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On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. |
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On 4/21/2013 5:55 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. How about anti religious folks. Do you suppose a few of them are acting in hateful extreme ways, say, for instance, you? |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. |
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On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. |
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Also many thanks to the local Jewish synagogue for opening their doors to the Christian faithful http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/art...rs-4451214.php |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. --------------------------------------------- Agreed, but the Christian extremist will most likely end up in prison for life or face the executioner. The Muslim extremist will be hailed as a hero, dead or alive in the eyes of many. My point is that Christianity is not the law of the land anywhere that I can think of but Islamic fundamentalism *is* in many areas of the world. I am referring to those led by religious zealots who incorrectly interpret a "Jihad" as being a choice of conversion to Islam or death. The difference is that unlike Christian extremist nut cases who act in violation of the laws of the land, the militant Muslim extremists are following the laws of their land, which happen to be governed and controlled by their religious leaders. |
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On Apr 21, 4:55*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye.... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. If they 'say' they are Christians and don't act in a manner due to Christ does that mean they 'are' Christians? I'm actually thinking you believe so. |
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On 4/21/13 7:38 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. --------------------------------------------- Agreed, but the Christian extremist will most likely end up in prison for life or face the executioner. The Muslim extremist will be hailed as a hero, dead or alive in the eyes of many. My point is that Christianity is not the law of the land anywhere that I can think of but Islamic fundamentalism *is* in many areas of the world. I am referring to those led by religious zealots who incorrectly interpret a "Jihad" as being a choice of conversion to Islam or death. The difference is that unlike Christian extremist nut cases who act in violation of the laws of the land, the militant Muslim extremists are following the laws of their land, which happen to be governed and controlled by their religious leaders. Uh, there have been plenty of nations where one version of christianity or another has been the law of the land, and where all manner of atrocities have been committed in the name of "the faith." Europe was rife with this sort of thinking, and it was established by christians in central and south america. It's even reared its ugly head in this country, e.g., pre-Civil War Southern Baptists were advocates of slavery and that advocacy was based upon their interpretation of christianity. Religion rears its ugly head in many ways. About a third of Americans, according to recent legitimate surveys, would like the United States to adopt christianity as its official religion. |
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On 4/21/13 7:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:55 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. If they 'say' they are Christians and don't act in a manner due to Christ does that mean they 'are' Christians? I'm actually thinking you believe so. Really? Many self-described christians seem to interpret the teachings of jesus to suit themselves or their various sects. Here's a minor interesting example of how christians treated a class of people they considered witches: http://www.summerlands.com/crossroad...ce/current.htm |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:38 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. --------------------------------------------- Agreed, but the Christian extremist will most likely end up in prison for life or face the executioner. The Muslim extremist will be hailed as a hero, dead or alive in the eyes of many. My point is that Christianity is not the law of the land anywhere that I can think of but Islamic fundamentalism *is* in many areas of the world. I am referring to those led by religious zealots who incorrectly interpret a "Jihad" as being a choice of conversion to Islam or death. The difference is that unlike Christian extremist nut cases who act in violation of the laws of the land, the militant Muslim extremists are following the laws of their land, which happen to be governed and controlled by their religious leaders. Uh, there have been plenty of nations where one version of christianity or another has been the law of the land, and where all manner of atrocities have been committed in the name of "the faith." Europe was rife with this sort of thinking, and it was established by christians in central and south america. It's even reared its ugly head in this country, e.g., pre-Civil War Southern Baptists were advocates of slavery and that advocacy was based upon their interpretation of christianity. Religion rears its ugly head in many ways. About a third of Americans, according to recent legitimate surveys, would like the United States to adopt christianity as its official religion. ------------------------------------------- I spoke in the present tense. You are talking about history. |
