been boating
 

How about you people? Took a couple boat trips on my latest vacation. Best
trips were the Chobe River game viewing from Chobe Safari lodge
http://www.chobesafarilodge.com/ . Evening and morning trips. Saw lots of
Hippos, elephants, and a pride of lions, as well as Nile Crocs and baboons.
Worst trip was on the Zambezi River near Victoria Falls where we saw a
couple hippo and listened to fascinating story of Livingston and we could
have heard on land, and spent more time looking for game and birds. Being
from the San Francisco area and having lots of seals and sea lions around
and Cape Fur Seal viewing trip in Cape Town was interesting, but not
exciting like a lot of the people thought. Other boat was to Robben Island
Cape Town and the tour by a former political prisoner. Trip was great, but
boat was just a catamaran ferry.

been boating
 

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:25:14 -0700, "Califbill" wrote:

How about you people? Took a couple boat trips on my latest vacation. Best
trips were the Chobe River game viewing from Chobe Safari lodge
http://www.chobesafarilodge.com/ . Evening and morning trips. Saw lots of
Hippos, elephants, and a pride of lions, as well as Nile Crocs and baboons.
Worst trip was on the Zambezi River near Victoria Falls where we saw a
couple hippo and listened to fascinating story of Livingston and we could
have heard on land, and spent more time looking for game and birds. Being
from the San Francisco area and having lots of seals and sea lions around
and Cape Fur Seal viewing trip in Cape Town was interesting, but not
exciting like a lot of the people thought. Other boat was to Robben Island
Cape Town and the tour by a former political prisoner. Trip was great, but
boat was just a catamaran ferry.

Wow! Looks like a spectacular trip. Hope you'll share some photos with us.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

been boating
 

"J Herring" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:25:14 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

How about you people? Took a couple boat trips on my latest vacation.
Best
trips were the Chobe River game viewing from Chobe Safari lodge
http://www.chobesafarilodge.com/ . Evening and morning trips. Saw lots of
Hippos, elephants, and a pride of lions, as well as Nile Crocs and baboons.
Worst trip was on the Zambezi River near Victoria Falls where we saw a
couple hippo and listened to fascinating story of Livingston and we could
have heard on land, and spent more time looking for game and birds. Being
from the San Francisco area and having lots of seals and sea lions around
and Cape Fur Seal viewing trip in Cape Town was interesting, but not
exciting like a lot of the people thought. Other boat was to Robben Island
Cape Town and the tour by a former political prisoner. Trip was great, but
boat was just a catamaran ferry.

Wow! Looks like a spectacular trip. Hope you'll share some photos with us.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


-----------------

Have to look at what picture sharing sites I still can use. Best is a video
of an elephant sneaking up on us to charge us. Female either pregnant or
PMS according to the guide.

been boating
 

In article ,
says...

How about you people? Took a couple boat trips on my latest vacation. Best
trips were the Chobe River game viewing from Chobe Safari lodge
http://www.chobesafarilodge.com/ . Evening and morning trips. Saw lots of
Hippos, elephants, and a pride of lions, as well as Nile Crocs and baboons.
Worst trip was on the Zambezi River near Victoria Falls where we saw a
couple hippo and listened to fascinating story of Livingston and we could
have heard on land, and spent more time looking for game and birds. Being
from the San Francisco area and having lots of seals and sea lions around
and Cape Fur Seal viewing trip in Cape Town was interesting, but not
exciting like a lot of the people thought. Other boat was to Robben Island
Cape Town and the tour by a former political prisoner. Trip was great, but
boat was just a catamaran ferry.

Wow, nice trip!

been boating
 

On Friday, March 22, 2013 10:34:50 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:25:14 -0700, "Califbill"

wrote:

How about you people? Took a couple boat trips on my latest vacation. Best
trips were the Chobe River game viewing from Chobe Safari lodge
http://www.chobesafarilodge.com/ . Evening and morning trips. Saw lots of
Hippos, elephants, and a pride of lions, as well as Nile Crocs and baboons.


Nothing that exotic but we got out Tuesday and we are going out
tonight. Just a little cruise down the river

Same here, got out last Sunday, but this weekend will be cool and rainy.

Very cool vacation, but I could never get my wife on a plane for that long of a flight.

been boating
 

wrote in message
...

