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On 4/17/2013 3:18 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 4/17/13 3:00 PM, J Herring wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:31:53 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/17/13 8:00 AM, Tim wrote: On Apr 16, 3:04 pm, J Herring wrote: I'm looking seriously! http://tinyurl.com/cpkd7td Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! May as well, John. Kimbers are extremely well crafted. they're higher priced than most but there's a reason for it. I believe they're built with closer detail to specs.. They definitely keep their value. Waste of money. What Herring needs: http://tinyurl.com/cvwsvfl You're probably right about whatever this is ESAD. I just wish I were half as knowledgeable, capable, experienced, truthful and overwhelmingly awesome as you are. It's no wonder you have some of the followers you do. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. The only decent buddy you have here is Tim. The rest of your buddies are right-wing trash. You are trash.. All you do is come here all day and night spreading your own ****ing misery. What the **** ever happened to you to make you so hateful and nasty krause? |
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:45:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"J Herring" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:06:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "J Herring" wrote in message . .. =============== John, I was just about ready to "pull the trigger" on a S&W 1911. I wanted one more handgun with a little more umfffhh in my small collection. This past Monday a couple of friends of mine and I went to the range to try out a new gun one of them had just purchased. He had a S&W 1911 with him and also a new S&W 600 series (I think it was a 686) revolver that fires .357 Magnum rounds. I tried both of them. I really liked the 1911 and found it to be very accurate, mainly because of the straight trigger pull, I think. But then I tried the revolver and the decision was made. I particularly like revolvers and this one was nice! His is a standard production version with an unusual 7 round cylinder. He told me that a gun shop in downtown Plymouth had a Model 627 "Performance Center" version. It has a slightly shorter barrel, an eight round cylinder and supposedly goes through a custom setup at the S&W. To make a long story short, I booked it down to Plymouth and got it. Silky smooth action compared to the standard version and the trigger pull in single action mode is almost a mental thought than a physical pull. Will fire .357 Magnum and .38 Special +P ammo. Took some pictures of it that may be viewed he (dollar bill for size reference) http://www.pangeaacres.net/sitebuilder/images/DSC_8644-820x562.jpg http://www.pangeaacres.net/sitebuilder/images/DSC_8639-823x600.jpg http://www.pangeaacres.net/sitebuilder/images/DSC_8643-808x541.jpg http://www.pangeaacres.net/sitebuilder/images/DSC_8645-818x544.jpg http://www.pangeaacres.net/sitebuilder/images/grip-812x656.jpg That is a beautiful gun. Same as this, right: http://tinyurl.com/c5k7tpe Bud's Guns has this S&W 1911 for sale right now. I'm about to jump on it. The Kimber I was looking at sold this morning, while I was playing golf. Oh well. http://tinyurl.com/czz2gjq Buds has it for a couple hundred less than the MSRP. http://tinyurl.com/cktk23p ---------------------------------------------------- Looks the same except for the grip. Maybe all the grips are different because they are wood. I like the S&W 1911's a lot. I've tried two different ones at the range and both were accurate and smooth in operation. Never tried a Kimber mainly because we can't get them here in MA. Not MA compliant. The 627 is equipped with a key safety which I guess is why it's on the MA compliant list. I doubt I'll never use it unless required for travel, if they ever introduce universal, interstate travel laws. Here's what the NRA says: "Federal law does not restrict individuals (except convicted felons; persons under indictment for felonies; adjudicated “mental defectives” or those who have been involuntarily committed to mental institutions; illegal drug users; illegal aliens and most nonimmigrant aliens; dishonorably discharged veterans; those who have renounced their U.S. citizenship; fugitives from justice; persons convicted of misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence; and persons subject to domestic violence restraining orders) from transporting legally acquired firearms across state lines for lawful purposes. Therefore, no federal permit is required (or available) for the interstate transportation of firearms. Many states and localities have laws governing the transportation of firearms. Travelers must be aware of these laws and comply with legal requirements in each jurisdiction. There is no uniform state transportation procedure for firearms. If in doubt, a traveler should carry firearms unloaded, locked in a case, and stored in an area (such as a trunk or attached toolbox) where they are inaccessible from a vehicle’s passenger compartment and not visible from outside the vehicle. Any ammunition should be stored in a separate locked container." http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/artic...portation.aspx Even with that, some states, like New Jersey, are pretty strict about any possession. But. I think leaving one in the RV while traveling would be pretty safe. There is always that 'probable cause' bit before they can search the trailer. I've put this URL here before, but in case you didn't see it: http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws.aspx Scroll about midway down and you can click on a state to see which states honor the concealed carry permit. Lastly, have you fired any .357's through that pistol yet? Try loading a few .38s and .357s interspersed. Better yet, have someone else load the chambers so you don't know where the different rounds are. Then shoot. My cop brother did that for me with mine on a range. What a difference. He suggested it as a means of overcoming a tendency to flinch or grip more tightly when firing a .357 round. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
