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Facts or Opinions?
On 3/19/2013 9:35 AM, Meyer wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote: A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15 percent on actual reporting of news events. According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news. CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time reporting the news than opinion commentary. What a surprise. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29 00160.html Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source I would go to for objective views about news coverage... ----------------------------------- The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington . Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that Huffington was just the vehicle. No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about as credible messenger as National Enquirer.... |
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Facts or Opinions?
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:05:37 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote On 3/19/2013 9:35 AM, Meyer wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote: A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15 percent on actual reporting of news events. According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news. CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time reporting the news than opinion commentary. What a surprise. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29 00160.html Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source I would go to for objective views about news coverage... ----------------------------------- The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington .. Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that Huffington was just the vehicle. No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about as credible messenger as National Enquirer.... That's OK so long as they don't alter facts like Harry and JPS do. |
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Facts or Opinions?
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote: A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington . ----------------------------------------------- No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about as credible messenger as National Enquirer.... ---------------------------------------------- Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer ..... there's at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the results of the same Pew Study. |
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Facts or Opinions?
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says... On 3/19/2013 9:35 AM, Meyer wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:44:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote: A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage over the past 5 years indicates that MSNBC (with the lowest overall budget) relies 85 percent on "opinions" by their commentators and 15 percent on actual reporting of news events. According to the study Fox News spends 55 percent of their air time on commentary opinions and 45 percent on reporting of actual news. CNN was rated as being the only cable network that spent more time reporting the news than opinion commentary. What a surprise. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...able-news_n_29 00160.html Well, it's fine and dandy but the Huffington Hoax is hardly the source I would go to for objective views about news coverage... ----------------------------------- The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington . Harry's a little slow. It shouldn't be needed to point out that Huffington was just the vehicle. No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about as credible messenger as National Enquirer.... So... let me get this straight. It doesn't matter that a VERY well respected, one of the best research centers in the world was the ones who came up with the data, because the Huff post reported on it means that it isn't credible???? Are you really that stupid? So, please show what data you have that contradicts Pew's data..... |
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#16
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Facts or Opinions?
On 3/19/2013 10:28 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote: A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington . ----------------------------------------------- No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about as credible messenger as National Enquirer.... ---------------------------------------------- Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer ..... there's at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the results of the same Pew Study. Yeah, and I am sure they just dismissed Fox the way it was reported "here"... |
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Facts or Opinions?
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote: I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are repeating it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of commentary and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As opinions and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed "lies, lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong .... of what was going on in Bush's head at the time. So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most sinister view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes sense  ------------------------------------------- I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are all hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative "guests" or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are usually used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I like Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds his own against the liberal attacks. They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up to him and he was canned. |
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"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 10:28 AM, Eisboch wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 7:40 AM, Eisboch wrote: A report released Monday by the Pew Research Center on media coverage The study was done by the Pew Research Center, not by Huffington . ----------------------------------------------- No, my point was no matter who did the study, Huffington Hoax is about as credible messenger as National Enquirer.... ---------------------------------------------- Well, you are free to choose whatever messenger you prefer ..... there's at least 8 other ones, including Fox News, that reported the results of the same Pew Study. Yeah, and I am sure they just dismissed Fox the way it was reported "here"... ------------------------------------------ Good grief man! *Who* dismissed Fox? Fox? If think for a moment, the Pew Study actually presents Fox News in a favorable light .... at least as compared to MSNBC .... in terms of time spent presenting news versus time spent delivering opinionated political commentary. |
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Facts or Opinions?
On 3/19/2013 10:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote: I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are repeating it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of commentary and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As opinions and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed "lies, lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong .... of what was going on in Bush's head at the time. So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most sinister view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes sense ------------------------------------------- I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are all hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative "guests" or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are usually used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I like Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds his own against the liberal attacks. They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up to him and he was canned. Yes, republicans are treated like Bob on "The Five"... Punching bag only they don't hate Bob... |
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On 3/19/13 10:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 3/19/2013 8:50 AM, Eisboch wrote: I watched the discussion on MSNBC as well. In fact they are repeating it now. But again, it supports the Pew study .... lots of commentary and expressions of opinions by all, including Scarborough. As opinions and commentary goes, I thought it was fairly well presented and balanced by all of the participants, from those who just claimed "lies, lies, lies" to a reasonable explanation .... right or wrong .... of what was going on in Bush's head at the time. So, you had a few libs doing the loogie and suggesting the most sinister view of what Bush was thinking and the republicans (surprised they allowed them on MSNBC) were dismissing it for what it was? Ok.. makes sense ------------------------------------------- I think "Morning Joe" is the only show on MSNBC that is hosted by a Republican (Joe Scarborough) . The rest the commentary shows are all hosted by liberal Democrats. They have regular conservative "guests" or political commentators like Michael Steele, but they are usually used to emphasize and contrast the liberal host's agenda. I like Michael Steele. He's smart, has an open mind and usually holds his own against the liberal attacks. They used to have Pat Buchanan but he was an obvious racist. He was often funny, but he went too far some times and it finally caught up to him and he was canned. I like Michael Steele, too. If he were running for office here in Maryland and he were a Democrat and ran a decent campaign, I might vote for him. He's a lot better as a commentator, though, than as a political candidate. When he ran the last two times, his campaigns were really sleazy. |
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