On Friday, March 22, 2013 10:34:50 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:25:14 -0700, "Califbill"

wrote:

How about you people? Took a couple boat trips on my latest vacation.
Best
trips were the Chobe River game viewing from Chobe Safari lodge
http://www.chobesafarilodge.com/ . Evening and morning trips. Saw lots
of
Hippos, elephants, and a pride of lions, as well as Nile Crocs and
baboons.


Nothing that exotic but we got out Tuesday and we are going out
tonight. Just a little cruise down the river

Same here, got out last Sunday, but this weekend will be cool and rainy.

Very cool vacation, but I could never get my wife on a plane for that long
of a flight.


-----------------

My wife used sleeping pills. Going we spent the night at Dulles and then
the 8500 mile trip with a stop in Dakar for an hour. Coming home was about
40 hours in airports and airplanes. Travel agent routing sucked. Cape town
to Johannesburg to Dakar to Washington DC to LAX to Oakland. And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,
delivered next day. 2 to 6 hour layovers along the way. About 12,000 miles
flying. Looking at the map, I would do it different if I went back. SFO to
GRU, then a few days then GRU to Jo'burg. Same return timing. Then you
only have an 8-10 hour flight with a nice break in the middle.

been boating
 

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

If we go again, it'll be with a stopover on the Left Coast, a night in a
hotel, and continuation the next day.

been boating
 

On 3/23/2013 11:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

If we go again, it'll be with a stopover on the Left Coast, a night in a
hotel, and continuation the next day.

Most people have sense enough to do that. Actually stopping over a few
nights in SF might even be better.

been boating
 

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

been boating
 

On 3/23/2013 3:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Can you imagine folks gathering around to chat with Krausie, on a plane?
Neither can I. ;-)

been boating
 

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

And the bigot comes out of his hole....

been boating
 

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:54:59 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/23/2013 3:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Can you imagine folks gathering around to chat with Krausie, on a plane?
Neither can I. ;-)

He may have been one of those guys who would come back to the smoking section 'cause we were having
such a good time. Generally we treated them poorly.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

been boating
 

On 3/23/13 5:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:54:59 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/23/2013 3:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Can you imagine folks gathering around to chat with Krausie, on a plane?
Neither can I. ;-)

He may have been one of those guys who would come back to the smoking section 'cause we were having
such a good time. Generally we treated them poorly.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Fortunately, my first flight to Hawaii was *after* smoking was banned
aboard U.S. airline planes. I do remember, however, from previous
flights the stench you assholes created in the planes. I'm glad you had
a great time playing around with carcinogens and, of course, there's
always the decent chance they'll come back to haunt you.

been boating
 

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...

Wife and I have flown around the world a couple of times mostly on Pan Am's
Flight 1 and 2 but with side trips on local carriers. What a marvelous
feeling it was to be at the airport in New Delhi and see that big blue and
white plane come in and know we were home though still a zillion miles from
home. Wife used to carry knitting needles, scissors, ect., and do alot of
needlepoint and knitting along the way. Always a good conversation maker
with crew and other passengers. But that was all pre-9/11. We don't do that
anymore.


-----------------------

You can still bring knitting needles and crochet hooks aboard and small
scissors. My wife brought Crochet along on this trip. Takes her knitting
on a lot of trips also. Pan Am was good airline to fly most of the time. I
used to take a Pan Am 747 SP to Hong Kong, business class during the 80's.
First trip was only 125 on board plane and I went back to coach and had 5
seats across to take about a 7 hour sleep on the trip. Problem these days
is they have jacked the Business class price absurdly! Used to be an about
50% kicker. Now a 4+ times kicker. We could upgrade our $1780 coach ticket
to Business for an extra $5800.

been boating
 

wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

If we go again, it'll be with a stopover on the Left Coast, a night in a
hotel, and continuation the next day.

My wife wants to go to New Zealand but I think I would have to make
that a 3 leg trip maybe walking around for a day or two on the left
coast and again in Hawaii


--------------------

That trip is short listed. Probably SFO to Tahiti then to NZ. Then
probably to OZ then back via Hawaii. Trying to cash in American Airlines
miles for Business class tickets, but seems to be impossible.

been boating
 

"J Herring" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


---------------------

Actually is caused by idiot public servants. let every one aboard carry a
knife and then no worry about hijackings.

been boating
 

On 3/23/13 6:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

If we go again, it'll be with a stopover on the Left Coast, a night in a
hotel, and continuation the next day.