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"J Herring" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:45:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I like the S&W 1911's a lot. I've tried two different ones at the range and both were accurate and smooth in operation. Never tried a Kimber mainly because we can't get them here in MA. Not MA compliant. The 627 is equipped with a key safety which I guess is why it's on the MA compliant list. I doubt I'll never use it unless required for travel, if they ever introduce universal, interstate travel laws. Here's what the NRA says: "Federal law does not restrict individuals (except convicted felons; persons under indictment for felonies; adjudicated “mental defectives” or those who have been involuntarily committed to mental institutions; illegal drug users; illegal aliens and most nonimmigrant aliens; dishonorably discharged veterans; those who have renounced their U.S. citizenship; fugitives from justice; persons convicted of misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence; and persons subject to domestic violence restraining orders) from transporting legally acquired firearms across state lines for lawful purposes. Therefore, no federal permit is required (or available) for the interstate transportation of firearms. Many states and localities have laws governing the transportation of firearms. Travelers must be aware of these laws and comply with legal requirements in each jurisdiction. There is no uniform state transportation procedure for firearms. If in doubt, a traveler should carry firearms unloaded, locked in a case, and stored in an area (such as a trunk or attached toolbox) where they are inaccessible from a vehicle’s passenger compartment and not visible from outside the vehicle. Any ammunition should be stored in a separate locked container." http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/artic...portation.aspx Even with that, some states, like New Jersey, are pretty strict about any possession. But. I think leaving one in the RV while traveling would be pretty safe. There is always that 'probable cause' bit before they can search the trailer. I've put this URL here before, but in case you didn't see it: http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws.aspx Scroll about midway down and you can click on a state to see which states honor the concealed carry permit. Lastly, have you fired any .357's through that pistol yet? Try loading a few .38s and .357s interspersed. Better yet, have someone else load the chambers so you don't know where the different rounds are. Then shoot. My cop brother did that for me with mine on a range. What a difference. He suggested it as a means of overcoming a tendency to flinch or grip more tightly when firing a .357 round. ------------------------------------------------ I know there is no federal law that prohibits interstate travel with a firearm but the individual states ... and some cities (like NYC) have some very rigid and often confusing regulations. To the best I can determine, I cannot legally travel from MA to SC or FL without being in violation in at least in some states. I am sure it is done, but at the risk of being arrested in the event you happen to be caught by a unreasonable cop. Some types of RV's fall into another category, meaning a "house" but some are not. Local and state laws and regulations are confusing and conflicting. I think the Senate made a huge mistake in not passing the universal background check bill. As gun owners we need to demonstrate a willingness to have some common sense regulations, especially when they don't have any impact on responsible, law abiding citizens. My state already has background checks, bans on high capacity magazines and restricts the types of guns that may be sold. Other than making some nice guns unavailable, there is nothing in the current MA laws that restrict or impede my ability to own or carry a gun. The nonsense about generating a "national registry" out of the background check requirement was exactly that .... nonsense. The bill specifically included prohibiting the creation of a registry, punishable by many years in jail. What the results of the vote proved is that we have a bunch of selfish, self-serving, ass protecting slime balls in Congress who should all lose their reelection bids, both Republicans and Democrats. I think the public's backlash will result in much more restrictive gun control measures that *will* succeed in the near future. They should have passed the bill. Yeah, we tried alternating .357 Magnums and .38 Specials in the cylinder in my friend's revolver at the range. .38 Special +P's are fairly potent rounds but they still didn't compare to the .357 Magnum rounds. Very noticeable difference. |
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Speaking about 357magnum handguns...My BVI buddy called this morning.