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"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:38 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. --------------------------------------------- Agreed, but the Christian extremist will most likely end up in prison for life or face the executioner. The Muslim extremist will be hailed as a hero, dead or alive in the eyes of many. My point is that Christianity is not the law of the land anywhere that I can think of but Islamic fundamentalism *is* in many areas of the world. I am referring to those led by religious zealots who incorrectly interpret a "Jihad" as being a choice of conversion to Islam or death. The difference is that unlike Christian extremist nut cases who act in violation of the laws of the land, the militant Muslim extremists are following the laws of their land, which happen to be governed and controlled by their religious leaders. Uh, there have been plenty of nations where one version of christianity or another has been the law of the land, and where all manner of atrocities have been committed in the name of "the faith." Europe was rife with this sort of thinking, and it was established by christians in central and south america. It's even reared its ugly head in this country, e.g., pre-Civil War Southern Baptists were advocates of slavery and that advocacy was based upon their interpretation of christianity. Religion rears its ugly head in many ways. About a third of Americans, according to recent legitimate surveys, would like the United States to adopt christianity as its official religion. ------------------------------------------- I spoke in the present tense. You are talking about history. Right...the christian Serbs didn't rape, pillage and slaughter Muslims a couple of decades ago. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:38 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. --------------------------------------------- Agreed, but the Christian extremist will most likely end up in prison for life or face the executioner. The Muslim extremist will be hailed as a hero, dead or alive in the eyes of many. My point is that Christianity is not the law of the land anywhere that I can think of but Islamic fundamentalism *is* in many areas of the world. I am referring to those led by religious zealots who incorrectly interpret a "Jihad" as being a choice of conversion to Islam or death. The difference is that unlike Christian extremist nut cases who act in violation of the laws of the land, the militant Muslim extremists are following the laws of their land, which happen to be governed and controlled by their religious leaders. Uh, there have been plenty of nations where one version of christianity or another has been the law of the land, and where all manner of atrocities have been committed in the name of "the faith." Europe was rife with this sort of thinking, and it was established by christians in central and south america. It's even reared its ugly head in this country, e.g., pre-Civil War Southern Baptists were advocates of slavery and that advocacy was based upon their interpretation of christianity. Religion rears its ugly head in many ways. About a third of Americans, according to recent legitimate surveys, would like the United States to adopt christianity as its official religion. ------------------------------------------- I spoke in the present tense. You are talking about history. Right...the christian Serbs didn't rape, pillage and slaughter Muslims a couple of decades ago. ----------------------------------------- Muslims have been trying to exterminate Christian Serbs since the thirteenth century. It's a political war. Clinton didn't help matters much either when he was establishing policy. |
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On 4/21/13 8:59 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:38 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. --------------------------------------------- Agreed, but the Christian extremist will most likely end up in prison for life or face the executioner. The Muslim extremist will be hailed as a hero, dead or alive in the eyes of many. My point is that Christianity is not the law of the land anywhere that I can think of but Islamic fundamentalism *is* in many areas of the world. I am referring to those led by religious zealots who incorrectly interpret a "Jihad" as being a choice of conversion to Islam or death. The difference is that unlike Christian extremist nut cases who act in violation of the laws of the land, the militant Muslim extremists are following the laws of their land, which happen to be governed and controlled by their religious leaders. Uh, there have been plenty of nations where one version of christianity or another has been the law of the land, and where all manner of atrocities have been committed in the name of "the faith." Europe was rife with this sort of thinking, and it was established by christians in central and south america. It's even reared its ugly head in this country, e.g., pre-Civil War Southern Baptists were advocates of slavery and that advocacy was based upon their interpretation of christianity. Religion rears its ugly head in many ways. About a third of Americans, according to recent legitimate surveys, would like the United States to adopt christianity as its official religion. ------------------------------------------- I spoke in the present tense. You are talking about history. Right...the christian Serbs didn't rape, pillage and slaughter Muslims a couple of decades ago. ----------------------------------------- Muslims have been trying to exterminate Christian Serbs since the thirteenth century. It's a political war. Clinton didn't help matters much either when he was establishing policy. |
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On 4/21/13 8:59 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:38 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. --------------------------------------------- Agreed, but the Christian extremist will most likely end up in prison for life or face the executioner. The Muslim extremist will be hailed as a hero, dead or alive in the eyes of many. My point is that Christianity is not the law of the land anywhere that I can think of but Islamic fundamentalism *is* in many areas of the world. I am referring to those led by religious zealots who incorrectly interpret a "Jihad" as being a choice of conversion to Islam or death. The difference is that unlike Christian extremist nut cases who act in violation of the laws of the land, the militant Muslim extremists are following the laws of their land, which happen to be governed and controlled by their religious leaders. Uh, there have been plenty of nations where one version of christianity or another has been the law of the land, and where all manner of atrocities have been committed in the name of "the faith." Europe was rife with this sort of thinking, and it was established by christians in central and south