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On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:51:39 -0400, BAR wrote:
======== The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue. One of the primary teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and most other christian churches is the sanctity of life. ==== No reasonable person would argue against the sanctity of life. The problem arises because your particular church, and some others, believe that life begins at conception even though there is not a shred of scientific evidence to support that notion. That's what makes it a religious belief: It is based on faith. You are entitled to your religious beliefs of course, and I support that right. However, when you start advocating and lobbying for laws that support your beliefs, you are trampling on the rights and beliefs of others. No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child into the world just to comply with someone else's religious beliefs. |
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On 3/15/2013 9:54 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:51:39 -0400, BAR wrote: ======== The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue. One of the primary teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and most other christian churches is the sanctity of life. ==== No reasonable person would argue against the sanctity of life. The problem arises because your particular church, and some others, believe that life begins at conception even though there is not a shred of scientific evidence to support that notion. That's what makes it a religious belief: It is based on faith. You are entitled to your religious beliefs of course, and I support that right. However, when you start advocating and lobbying for laws that support your beliefs, you are trampling on the rights and beliefs of others. No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child into the world just to comply with someone else's religious beliefs. Kinda' like Row vs Wade forcing me to pay for someone else s abortions? |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:50:39 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:14:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your beliefs. ======== The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue. Yup. But the Church hasn't had a good leg to stand on in some of the countries with the biggest population problems, and it's teachings regarding birth control are mostly ignored in this country, in my opinion. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
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On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:55:57 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: Kinda' like Row vs Wade forcing me to pay for someone else s abortions? === That's nonsense. |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:18:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Wayne B" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:14:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your beliefs. ======== The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue. --------------------------------------- Maybe that's true in third world countries but I don't think the Catholic church's traditional views on contraception or abortion have much affect on people in the USA and other "modern" societies, even among those who are Catholic. For the record, I am not but I know many who are and virtually all of them practiced contraception methods that are "forbidden" by the church. For many, church teachings and traditions are a buffet ... take what you like and leave the rest. I see nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't go along with the buffet concept, except that birth control might be on a little table in the corner. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
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On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 23:02:20 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:18:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wayne B" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:14:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your beliefs. ======== The Roman Catholic church, led by the pope, has been a regressive force against every attempt a population control. A major portion of the world's problems are the result of over population and it's just going to get worse until a majority of people recognize the issue. --------------------------------------- Maybe that's true in third world countries but I don't think the Catholic church's traditional views on contraception or abortion have much affect on people in the USA and other "modern" societies, even among those who are Catholic. For the record, I am not but I know many who are and virtually all of them practiced contraception methods that are "forbidden" by the church. For many, church teachings and traditions are a buffet ... take what you like and leave the rest. I see nothing wrong with that. ==== That's all fine as far as it goes but the church has also been a strong avocate for opposing legislation. If the legislation promoted the killing of babies, then the Church did as it should. The Church will oppose some legislation and promote the other. Salmonbait -- Hope you're having a spectacular day! |
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On 3/15/2013 10:25 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:55:57 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Kinda' like Row vs Wade forcing me to pay for someone else s abortions? === That's nonsense. What's nonsense is that I pay for abortions because someone lobbied congress and passed a law you like, but if another group tries to lobby for a law you don't like, you get upset and act like they don't have the choice to lobby congress... |
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