On 3/24/2013 1:08 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:48:37 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,

What part of "Lottery" are you having trouble understanding?

Again, you are talking about ONE type of liquor license in Florida, and
there are others.

It is the one you need to be a liquor store owner. None of those other
licenses will work.


Plumeboy has his teeth firmly planted in your ankle. Do you think he'll
let go if you keep egging him on?

On 3/24/2013 8:33 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/24/13 12:52 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:38:03 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life
experience."

Yes I am. Most people in academia went to school when they were five
and never left, retiring there sixty years later. It is one of the
worst examples of vertical integration in the world.

Teaching children is somehow less "real life experience" than, say,
being an accountant how?

If what you are telling them in the classroom is not relevant to what
they see when they get their first job, they did not get the benefit
of someone who has actually worked in that field.


That's like telling an advertising copywriter he cannot write good copy
about a feminine hygiene product because he personally doesn't use them.
Of course he can. There's research available, there are women to
interview, et cetera.

What real world experience does a top level professor of theoretical
physics require in order to be a better teacher?

Here you go dummy.
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=1532

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On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


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we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some worthless,
but legal.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/24/13 12:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:27:49 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life
experience."

Yes I am. Most people in academia went to school when they were five
and never left, retiring there sixty years later. It is one of the
worst examples of vertical integration in the world.


You mean, like being a physician?

We're friends with two of my wife's professors from grad school, two
aging ladies in their 80s now who have done more and seen more than you
or I have. For 40 years, they've run a series of orphanages in China and
other countries in that area of the world, mostly for "unwanted" girl
babies and toddlers, and those operations required frequent trips abroad
and sometimes nasty confrontations with the various governments,
including that of Red China. They recently retired as Professors
Emeritus. Oh, they're nuns. How do your real life experiences compare?

Another of my friends, a fellow who sadly recently died, was on the
faculty of a major university in the MidWest and also was deeply
involved in Polish efforts to remove the communist government there, and
in similar anti-dictatorship movements in other parts of the country,
such as El Salvador. He was shot several times and imprisoned twice
aboard. How do your real life experiences compare to my university buddy?

You're just anti-academia.

Those are very unusual educators.

My daughter's father in law agrees with me and he was a professor for
30 years (recently retired) I can give you his name offline, you may
have some mutual acquaintances.
He is the one that told me they do not teach you job skills.



Your sample size was too small to reach any conclusions.


----------------
I will add my step father. College professor / teacher from when he
graduated UCB and Cornell. He could not have held a real job.

On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


------------------

we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some
worthless, but legal.


The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

On 3/24/13 10:05 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/24/13 12:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:27:49 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life
experience."

Yes I am. Most people in academia went to school when they were five
and never left, retiring there sixty years later. It is one of the
worst examples of vertical integration in the world.


You mean, like being a physician?

We're friends with two of my wife's professors from grad school, two
aging ladies in their 80s now who have done more and seen more than you
or I have. For 40 years, they've run a series of orphanages in China and
other countries in that area of the world, mostly for "unwanted" girl
babies and toddlers, and those operations required frequent trips abroad
and sometimes nasty confrontations with the various governments,
including that of Red China. They recently retired as Professors
Emeritus. Oh, they're nuns. How do your real life experiences compare?

Another of my friends, a fellow who sadly recently died, was on the
faculty of a major university in the MidWest and also was deeply
involved in Polish efforts to remove the communist government there, and
in similar anti-dictatorship movements in other parts of the country,
such as El Salvador. He was shot several times and imprisoned twice
aboard. How do your real life experiences compare to my university
buddy?

You're just anti-academia.

Those are very unusual educators.

My daughter's father in law agrees with me and he was a professor for
30 years (recently retired) I can give you his name offline, you may
have some mutual acquaintances.
He is the one that told me they do not teach you job skills.



Your sample size was too small to reach any conclusions.


----------------
I will add my step father. College professor / teacher from when he
graduated UCB and Cornell. He could not have held a real job.



Teaching isn't a real job? Absurd.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:06:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


------------------

we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some
worthless, but legal.


The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:06:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


------------------

we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some
worthless, but legal.


The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos?

On 3/24/13 11:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:06:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the
loafers). They would do a better job.

I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming
over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida
just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them


---------------------

We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we
always had to watch for INS in out business.

That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are
perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify.
There are still plenty of legal folks tho.
You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out.


------------------

we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some
worthless, but legal.


The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites
around here are Latinos.

Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites.


Salmonbait

Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos?


That's the way it is in Herring's hate-filled world.

On 3/24/13 11:19 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:33:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/24/13 12:52 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:38:03 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life
experience."

Yes I am. Most people in academia went to school when they were five
and never left, retiring there sixty years later. It is one of the
worst examples of vertical integration in the world.

Teaching children is somehow less "real life experience" than, say,
being an accountant how?

If what you are telling them in the classroom is not relevant to what
they see when they get their first job, they did not get the benefit
of someone who has actually worked in that field.


That's like telling an advertising copywriter he cannot write good copy
about a feminine hygiene product because he personally doesn't use them.
Of course he can. There's research available, there are women to
interview, et cetera.

What real world experience does a top level professor of theoretical
physics require in order to be a better teacher?

I suppose the question ends up being, how many people can actually
make a living in theoretical physics?
This topic is about people who got out of college with a crushing debt
and can't find a job.


Be that as it may, it has nothing to do with whether a classroom teacher
has what you consider "real life experience."