america. It's even reared its ugly head in this country, e.g., pre-Civil War Southern Baptists were advocates of slavery and that advocacy was based upon their interpretation of christianity. Religion rears its ugly head in many ways. About a third of Americans, according to recent legitimate surveys, would like the United States to adopt christianity as its official religion. ------------------------------------------- I spoke in the present tense. You are talking about history. Right...the christian Serbs didn't rape, pillage and slaughter Muslims a couple of decades ago. ----------------------------------------- Muslims have been trying to exterminate Christian Serbs since the thirteenth century. It's a political war. Clinton didn't help matters much either when he was establishing policy. Christians have been murdering Muslims for just as long. Christians have also spent centuries killing each other, and also Jews and Hindus. The big time religions are into big time blood letting. I'm not sure belief in a supreme being is as much the cause as is organized religion. I wonder if we'd be better off believing in a creator if we had to, but not having organized religions. |
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On Apr 21, 6:17*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." *wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye.... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. When you've been blown up or shot to death by anybody you're just as dead, too. Harry it seems that your view is that anyone who blows up or shoots someone to death simply has to be some 'radical religious extremist' |
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On Apr 21, 6:52*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
Uh, there have been plenty of nations where one version of Christianity or another has been the law of the land... Has been??? What about the 'is now?' |
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On 4/21/13 10:14 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 21, 6:17 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. When you've been blown up or shot to death by a muslim or christian radical religious extremist, you're just as dead. When you've been blown up or shot to death by anybody you're just as dead, too. Harry it seems that your view is that anyone who blows up or shoots someone to death simply has to be some 'radical religious extremist' Not at all, but a significant number of crazies with guns and bombs are religious extremists. |
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:06:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
I'm not sure belief in a supreme being is as much the cause as is organized religion. === The problem is not so much religion as it is human nature. How do you fix that? It is in our genes through countless thousands of years of selective Darwinism to mistrust, and try to eliminate, those tribes which are different. Only when drawn together by a common goal are those differences temporarily put aside. |
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On 4/21/13 10:16 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 21, 6:52 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Uh, there have been plenty of nations where one version of Christianity or another has been the law of the land... Has been??? What about the 'is now?' A number of states in this country have dumped the constitution and rule of law in favor of religious rule. Kansas is one, Virginia's Republican governor wannabe will do his best if he is elected. |
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On 4/21/13 10:18 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:06:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm not sure belief in a supreme being is as much the cause as is organized religion. === The problem is not so much religion as it is human nature. How do you fix that? It is in our genes through countless thousands of years of selective Darwinism to mistrust, and try to eliminate, those tribes which are different. Only when drawn together by a common goal are those differences temporarily put aside. What a wonderful rationalization and "escape clause" for the horrors perpetrated on civilizations by organized religion. |
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On Apr 21, 6:57*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/21/13 7:43 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 4:55 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. If they 'say' they are Christians and don't act in a manner due to Christ does that mean they 'are' Christians? * I'm actually thinking you believe so. Really? Many self-described christians seem to interpret the teachings of jesus to suit themselves or their various sects. Obviously Here's a minor interesting example of how christians treated a class of people they considered witches: http://www.summerlands.com/crossroad...ce/current.htm *The following table lists current estimates of the number of Witches killed in various countries during the Burning Times (1300-1800) *This table does not include all estimates of the death toll. Older and popular books often contain higher numbers because they're not based on solid evidence. Wow, medieval statistics with questionable accuracy. |
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On 4/21/13 10:22 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 21, 6:57 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 7:43 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 4:55 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. If they 'say' they are Christians and don't act in a manner due to Christ does that mean they 'are' Christians? I'm actually thinking you believe so. Really? Many self-described christians seem to interpret the teachings of jesus to suit themselves or their various sects. Obviously Here's a minor interesting example of how christians treated a class of people they considered witches: http://www.summerlands.com/crossroad...ce/current.htm *The following table lists current estimates of the number of Witches killed in various countries during the Burning Times (1300-1800) *This table does not include all estimates of the death toll. Older and popular books often contain higher numbers because they're not based on solid evidence. Wow, medieval statistics with questionable accuracy. You don't accept it on faith, eh? I find that...humorous, especially since the "new testament" is simply a collection of tales selected and edited centuries after the life of jesus. It's just a religious tome with "questionable" accuracy, right? :) |
