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Rob October 10th 03 01:34 PM

Replacing Head Lines
 
I am about to take on the glorious task of replacing my Head waste
lines and had a question- I realize I need to use the rather expensive
odor-blocking hose for the head but is it possible or recommendable to
use any PVC tubing in the mix? I was thinking of using it to run a
straight line to the back of the boat where the waste-deck fitting is-
using the odor-hose the attach the PVC to the deck fitting on one end
& the Y valve on the other (my tank, macerator and head are located
towards the bow of the boat). Another run of PVC would be to and from
the holding tank (actually located in the bow)- again joined at each
end with the flexible odor-hose. Also may use it to run the vent line.
Any thoughts on using PVC with the odor hose to join/seal it in?

Rick \(Saga 35\) October 10th 03 09:28 PM

Replacing Head Lines
 
Sure, use leaky hose so your boat stinks. Brilliant. If you really want to
save money, just let it flow right into the bilge.


I am about to take on the glorious task of replacing my Head waste
lines and had a question- I realize I need to use the rather expensive
odor-blocking hose for the head but is it possible or recommendable to
use any PVC tubing in the mix? I was thinking of using it to run a
straight line to the back of the boat where the waste-deck fitting is-
using the odor-hose the attach the PVC to the deck fitting on one end
& the Y valve on the other (my tank, macerator and head are located
towards the bow of the boat). Another run of PVC would be to and from
the holding tank (actually located in the bow)- again joined at each
end with the flexible odor-hose. Also may use it to run the vent line.
Any thoughts on using PVC with the odor hose to join/seal it in?




DB October 11th 03 07:26 AM

Replacing Head Lines
 
Rob:

The key in marine holding tank lines is flexibility and PVC is mean for land
side projects where things move less. Don't go cheap on this one!

BTW: Disregard the chump and his "smart" answer earlier. Seems all NG's have
one or two of 'em. :-)

Dan


"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I am about to take on the glorious task of replacing my Head waste
lines and had a question- I realize I need to use the rather expensive
odor-blocking hose for the head but is it possible or recommendable to
use any PVC tubing in the mix? I was thinking of using it to run a
straight line to the back of the boat where the waste-deck fitting is-
using the odor-hose the attach the PVC to the deck fitting on one end
& the Y valve on the other (my tank, macerator and head are located
towards the bow of the boat). Another run of PVC would be to and from
the holding tank (actually located in the bow)- again joined at each
end with the flexible odor-hose. Also may use it to run the vent line.
Any thoughts on using PVC with the odor hose to join/seal it in?




Jeff Morris October 11th 03 07:07 PM

Replacing Head Lines
 
If your holding tank is in the bow, why is the pumpout in the stern?


"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I am about to take on the glorious task of replacing my Head waste
lines and had a question- I realize I need to use the rather expensive
odor-blocking hose for the head but is it possible or recommendable to
use any PVC tubing in the mix? I was thinking of using it to run a
straight line to the back of the boat where the waste-deck fitting is-
using the odor-hose the attach the PVC to the deck fitting on one end
& the Y valve on the other (my tank, macerator and head are located
towards the bow of the boat). Another run of PVC would be to and from
the holding tank (actually located in the bow)- again joined at each
end with the flexible odor-hose. Also may use it to run the vent line.
Any thoughts on using PVC with the odor hose to join/seal it in?




DB October 14th 03 12:19 AM

Replacing Head Lines
 
Yah, what about that Rob? Why pump the nastiness the full length of your
boat anyway?

I have to tell you about a chat I had with Larry and Linn Pardey a few weeks
ago. We were at the Wooden Boat festival in Port Townsend, Washington. The
Pardeys are REAL role models for my mate and I. They have lived on a
gorgeous home built 28 foot wooden cutter for the last 17 years while they
have casually circumnavigated the globe. We had the privilege of going
aboard this stunning "liveaboard" for a look see.
Guess what? NO HEAD. Larry believes that the two most frequent causes of
vessel loss are the engine and the head. He has neither and doesn't seem to
miss 'em. He has a very elegant porta-potty arrangement that works just
fine.
My holding tank has the stinks again and I'm debating on whether to replace
the hoses and tank next year or just mimic the masters.