My wife wants to go to New Zealand but I think I would have to make
that a 3 leg trip maybe walking around for a day or two on the left
coast and again in Hawaii


--------------------

That trip is short listed. Probably SFO to Tahiti then to NZ. Then
probably to OZ then back via Hawaii. Trying to cash in American
Airlines miles for Business class tickets, but seems to be impossible.


It seems like American Airlines has gotten a lot more restrictive lately
on what you can and cannot do with "miles."

been boating
 

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:54:59 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/23/2013 3:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Can you imagine folks gathering around to chat with Krausie, on a plane?
Neither can I. ;-)

He may have been one of those guys who would come back to the smoking section 'cause we were having
such a good time. Generally we treated them poorly.


Salmonbait

Smoking's a 'good time', eh? No wonder Scotty condones it, cancer or
not.

been boating
 

In article ,
says...

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...

Wife and I have flown around the world a couple of times mostly on Pan Am's
Flight 1 and 2 but with side trips on local carriers. What a marvelous
feeling it was to be at the airport in New Delhi and see that big blue and
white plane come in and know we were home though still a zillion miles from
home. Wife used to carry knitting needles, scissors, ect., and do alot of
needlepoint and knitting along the way. Always a good conversation maker
with crew and other passengers. But that was all pre-9/11. We don't do that
anymore.


-----------------------

You can still bring knitting needles and crochet hooks aboard and small
scissors. My wife brought Crochet along on this trip. Takes her knitting
on a lot of trips also. Pan Am was good airline to fly most of the time. I
used to take a Pan Am 747 SP to Hong Kong, business class during the 80's.
First trip was only 125 on board plane and I went back to coach and had 5
seats across to take about a 7 hour sleep on the trip. Problem these days
is they have jacked the Business class price absurdly! Used to be an about
50% kicker. Now a 4+ times kicker. We could upgrade our $1780 coach ticket
to Business for an extra $5800.

Flew coach to China 4 or 5 years ago. What a miserable experience, worse
than any domestic flight I ever took and not because of the length.
Completely full, and airlines have cheapened everything down, so here we
are on this forever flight, packed to the gills with people some of whom
had questionable hygiene habits. Loud, cramped, smelly, many drunks.

been boating
 

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:50:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:

Most people have sense enough to do that. Actually stopping over a few
nights in SF might even be better.

Not a horrible idea. Come in late, do a next day hike in the Muir
woods and get out early the next day

Muir woods is okay, overly trampled by massive amounts of people, but
okay.

been boating
 

On 3/24/13 8:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:54:59 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/23/2013 3:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Can you imagine folks gathering around to chat with Krausie, on a plane?
Neither can I. ;-)

He may have been one of those guys who would come back to the smoking section 'cause we were having
such a good time. Generally we treated them poorly.


Salmonbait

Smoking's a 'good time', eh? No wonder Scotty condones it, cancer or
not.


Smoking stinks, and so do smokers. Blech.

been boating
 

On 3/24/13 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:50:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:

Most people have sense enough to do that. Actually stopping over a few
nights in SF might even be better.

Not a horrible idea. Come in late, do a next day hike in the Muir
woods and get out early the next day

Muir woods is okay, overly trampled by massive amounts of people, but
okay.


There's no shortage of cool stuff to do for a day (or longer) in the San
Francisco area. Point Reyes National Seashore usually is uncrowded and
well worth the visit.

been boating
 

wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:50:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:

Most people have sense enough to do that. Actually stopping over a few
nights in SF might even be better.

Not a horrible idea. Come in late, do a next day hike in the Muir
woods and get out early the next day

--------------------
Heck give me a call, stay a couple nights, introduce you to my retired IBM
Regional Specialist, and see a little of carmel and SF.

been boating
 

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...