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:20:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/21/13 10:18 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:06:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm not sure belief in a supreme being is as much the cause as is organized religion. === The problem is not so much religion as it is human nature. How do you fix that? It is in our genes through countless thousands of years of selective Darwinism to mistrust, and try to eliminate, those tribes which are different. Only when drawn together by a common goal are those differences temporarily put aside. What a wonderful rationalization and "escape clause" for the horrors perpetrated on civilizations by organized religion. ==== My point is that it's not just religious differences - that's just one aspect of a bigger problem. |
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:20:22 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 10:18 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:06:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm not sure belief in a supreme being is as much the cause as is organized religion. === The problem is not so much religion as it is human nature. How do you fix that? It is in our genes through countless thousands of years of selective Darwinism to mistrust, and try to eliminate, those tribes which are different. Only when drawn together by a common goal are those differences temporarily put aside. What a wonderful rationalization and "escape clause" for the horrors perpetrated on civilizations by organized religion. ==== My point is that it's not just religious differences - that's just one aspect of a bigger problem. I don't disagree, though I believe organized religion is a major contributor. Central and South America indigenous peoples were decimated in the name of Jesus. |
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On 4/21/2013 12:46 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? Ther3e's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3120145.html There's a difference between the allegedly radical muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? Yes... one is prevalent, and accepted by their leaders, one is an anomaly, carried out by those who have strayed... |
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On 4/21/2013 6:36 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 4/21/2013 5:55 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. How about anti religious folks. Do you suppose a few of them are acting in hateful extreme ways, say, for instance, you? I bet 99% of the murder in this country is by non-active or non-christians... |
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On 4/21/2013 7:07 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. There you go, exactly... now can we stop ansering harrys trolls yet? |
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On 4/21/2013 12:00 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 21:18:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/19/13 9:13 PM, Eisboch wrote: Residents of Watertown lined up on the side of the road cheering and applauding the police, firefighters, SWAT teams and National Guard as they depart the area after the capture of the remaining bomber. I hope the captured guy hasn't been shot so badly he dies, either of his wounds or as the result of something happening to him while he is in custody. If he lives, we might get to the bottom of this attack and perhaps if there are others involved. I've already seen too many morons referring to him as a "Muslim scumbag," and "well, what do you expect from Muslims." Disgusting. Same thing as saying: "All Christians **** little boys. Every single one of them in every case without exception. It is the entire foundation of the religion and everyone who identifies as Christian really means "I have raped as many children as I could get my hands on." I missed the 'well, what do you expect from Muslims.' Could you point that one out please. On the other hand, the two who performed the act were Muslim scumbags. That's an appropriate name for a couple of Muslim terrorists. Your analogy is bull****. No one said anything remotely like that. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. If you have followed Harry's modus operandi over the years, then you will have noticed that he seeks out those who seem to have a soft spot somewhere in their psychological make up or back ground. He will then chip away at that spot trying to force some sort of emotional blow up. This is a form of bullying of course which Harry seems to find amusing for some reason. It would be all too easy to compile a list of some of his past victims that he has driven from this group. Mr Hypocrite himself, drooling over with false concern for the down trodden of the world, getting his jollies by trying to push people over the edge. It's pretty sick behavior and typical for a sociopath. When no one seems to be rising to the bait, Harry will invent a new sock puppet or invite a few "friends" over from some other group. The antidote for all this is to just cut him off and ignore the sock puppets when they becme known. |
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On 4/21/2013 11:57 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 21:13:28 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Residents of Watertown lined up on the side of the road cheering and applauding the police, firefighters, SWAT teams and National Guard as they depart the area after the capture of the remaining bomber. Unlike Chris Mathews who became obviously agitated during his show's coverage of the event because the police authorities weren't providing sufficient real time information as to what was going on to his satisfaction. Does he seriously think he is so important that the law enforcement authorities owe him answers to his "Hardball" type questions and tirades? What an ass ! I wholeheartedly agree with that post. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. What else would you expect from MSNBC? There are no republicans there... no Dick... Joe is not a republican no matter how much you would like to think he represents "the other side"... LOL! |
