Identifying a boat - what are the main parameters?
 

Grunff lifted the trapdoor, peered around and wrote:

What?? There is *nothing* wrong with crossposting under certain
circumstances. I'll spare you the long list of URLs detailing
how and when crossposting is appropriate; I'm sure you can
google for them yourself. If you have trouble finding them,
please let me know.

I am fully aware of the circumstances under which cross-posting *may* be
considered appropriate.

However, it remains confusing and generally unhelpful.

No amount of *helpful* links will alter this

Identifying a boat - what are the main parameters?
 

steveb wrote:

What?? There is *nothing* wrong with crossposting under certain
circumstances. I'll spare you the long list of URLs detailing
how and when crossposting is appropriate; I'm sure you can
google for them yourself. If you have trouble finding them,
please let me know.


I am fully aware of the circumstances under which cross-posting *may* be
considered appropriate.

And yet you somehow believe that this isn't one of them?

I'm trying to gather boat related information for both the UK
and the US. I looked at all the boat related groups available,
and picked u.r.s and a.s as the two most appropriate groups to
do this in.


However, it remains confusing and generally unhelpful.

Should I have multiposted??

I really don't understand your argument/grievance, and genuinely
want to. According to your logic, what should I have done?


No amount of *helpful* links will alter this

I said I'd spare you them and I did ;-)

--
Grunff

Identifying a boat - what are the main parameters?
 

Grunff lifted the trapdoor, peered around and wrote:

And yet you somehow believe that this isn't one of them?

Listen, I have no beef with you.

I am well aware that your post probably fits the category you mention.

However, just because you *can* do something, doesn't automatically mean it
is sensible to do it.

Cross posting causes confusion almost everytime it happens. Mainly because
of the way replies are handled. Some appear some don't, before you know it
whole threads are meaningless.

If you want to ask a question in a small number of groups, it is much
better to post to the individual groups.

just my 2c ... I have no more to say on the matter

Identifying a boat - what are the main parameters?
 

steveb wrote:

If you want to ask a question in a small number of groups, it is much
better to post to the individual groups.

I totally disagree with you I'm afraid. What you're referring to
is called multiposting, and is far more destructive and
confusing than crossposting.

Look, I'm not arguing for the sake of it - I like to think that
I use Usenet in a careful and considerate way, and I genuinely
believe that I did things the most appropriate way in
crossposting my question.

I know I said I wouldn't post any links, but rather than repeat
an explanation of why multiposting is bad, I will post just one
relevant link. Read it if you're interested, otherwise ignore it.

URL:http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html

--
Grunff

Identifying a boat - what are the main parameters?
 

"Simon Brooke" wrote in message
. uk...
"Wally" writes:

Grunff wrote:

It's beginning to sound like providing set selections for things
like builder and model will be impossible. They may have to be
free text fields.

Bad idea - too prone to error, typos, and varying interpretations on how
a
name should be entered (like full name, acronym, abbreviated). The net
result is a potential for variations which would make searching more
awkward, since the searcher would have to try and second-guess the
variations and typos.

Afreed, but in many cases it may be necessary to have a menu with
'other' in it and a type in field for the 'other's.

www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com

Love the domain name!


You could of course use: http://tinyurl.com/npzq instead - but it still
takes you nowhere!

Pete.

Identifying a boat - what are the main parameters?
 

Yeah, I am guilty of responding, while assuming it was a post to an
international site as opposed to the UK site as well. Hence my reply to my
own post.

DP
"steveb" wrote in message
...
"d parker" lifted the trapdoor,
peered
around and wrote:

Damn, It was a cross post form rec sailing. We can assume you are a pom
then?

Ahem!

Some of us know how to use our news readers :)

Identifying a boat - what are the main parameters?
 

Grunff wrote:

Sadly, I know nothing about boats. So I'm asking for your help. I need
to build up a list of important parameters than can be used to identify
a boat. Not too many, maybe 6 at the most.

Thank you all very much for your helpful responses, it's been
most enlightening.

--
Grunff

Identifying a boat - what are the main parameters?
 

In article , Grunff
writes
Dennis Pogson wrote:

Boats have names, unlike cars, so if I were to want to trace a
previously-owned boat, I would want to know 1) power or sail, 2) builder, 3)
type and size, 4) Present and past names of vessel, 5) Present owner's name
and contact details.

Thanks, that's very useful. A couple of Qs:

Type - is there a list of boat 'types', or would that list be so
diverse as to be useless?

Nearly all sailboats belong to a particular Class, even if they are
unique prototypes. A prototype is just a class which failed to thrive.

There are dinghy classes (eg National Twelve, Albacore) and keelboat
classes (eg Hunter 22, Dehler 39). And multihull (catamaran and
trimaran) classes. Sometimes the Class name includes the manufacturer's
name, sometimes the designers name (Wharram 22, Humphreys 34), sometimes
it is a traditional class name (Bembridge Redwing), sometimes it is a
race class measurement system (IMS, CHS, IOR, 12 Metre)

There are at least several hundred each of dinghy and keelboat classes.
Many class associations (like car owners clubs) maintain a list of boats
and current owners. You could go to www.rya.org.uk (which mostly covers
dinghies and small keelboats) and click on the 'Class Associations'
button, and then contact each association and ask if they want to join
your database.

And there are various other umbrella organisations, such as RORC, Old
Gaffers Association, etc.



Size - AM I right that boat size is always in feet?

Or metres. Occasionally in square metres.

Thanks.


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Mark Dunlop