If Hillary, We're Toast
 

Scratch the surface of a gathering of Republican operatives and you'll
find some serious fear (you don't have to scratch the surface to find
loathing). Fear, specifically, of Hillary Clinton. Time's Zeke Miller
went to the Republican National Committee's spring meeting and found
"more than two dozen operatives and officials [who] expressed worry that
none of their party’s potential 2016 candidates can take her down."

One early primary state RNC member put it simply: “If she gets in,
we’re toast.” [...]

And one former Romney aide here warned that grassroots activists
pushing for an even more conservative GOP identity could seal the
party’s fate: “If we listen to some of the people here and come back
with a hardline conservative in 2016, she’ll wipe the floor with us.”

It's early yet and things can always change, but given all the
Republican rebranding fail going on here lately, they have good reason
to worry. In general. When it comes to Hillary Clinton, fear is the
right emotion.

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Make it so, Hills... :)

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:27:42 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Got 'Special Circumstances', FOAD?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On 4/12/13 2:06 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:27:42 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Scratch the surface of a gathering of Republican operatives and you'll
find some serious fear (you don't have to scratch the surface to find
loathing). Fear, specifically, of Hillary Clinton. Time's Zeke Miller
went to the Republican National Committee's spring meeting and found
"more than two dozen operatives and officials [who] expressed worry that
none of their party’s potential 2016 candidates can take her down."

One early primary state RNC member put it simply: “If she gets in,
we’re toast.� [...]

And one former Romney aide here warned that grassroots activists
pushing for an even more conservative GOP identity could seal the
party’s fate: “If we listen to some of the people here and come back
with a hardline conservative in 2016, she’ll wipe the floor with us.�

It's early yet and things can always change, but given all the
Republican rebranding fail going on here lately, they have good reason
to worry. In general. When it comes to Hillary Clinton, fear is the
right emotion.

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Swiped from KOS

Make it so, Hills... :)

She will be the same age as Reagan when she would be inaugurated.
Wouldn't the same people be saying she was too old?
They might bring up health concerns too.
My guess is she won't run anyway.


I don't think she will, either, but I love how she is giving the GOP the
****s. I wonder if Elizabeth Warren will move on up. She's asking all
the right questions in her Senate committee and making the banksters and
their non-regulating regulators squirm.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:24:57 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Hilary Clinton backed the invasion of Iraq against the opinion of her
constituency, the voters of New York, and that cost her the presidency. She
will founder on the same rock again.

Maybe, maybe not. It's one issue. She was wrong. She admitted it.
There's plenty of dirt on Clinton. She's been pretty well vetted over
the years, and she did an outstanding job as SecState.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On 4/12/13 4:24 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...

Hilary Clinton backed the invasion of Iraq against the opinion of her
constituency, the voters of New York, and that cost her the presidency. She
will founder on the same rock again.


Yeah, right, Mrs. Clinton so turned off her constituents in New York
State that she won 67% of the popular vote when she sought re-election,
compared to 55% in her first term.

Where do you righties get these nonsense ideas?

At the moment, if she decides she wants the nomination, it is hers, and
there isn't a Republican at the moment who could defeat her. It's along
way to the nomination and election, of course, so let the right-wing
craziness continue.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:49:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/12/13 4:24 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...

Hilary Clinton backed the invasion of Iraq against the opinion of her
constituency, the voters of New York, and that cost her the presidency. She
will founder on the same rock again.


Yeah, right, Mrs. Clinton so turned off her constituents in New York
State that she won 67% of the popular vote when she sought re-election,
compared to 55% in her first term.

Where do you righties get these nonsense ideas?

At the moment, if she decides she wants the nomination, it is hers, and
there isn't a Republican at the moment who could defeat her. It's along
way to the nomination and election, of course, so let the right-wing
craziness continue.

As well as the Democrats have fixed the next election, only pure stupidity could cause them to lose.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On 4/12/13 6:57 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:49:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/12/13 4:24 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...

Hilary Clinton backed the invasion of Iraq against the opinion of her
constituency, the voters of New York, and that cost her the presidency. She
will founder on the same rock again.


Yeah, right, Mrs. Clinton so turned off her constituents in New York
State that she won 67% of the popular vote when she sought re-election,
compared to 55% in her first term.