Dan Bessmer
www.courselinepc.com

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
If your holding tank is in the bow, why is the pumpout in the stern?


"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I am about to take on the glorious task of replacing my Head waste
lines and had a question- I realize I need to use the rather expensive
odor-blocking hose for the head but is it possible or recommendable to
use any PVC tubing in the mix? I was thinking of using it to run a
straight line to the back of the boat where the waste-deck fitting is-
using the odor-hose the attach the PVC to the deck fitting on one end
& the Y valve on the other (my tank, macerator and head are located
towards the bow of the boat). Another run of PVC would be to and from
the holding tank (actually located in the bow)- again joined at each
end with the flexible odor-hose. Also may use it to run the vent line.
Any thoughts on using PVC with the odor hose to join/seal it in?






padeen October 14th 03 06:01 PM

Replacing Head Lines; Very Revealing!
 
Hmmm.... I don't have indoor plumbing in my home now, and haven't had it
for 12 years, I find this revelation quite intriguing, and worth my
consideration as I move from land-based to boat-based habits. How does this
porta-potty setup fly with various port authorities?
I'm also fascinated with exclusive use of sails as per circa 1860 (or so),
having had considerable experience with motors and their funny little
surprises. I've been told to search out the Pardey's writing; seems I have
additional incentive now.
Thanks, Dan.
Padeen


"DB" wrote in message
...
Yah, what about that Rob? Why pump the nastiness the full length of your
boat anyway?

I have to tell you about a chat I had with Larry and Linn Pardey a few

weeks
ago. We were at the Wooden Boat festival in Port Townsend, Washington. The
Pardeys are REAL role models for my mate and I. They have lived on a
gorgeous home built 28 foot wooden cutter for the last 17 years while they
have casually circumnavigated the globe. We had the privilege of going
aboard this stunning "liveaboard" for a look see.
Guess what? NO HEAD. Larry believes that the two most frequent causes of
vessel loss are the engine and the head. He has neither and doesn't seem

to
miss 'em. He has a very elegant porta-potty arrangement that works just
fine.
My holding tank has the stinks again and I'm debating on whether to

replace
the hoses and tank next year or just mimic the masters.

Dan Bessmer
www.courselinepc.com

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
If your holding tank is in the bow, why is the pumpout in the stern?


"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I am about to take on the glorious task of replacing my Head waste
lines and had a question- I realize I need to use the rather expensive


odor-blocking hose for the head but is it possible or recommendable to
use any PVC tubing in the mix? I was thinking of using it to run a
straight line to the back of the boat where the waste-deck fitting is-
using the odor-hose the attach the PVC to the deck fitting on one end
& the Y valve on the other (my tank, macerator and head are located
towards the bow of the boat). Another run of PVC would be to and from
the holding tank (actually located in the bow)- again joined at each
end with the flexible odor-hose. Also may use it to run the vent line.
Any thoughts on using PVC with the odor hose to join/seal it in?








Rob October 15th 03 10:22 PM

Replacing Head Lines
 
Thanks for the replies- The pump-out fitting is located towards the
stern next to the diesel fill- Don't ask...it came that way and it
makes no sense. I hate drilling new holes in the deck so I plan on
leaving it back there.

Rob

"DB" wrote in message ...
Yah, what about that Rob? Why pump the nastiness the full length of your
boat anyway?

I have to tell you about a chat I had with Larry and Linn Pardey a few weeks
ago. We were at the Wooden Boat festival in Port Townsend, Washington. The
Pardeys are REAL role models for my mate and I. They have lived on a
gorgeous home built 28 foot wooden cutter for the last 17 years while they
have casually circumnavigated the globe. We had the privilege of going
aboard this stunning "liveaboard" for a look see.
Guess what? NO HEAD. Larry believes that the two most frequent causes of
vessel loss are the engine and the head. He has neither and doesn't seem to
miss 'em. He has a very elegant porta-potty arrangement that works just
fine.
My holding tank has the stinks again and I'm debating on whether to replace
the hoses and tank next year or just mimic the masters.

Dan Bessmer
www.courselinepc.com

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
If your holding tank is in the bow, why is the pumpout in the stern?


