for me to understand, and you are changing yet again. YOU said that the code was changed BECAUSE OF CFL's AND LED's. That is not true. Perhaps because you are in beyond your depth. See above. It's you that's in above your head. I've asked and asked to show me where in the code, OR even in code comments it says that they went to three wire because of CFL's. You can't because it's not true. I suppose I could go to the manufacturer web site and see where they verify my result but why bother. You would quibble with their language too. It would have NOTHING to do with code issues as you stated but now somehow don't. You two have split the hairs down to atom size. Isn't there something more interesting you can argue about with Greg over the course of 5,000 posts? Maybe they could argue about how many basketball players are still in the closet. I say 12. John H. I doubt they care. It's Harry's topic of interest. Let him sort it out |
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On 5/3/2013 5:43 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 5/3/13 4:24 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:34:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The code says "to provide for a neutral conductor to complete the circuit for electronic lighting controls". That is not necessary if you have an incandescent load. Maybe you are just to dumb to make the connection or you are just ****ing with me for some personal reason but I am done. None of the above. Your notion that it's just for CFL's and LED's is bull**** and further, you know it is! As you say, it is "to provide for a neutral conductor..." It isn't "necessary" for a CFL any more than it is for an incandescent light! Period. And you can't show me how/where it is, because it isn't happening. I have a half dozen 2 wire occupancy sensors working fine on incandescents without a neutral. None work with a CFL or LED. Why is that so hard for you to understand? It's not hard for me to understand, and you are changing yet again. YOU said that the code was changed BECAUSE OF CFL's AND LED's. That is not true. Perhaps because you are in beyond your depth. See above. It's you that's in above your head. I've asked and asked to show me where in the code, OR even in code comments it says that they went to three wire because of CFL's. You can't because it's not true. I suppose I could go to the manufacturer web site and see where they verify my result but why bother. You would quibble with their language too. It would have NOTHING to do with code issues as you stated but now somehow don't. You two have split the hairs down to atom size. Isn't there something more interesting you can argue about with Greg over the course of 5,000 posts? --------------------------------------------------------- I have no idea who "iBoater" is, but I think he would argue what shade of black the night sky is indefinitely. It's Kevin aka, basskisser, loogie picker, nom de plume.... |
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On Fri, 3 May 2013 17:43:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 5/3/13 4:24 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:34:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The code says "to provide for a neutral conductor to complete the circuit for electronic lighting controls". That is not necessary if you have an incandescent load. Maybe you are just to dumb to make the connection or you are just ****ing with me for some personal reason but I am done. None of the above. Your notion that it's just for CFL's and LED's is bull**** and further, you know it is! As you say, it is "to provide for a neutral conductor..." It isn't "necessary" for a CFL any more than it is for an incandescent light! Period. And you can't show me how/where it is, because it isn't happening. I have a half dozen 2 wire occupancy sensors working fine on incandescents without a neutral. None work with a CFL or LED. Why is that so hard for you to understand? It's not hard for me to understand, and you are changing yet again. YOU said that the code was changed BECAUSE OF CFL's AND LED's. That is not true. Perhaps because you are in beyond your depth. See above. It's you that's in above your head. I've asked and asked to show me where in the code, OR even in code comments it says that they went to three wire because of CFL's. You can't because it's not true. I suppose I could go to the manufacturer web site and see where they verify my result but why bother. You would quibble with their language too. It would have NOTHING to do with code issues as you stated but now somehow don't. You two have split the hairs down to atom size. Isn't there something more interesting you can argue about with Greg over the course of 5,000 posts? --------------------------------------------------------- I have no idea who "iBoater" is, but I think he would argue what shade of black the night sky is indefinitely. Come on...you've not lost your powers of observation. Compare this guy to basskisser, and you'll know immediately who it is. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 5/3/13 4:24 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:34:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The code says "to provide for a neutral conductor to complete the circuit for electronic lighting controls". That is not necessary if you have an incandescent load. Maybe you are just to dumb to make the connection or you are just ****ing with me for some personal reason but I am done. None of the above. Your notion that it's just for CFL's and LED's is bull**** and further, you know it is! As you say, it is "to provide for a neutral conductor..." It isn't "necessary" for a CFL any more than it is for an incandescent light! Period. And you can't show me how/where it is, because it isn't happening. I have a half dozen 2 wire occupancy sensors working fine on incandescents without a neutral. None work with a CFL or LED. Why is that so hard for you to understand? It's not hard for me to understand, and you are changing yet again. YOU said that the code was changed BECAUSE OF CFL's AND LED's. That is not true. Perhaps because you are in beyond your depth. See above. It's you that's in above your head. I've asked and asked to show me where in the code, OR even in code comments it says that they went to three wire because of CFL's. You can't because it's not true. I suppose I could go to the manufacturer web site and see where they verify my result but why bother. You would quibble with their language too. It would have NOTHING to do with code issues as you stated but now somehow don't. You two have split the hairs down to atom size. Isn't there something more interesting you can argue about with Greg over the course of 5,000 posts? I guess we could argue about who has bragged about having money but in reality has tax liens and bankruptcies. |
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says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 5/3/13 4:24 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:34:21 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The code says "to provide for a neutral conductor to complete the circuit for electronic lighting controls". That is not necessary if you have an incandescent load. Maybe you are just to dumb to make the connection or you are just ****ing with me for some personal reason but I am done. None of the above. Your notion that it's just for CFL's and LED's is bull**** and further, you know it is! As you say, it is "to provide for a neutral conductor..." It isn't "necessary" for a CFL any more than it is for an incandescent light! Period. And you can't show me how/where it is, because it isn't happening. I have a half dozen 2 wire occupancy sensors working fine on incandescents without a neutral. None work with a CFL or LED. Why is that so hard for you to understand? It's not hard for me to understand, and you are changing yet again. YOU said that the code was changed BECAUSE OF CFL's AND LED's. That is not true. Perhaps because you are in beyond your depth. See above. It's you that's in above your head. I've asked and asked to show me where in the code, OR even in code comments it says that they went to three wire because of CFL's. You can't because it's not true. I suppose I could go to the manufacturer web site and see where they verify my result but why bother. You would quibble with their language too. It would have NOTHING to do with code issues as you stated but now somehow don't. You two have split the hairs down to atom size. Isn't there something more interesting you can argue about with Greg over the course of 5,000 posts? --------------------------------------------------------- I have no idea who "iBoater" is, but I think he would argue what shade of black the night sky is indefinitely. Well, yes because it's not a black and white issue, there would be several shades, light no light, what type of light, clouds, etc. |
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