Where do you righties get these nonsense ideas?

At the moment, if she decides she wants the nomination, it is hers, and
there isn't a Republican at the moment who could defeat her. It's along
way to the nomination and election, of course, so let the right-wing
craziness continue.

As well as the Democrats have fixed the next election, only pure stupidity could cause them to lose.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Ohhh. Herring channels Scotty

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:01:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/12/13 6:57 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:49:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/12/13 4:24 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...

Hilary Clinton backed the invasion of Iraq against the opinion of her
constituency, the voters of New York, and that cost her the presidency. She
will founder on the same rock again.


Yeah, right, Mrs. Clinton so turned off her constituents in New York
State that she won 67% of the popular vote when she sought re-election,
compared to 55% in her first term.

Where do you righties get these nonsense ideas?

At the moment, if she decides she wants the nomination, it is hers, and
there isn't a Republican at the moment who could defeat her. It's along
way to the nomination and election, of course, so let the right-wing
craziness continue.

As well as the Democrats have fixed the next election, only pure stupidity could cause them to lose.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Ohhh. Herring channels Scotty

You think with all the giveaways, the rigged elections, the fighting against voter ID, the illegal
alien citizenship, Obamacare, Obamaphones, etc, that the Democrats could lose?

Ain't no channeling anywhere!

BTW, Got 'special circumstances'?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On 4/12/13 8:07 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:01:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/12/13 6:57 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:49:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/12/13 4:24 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...

Hilary Clinton backed the invasion of Iraq against the opinion of her
constituency, the voters of New York, and that cost her the presidency. She
will founder on the same rock again.


Yeah, right, Mrs. Clinton so turned off her constituents in New York
State that she won 67% of the popular vote when she sought re-election,
compared to 55% in her first term.

Where do you righties get these nonsense ideas?

At the moment, if she decides she wants the nomination, it is hers, and
there isn't a Republican at the moment who could defeat her. It's along
way to the nomination and election, of course, so let the right-wing
craziness continue.

As well as the Democrats have fixed the next election, only pure stupidity could cause them to lose.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Ohhh. Herring channels Scotty

You think with all the giveaways, the rigged elections, the fighting against voter ID, the illegal
alien citizenship, Obamacare, Obamaphones, etc, that the Democrats could lose?

Ain't no channeling anywhere!

BTW, Got 'special circumstances'?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


If the Dems win again, it will not only be because it doesn't field a
crazy candidate, it will be that the Republicans have managed to keep
intact all the groups they've insulted to the point that the party is a
poison pill to the voters.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On 4/13/2013 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:49:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/12/13 4:24 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...

Hilary Clinton backed the invasion of Iraq against the opinion of her
constituency, the voters of New York, and that cost her the presidency. She
will founder on the same rock again.


Yeah, right, Mrs. Clinton so turned off her constituents in New York
State that she won 67% of the popular vote when she sought re-election,
compared to 55% in her first term.

Where do you righties get these nonsense ideas?

At the moment, if she decides she wants the nomination, it is hers, and
there isn't a Republican at the moment who could defeat her. It's along
way to the nomination and election, of course, so let the right-wing
craziness continue.

Hillary is a neocon and the neocons are pro Israel.
Why wouldn't she do well in New York?


What's the alternative? Progressive?
Def: Becoming more seve describes a disease that becomes more
widespread or severe over time.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On 4/13/13 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:33:42 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 4/13/2013 12:22 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:49:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/12/13 4:24 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...

Hilary Clinton backed the invasion of Iraq against the opinion of her
constituency, the voters of New York, and that cost her the presidency. She
will founder on the same rock again.


Yeah, right, Mrs. Clinton so turned off her constituents in New York
State that she won 67% of the popular vote when she sought re-election,
compared to 55% in her first term.

Where do you righties get these nonsense ideas?

At the moment, if she decides she wants the nomination, it is hers, and
there isn't a Republican at the moment who could defeat her. It's along
way to the nomination and election, of course, so let the right-wing
craziness continue.

Hillary is a neocon and the neocons are pro Israel.
Why wouldn't she do well in New York?