"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I am about to take on the glorious task of replacing my Head waste
lines and had a question- I realize I need to use the rather expensive
odor-blocking hose for the head but is it possible or recommendable to
use any PVC tubing in the mix? I was thinking of using it to run a
straight line to the back of the boat where the waste-deck fitting is-
using the odor-hose the attach the PVC to the deck fitting on one end
& the Y valve on the other (my tank, macerator and head are located
towards the bow of the boat). Another run of PVC would be to and from
the holding tank (actually located in the bow)- again joined at each
end with the flexible odor-hose. Also may use it to run the vent line.
Any thoughts on using PVC with the odor hose to join/seal it in?




Pockets of Resistance October 15th 03 10:56 PM

Replacing Head Lines
 
On 15 Oct 2003 14:22:21 -0700, (Rob) wrote:

Thanks for the replies- The pump-out fitting is located towards the
stern next to the diesel fill- Don't ask...it came that way and it
makes no sense. I hate drilling new holes in the deck so I plan on
leaving it back there.


Boy, you'd hate to mix those up.

Parallax October 16th 03 04:47 AM

Replacing Head Lines
 
Pockets of Resistance wrote in message . ..
On 15 Oct 2003 14:22:21 -0700, (Rob) wrote:

Thanks for the replies- The pump-out fitting is located towards the
stern next to the diesel fill- Don't ask...it came that way and it
makes no sense. I hate drilling new holes in the deck so I plan on
leaving it back there.


Boy, you'd hate to mix those up.


One day, I realized that I spent more time working on the head
plumbing than on all other of my boat systems put together. The
solution was obvious. I took everything out and replaced it with a
porta-potti and have been free of problems since. Then I gave the
head to one friend and the holding tank to another. They actually
thought I did them a favor.

Basil P October 16th 03 03:07 PM

Replacing Head Lines
 
On 15 Oct 2003 14:22:21 -0700, (Rob) wrote:

Thanks for the replies- The pump-out fitting is located towards the
stern next to the diesel fill- Don't ask...it came that way and it
makes no sense. I hate drilling new holes in the deck so I plan on
leaving it back there.

Rob

"DB" wrote in message ...
Yah, what about that Rob? Why pump the nastiness the full length of your
boat anyway?

I have to tell you about a chat I had with Larry and Linn Pardey a few weeks
ago. We were at the Wooden Boat festival in Port Townsend, Washington. The
Pardeys are REAL role models for my mate and I. They have lived on a
gorgeous home built 28 foot wooden cutter for the last 17 years while they
have casually circumnavigated the globe. We had the privilege of going
aboard this stunning "liveaboard" for a look see.
Guess what? NO HEAD. Larry believes that the two most frequent causes of
vessel loss are the engine and the head. He has neither and doesn't seem to
miss 'em. He has a very elegant porta-potty arrangement that works just
fine.
My holding tank has the stinks again and I'm debating on whether to replace
the hoses and tank next year or just mimic the masters.

Dan Bessmer
www.courselinepc.com

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
If your holding tank is in the bow, why is the pumpout in the stern?


"Rob" wrote in message
om...
I am about to take on the glorious task of replacing my Head waste
lines and had a question- I realize I need to use the rather expensive
odor-blocking hose for the head but is it possible or recommendable to
use any PVC tubing in the mix? I was thinking of using it to run a
straight line to the back of the boat where the waste-deck fitting is-
using the odor-hose the attach the PVC to the deck fitting on one end
& the Y valve on the other (my tank, macerator and head are located
towards the bow of the boat). Another run of PVC would be to and from
the holding tank (actually located in the bow)- again joined at each
end with the flexible odor-hose. Also may use it to run the vent line.
Any thoughts on using PVC with the odor hose to join/seal it in?



Believe me do not worry so much about drilling holes in your deck.
With the correct research, remove any deck coring and glassing over,
Then drill new hole for fitting. remove old fitting and move to new
hole. Glass over old hole.

The big thing is that you will remove most, if not all of your smell
problem, as well as creating a more efficient pump out set up. Plus
getting back some space under the sole.

Good Luck with what ever you choose.





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