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On 4/21/2013 10:16 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 21, 6:52 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Uh, there have been plenty of nations where one version of Christianity or another has been the law of the land... Has been??? What about the 'is now?' If you have followed Harry's modus operandi over the years, then you will have noticed that he seeks out those who seem to have a soft spot somewhere in their psychological make up or back ground. He will then chip away at that spot trying to force some sort of emotional blow up. This is a form of bullying of course which Harry seems to find amusing for some reason. It would be all too easy to compile a list of some of his past victims that he has driven from this group. Mr Hypocrite himself, drooling over with false concern for the down trodden of the world, getting his jollies by trying to push people over the edge. It's pretty sick behavior and typical for a sociopath. When no one seems to be rising to the bait, Harry will invent a new sock puppet or invite a few "friends" over from some other group. The antidote for all this is to just cut him off and ignore the sock puppets when they becme known. |
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On 4/21/2013 7:43 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:55 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. If they 'say' they are Christians and don't act in a manner due to Christ does that mean they 'are' Christians? I'm actually thinking you believe so. If you have followed Harry's modus operandi over the years, then you will have noticed that he seeks out those who seem to have a soft spot somewhere in their psychological make up or back ground. He will then chip away at that spot trying to force some sort of emotional blow up. This is a form of bullying of course which Harry seems to find amusing for some reason. It would be all too easy to compile a list of some of his past victims that he has driven from this group. Mr Hypocrite himself, drooling over with false concern for the down trodden of the world, getting his jollies by trying to push people over the edge. It's pretty sick behavior and typical for a sociopath. When no one seems to be rising to the bait, Harry will invent a new sock puppet or invite a few "friends" over from some other group. The antidote for all this is to just cut him off and ignore the sock puppets when they becme known. |
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@r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says... On Apr 21, 11:46*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' But the same is true of Muslims, but to listen to the right wingers here, you'd not know that. |
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says... On 4/21/2013 6:36 PM, Hank© wrote: On 4/21/2013 5:55 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. How about anti religious folks. Do you suppose a few of them are acting in hateful extreme ways, say, for instance, you? I bet 99% of the murder in this country is by non-active or non-christians... You'd lose that bet. |
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:07:25 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 4/21/13 3:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 11:46 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? There's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...-suspect-praye... There's a difference between the allegedly radical Muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? You look at extremism in a different way than I. There's wacko's and perverts out there, no doubt. But to me, that's not 'christian extremism.' If they say they are christians and are acting in hateful, extreme ways, they sure as hell are no different than radical muslim extremists who act the same way. Same, same. ----------------------------------------- There are radical Christian extremists who break laws. Radical Muslim extremists are abiding by their laws. That's the difference. If your goal is to denigrate Christians, regardless of facts, and to garner attention, then rational, logical arguments are pointless. As will be seen. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
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says... On 4/21/2013 12:39 AM, wrote: On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 13:04:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 12:25:33 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Where did I ever paint all Muslims with the Jihadist brush. The uncle in Montgomery County was disgusted too. You said he "certainly looks the part of a Jihadist". What does a Jihadist look like? A guy with a bomb strapped to his chest? So... in the picture you saw of the guy he looked like he had a bomb strapped to his chest???? Really?? Also, your assumption would mean that all terrorists are Jihadists? In this case he was a muslim extremist associated with a radical group in Dagistan. and that qualifies as a jihadist to me. What I said on day one... it's just that harry doesn't pay attention beyond the talking points... Uninformed and unreasonable, that's our harry krause You liar!!! YOU said they were "hipster punks"!!!!! |
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says... On 4/21/2013 12:46 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 4/21/13 12:35 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 21, 7:59 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Radical muslim extremists, radical christian extremists, what's the difference? Ther3e's a huge difference, Harry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3120145.html There's a difference between the allegedly radical muslim extremists who set off the bombs in Boston and the radical christian extremists who blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors? Yes... one is prevalent, and accepted by their leaders, one is an anomaly, carried out by those who have strayed... This proves that the only things you know about the Muslim religion is what FOX has told you to believe. |
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