He got a notice from the Toronto Police that a 357 magnum that was stolen from his Halifax home 35 years ago just turned up in Toronto, about 1200 miles west of here. The three choices given my buddy... Update his Firearms accusition certificate and his gun possession certificates to get the gun back... Let the Toronto Police destroy the weapon.. Or have a gunsmith up there disable the gun so it can't shoot and then ship to Halifax. Only detail he received on the guns condition is that it has rust present. Now he has to decide without seeing the weapon. |
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On 4/18/13 10:49 AM, True North wrote:
Speaking about 357magnum handguns...My BVI buddy called this morning. He got a notice from the Toronto Police that a 357 magnum that was stolen from his Halifax home 35 years ago just turned up in Toronto, about 1200 miles west of here. The three choices given my buddy... Update his Firearms accusition certificate and his gun possession certificates to get the gun back... Let the Toronto Police destroy the weapon.. Or have a gunsmith up there disable the gun so it can't shoot and then ship to Halifax. Only detail he received on the guns condition is that it has rust present. Now he has to decide without seeing the weapon. Wow. I like that sort of bureaucratic efficiency. I wonder if the pistol was used in a crime after it was stolen. |
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On 4/18/2013 10:49 AM, True North wrote:
Speaking about 357magnum handguns...My BVI buddy called this morning. He got a notice from the Toronto Police that a 357 magnum that was stolen from his Halifax home 35 years ago just turned up in Toronto, about 1200 miles west of here. The three choices given my buddy... Update his Firearms accusition certificate and his gun possession certificates to get the gun back... Let the Toronto Police destroy the weapon.. Or have a gunsmith up there disable the gun so it can't shoot and then ship to Halifax. Only detail he received on the guns condition is that it has rust present. Now he has to decide without seeing the weapon. Not very good choices. If you were a buddy, you'd do something to help him get his gun back. |
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On 4/18/13 3:22 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 08:42:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "J Herring" wrote in message ... snipped ------------------------------------------------ I know there is no federal law that prohibits interstate travel with a firearm but the individual states ... and some cities (like NYC) have some very rigid and often confusing regulations. To the best I can determine, I cannot legally travel from MA to SC or FL without being in violation in at least in some states. I am sure it is done, but at the risk of being arrested in the event you happen to be caught by a unreasonable cop. Some types of RV's fall into another category, meaning a "house" but some are not. Local and state laws and regulations are confusing and conflicting. I think the Senate made a huge mistake in not passing the universal background check bill. As gun owners we need to demonstrate a willingness to have some common sense regulations, especially when they don't have any impact on responsible, law abiding citizens. I bought my .45 this morning as mentioned in another thread. I completed the ATF Form 4473, and an employee used the eform ( http://www.atf.gov/applications/e4473/faq.html ) to get the background check results. Took about five minutes. If the bill that failed in the Senate had been limited to what I went through, I'd say go for it. But, the Senate bill, in my opinion, was far to onerous with its requirements for individuals transferring a weapon. I shouldn't have to wait for some kind of approval process or anything else to sell or give a weapon to my brother, for example. Even if someone's brother is a violent criminal and wife beater? |
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 07:49:47 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
Speaking about 357magnum handguns...My BVI buddy called this morning. He got a notice from the Toronto Police that a 357 magnum that was stolen from his Halifax home 35 years ago just turned up in Toronto, about 1200 miles west of here. The three choices given my buddy... Update his Firearms accusition certificate and his gun possession certificates to get the gun back... Let the Toronto Police destroy the weapon.. Or have a gunsmith up there disable the gun so it can't shoot and then ship to Halifax. Only detail he received on the guns condition is that it has rust present. Now he has to decide without seeing the weapon. Easy, update the paperwork, get the weapon back, and then decide what to do with it. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:21:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/18/13 3:22 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 08:42:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "J Herring" wrote in message ... snipped ------------------------------------------------ I know there is no federal law that prohibits interstate travel with a firearm but the individual states ... and some cities (like NYC) have some very rigid and often confusing regulations. To the best I can determine, I cannot legally travel from MA to SC or FL without being in violation in at least in some states. I am sure it is done, but at the risk of being arrested in the event you happen to be caught by a unreasonable cop. Some types of RV's fall into another category, meaning a "house" but some are not. Local and state laws and regulations are confusing and conflicting. I think the Senate made a huge mistake in not passing the universal background check bill. As gun owners we need to demonstrate a willingness to have some common sense regulations, especially when they don't have any impact on responsible, law abiding citizens. I bought my .45 this morning as mentioned in another thread. I completed the ATF Form 4473, and an employee used the eform ( http://www.atf.gov/applications/e4473/faq.html ) to get the background check results. Took about five minutes. If the bill that failed in the Senate had been limited to what I went through, I'd say go for it. But, the Senate bill, in my opinion, was far to onerous with its requirements for individuals transferring a weapon. I shouldn't have to wait for some kind of approval process or anything else to sell or give a weapon to my brother, for example. Even if someone's brother is a violent criminal and wife beater? Whose brother? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
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