What's the alternative? Progressive?
Def: Becoming more seve describes a disease that becomes more
widespread or severe over time.

If we don't come up with some sibilance of justice for the
Palestinians we are going to be doomed to another century of war
there.


Agreed, but I am not sure "justice" for the Palestinians will calm down
the crazies among them.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:27:42 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Got 'Special Circumstances', FOAD?


Salmonbait

Got "polymers", Racist John?

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On 4/13/2013 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:57:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/13/13 11:16 AM, wrote:

If we don't come up with some sibilance of justice for the
Palestinians we are going to be doomed to another century of war
there.


Agreed, but I am not sure "justice" for the Palestinians will calm down
the crazies among them.

It would go a long way toward making peace in that region.
The West bank is the last vestige of European colonialism.


Are you serious? Even if we gave them Israel, killed all the Israelis,
they would still not change a bit. Their phony leaders "need" to make us
the enemy so they can justify living like Kings and letting the rest eat
cake as it were...

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

In article ,
says...

On 4/13/2013 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:57:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/13/13 11:16 AM, wrote:

If we don't come up with some sibilance of justice for the
Palestinians we are going to be doomed to another century of war
there.


Agreed, but I am not sure "justice" for the Palestinians will calm down
the crazies among them.

It would go a long way toward making peace in that region.
The West bank is the last vestige of European colonialism.


Are you serious? Even if we gave them Israel, killed all the Israelis,
they would still not change a bit. Their phony leaders "need" to make us
the enemy so they can justify living like Kings and letting the rest eat
cake as it were...

The Palestinians are living like kings??? Are you a complete moron or
what?

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On 4/13/13 12:34 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/13/2013 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:57:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/13/13 11:16 AM, wrote:

If we don't come up with some sibilance of justice for the
Palestinians we are going to be doomed to another century of war
there.


Agreed, but I am not sure "justice" for the Palestinians will calm down
the crazies among them.

It would go a long way toward making peace in that region.
The West bank is the last vestige of European colonialism.


Are you serious? Even if we gave them Israel, killed all the Israelis,
they would still not change a bit. Their phony leaders "need" to make us
the enemy so they can justify living like Kings and letting the rest eat
cake as it were...

You're not qualified in any may to make such a judgment. You don't even
know or understand what is happening in your own country.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:22:59 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:49:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/12/13 4:24 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...

Hilary Clinton backed the invasion of Iraq against the opinion of her
constituency, the voters of New York, and that cost her the presidency. She
will founder on the same rock again.


Yeah, right, Mrs. Clinton so turned off her constituents in New York
State that she won 67% of the popular vote when she sought re-election,
compared to 55% in her first term.

Where do you righties get these nonsense ideas?

At the moment, if she decides she wants the nomination, it is hers, and
there isn't a Republican at the moment who could defeat her. It's along
way to the nomination and election, of course, so let the right-wing
craziness continue.

Hillary is a neocon and the neocons are pro Israel.
Why wouldn't she do well in New York?

Huh? Have you got your no-insanity booster? You're due.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:24:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:57:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/13/13 11:16 AM, wrote:

If we don't come up with some sibilance of justice for the
Palestinians we are going to be doomed to another century of war
there.


Agreed, but I am not sure "justice" for the Palestinians will calm down
the crazies among them.

It would go a long way toward making peace in that region.
The West bank is the last vestige of European colonialism.

Maybe. That's not clear at all. It wouldn't hurt and it's a good
thing, but there will always be some other excuse.

If Hillary, We're Toast
 

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:14:57 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:34:20 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 4/13/2013 12:24 PM, wrote:

Agreed, but I am not sure "justice" for the Palestinians will calm down
the crazies among them.

It would go a long way toward making peace in that region.
The West bank is the last vestige of European colonialism.


Are you serious? Even if we gave them Israel, killed all the Israelis,
they would still not change a bit. Their phony leaders "need" to make us
the enemy so they can justify living like Kings and letting the rest eat
cake as it were...

If we were not propping up Israel we would not have any national
interest there and we could just sit over here and ignore them ...
like we do the crazies in Africa.
We get more oil from Nigeria than we get from the middle east and I
don't see us getting involved with their problems. Venezuela either.

Right. One more Holocaust among friends, what the heck.