Wife and I have flown around the world a couple of times mostly on Pan
Am's
Flight 1 and 2 but with side trips on local carriers. What a marvelous
feeling it was to be at the airport in New Delhi and see that big blue and
white plane come in and know we were home though still a zillion miles
from
home. Wife used to carry knitting needles, scissors, ect., and do alot of
needlepoint and knitting along the way. Always a good conversation maker
with crew and other passengers. But that was all pre-9/11. We don't do
that
anymore.


-----------------------

You can still bring knitting needles and crochet hooks aboard and small
scissors. My wife brought Crochet along on this trip. Takes her knitting
on a lot of trips also. Pan Am was good airline to fly most of the time.
I
used to take a Pan Am 747 SP to Hong Kong, business class during the 80's.
First trip was only 125 on board plane and I went back to coach and had 5
seats across to take about a 7 hour sleep on the trip. Problem these days
is they have jacked the Business class price absurdly! Used to be an
about
50% kicker. Now a 4+ times kicker. We could upgrade our $1780 coach
ticket
to Business for an extra $5800.

Flew coach to China 4 or 5 years ago. What a miserable experience, worse
than any domestic flight I ever took and not because of the length.
Completely full, and airlines have cheapened everything down, so here we
are on this forever flight, packed to the gills with people some of whom
had questionable hygiene habits. Loud, cramped, smelly, many drunks.


---------------

You fit right in I would guess. Should have flown a foreign airline. They
seem to still give service a try.

been boating
 

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 17:33:20 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 5:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:54:59 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/23/2013 3:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Can you imagine folks gathering around to chat with Krausie, on a plane?
Neither can I. ;-)

He may have been one of those guys who would come back to the smoking section 'cause we were having
such a good time. Generally we treated them poorly.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Fortunately, my first flight to Hawaii was *after* smoking was banned
aboard U.S. airline planes. I do remember, however, from previous
flights the stench you assholes created in the planes. I'm glad you had
a great time playing around with carcinogens and, of course, there's
always the decent chance they'll come back to haunt you.

More name-calling?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

been boating
 

In article ,
says...

On 3/24/13 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:50:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:

Most people have sense enough to do that. Actually stopping over a few
nights in SF might even be better.

Not a horrible idea. Come in late, do a next day hike in the Muir
woods and get out early the next day

Muir woods is okay, overly trampled by massive amounts of people, but
okay.


There's no shortage of cool stuff to do for a day (or longer) in the San
Francisco area. Point Reyes National Seashore usually is uncrowded and
well worth the visit.

Yeah, it's usually uncrowded because it's cold, windy and rainy!! Taking
a ride up to the Fort Bragg area is nice, as is taking a drive along the
coast toward Carmel.

been boating
 

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:07:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:50:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:

Most people have sense enough to do that. Actually stopping over a few
nights in SF might even be better.

Not a horrible idea. Come in late, do a next day hike in the Muir
woods and get out early the next day

Muir woods is okay, overly trampled by massive amounts of people, but
okay.


There's no shortage of cool stuff to do for a day (or longer) in the San
Francisco area. Point Reyes National Seashore usually is uncrowded and
well worth the visit.

Just watching the gays and transsexuals could probably be a day's fun for some folks.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

been boating
 

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:07:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:50:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:

Most people have sense enough to do that. Actually stopping over a few
nights in SF might even be better.

Not a horrible idea. Come in late, do a next day hike in the Muir
woods and get out early the next day

Muir woods is okay, overly trampled by massive amounts of people, but
okay.


There's no shortage of cool stuff to do for a day (or longer) in the San
Francisco area. Point Reyes National Seashore usually is uncrowded and
well worth the visit.

Just watching the gays and transsexuals could probably be a day's fun for some folks.


Salmonbait

And the resident bigot pipes in....

been boating
 

On 3/24/13 11:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:07:44 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 8:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:50:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:

Most people have sense enough to do that. Actually stopping over a few
nights in SF might even be better.

Not a horrible idea. Come in late, do a next day hike in the Muir
woods and get out early the next day

Muir woods is okay, overly trampled by massive amounts of people, but
okay.


There's no shortage of cool stuff to do for a day (or longer) in the San
Francisco area. Point Reyes National Seashore usually is uncrowded and
well worth the visit.

Just watching the gays and transsexuals could probably be a day's fun for some folks.


Salmonbait

And the resident bigot pipes in....


Herring just can't help himself. He's boiling over with hate.