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J Herring March 16th 13 03:13 PM

The new pope...
 
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:55:37 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:32:31 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

Oh, 'that's different' - but only when it's *your* baby!


No, what's diffrent is that you are talking about late term abortion.
I am not.

OK, enough is enough.

I'll gladly pay taxes on any gambling winnings I have at bingo games. Paying my taxes is not
something I do joyfully, but it *is* something I do!


I'm talking about the Catholic church losing their tax exemption and
paying taxes on *their* gambling earnings.


How late is 'late'?



Salmonbait

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Meyer[_2_] March 16th 13 03:59 PM

The new pope...
 
On 3/16/2013 9:32 AM, BAR wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 3/15/2013 12:52 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:35:56 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/15/2013 12:30 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:23:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/15/13 12:09 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/15/2013 11:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/15/13 11:52 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 3/15/2013 11:25 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:55:57 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

No woman should be forced to bring an unwanted child into the world
just to comply with someone else's religious beliefs.


Kinda' like Row vs Wade forcing me to pay for someone else s
abortions?

The $500 abortion is a lot cheaper than 18 years of welfare and a life
time of prison costs.


And more specifically which women in the US don't have access simply
because there is an so far unsuccessful lobby group out there?


As just one example, there is a single abortion provider in the state of
Mississippi, and next month the state will hold a license hearing on the
facility in an attempt to shut it down.

I think Kansas and several other backwards states are moving in similar
directions, and I know there are attempts in Virginia to shut down
clinics.

So, there is an answer to your question. Women of Mississippi may soon
lose the one clinic in their state that provides abortions, and
therefore they will have no access unless they have a way to get to
another state.

Perhaps you should expand your research venues.

Yes, the answer to my question is there are no women in the US who don't
have access because of the Church.

If that Mississippi clinic is forced to close, lower income women in
Mississippi will not have reasonable access to a clinic, especially
since other southern states are proceeding similarly.

There are many other methods of birth control besides killing a baby. If there's only one clinic,
then very few folks have reasonable access to it anyway (remember all the problems you mentioned
yesterday?). Can they not get medical care at their local hospital? Perhaps education is the key.


Salmonbait

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Hope you're having a spectacular day!

Doesn't seem to be a religious problem at all. It's the state
interfering with woman's rights.

Maybe it's the state protecting the baby's rights!


Salmonbait

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Hope you're having a spectacular day!

It's not the state's business. There are already laws on the books
dealing with murder.


Why is an abortion not murder? When a woman who is pregnant is killed
and the baby is killed the killer can be charged with two murders.

Who said it isn't. And to your statement, the law, like religion, works
in mysterious ways.

F.O.A.D. March 16th 13 06:09 PM

The new pope...
 
On 3/16/13 2:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:30:00 -0400, BAR wrote:

If you want to **** for fun then
you have to be prepared for the consequences of your decisions.


Kids are not real good at thinking about consequences.


There should be boxes of condoms by the exit door of the boys' gym,
starting in junior high, along with videos for boys and girls on why and
how to use them. I think handing out the pill to young girls is
"iff'ier" because some girls react badly to the hormone changes that
accompany the pill. As far as I know, there are no negative consequences
to using a condom.

Meyer[_2_] March 16th 13 06:20 PM

The new pope...
 
On 3/16/2013 2:01 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:30:17 -0400, J Herring
wrote:


There are many other methods of birth control besides killing a baby. If there's only one clinic,
then very few folks have reasonable access to it anyway (remember all the problems you mentioned
yesterday?). Can they not get medical care at their local hospital? Perhaps education is the key.



There are certainly birth control methods but when the egg is
fertilized you can either terminate it or pay that welfare and prison
cost.

When you force a 15 year old girl to have a baby, you ruin 2 lives.
**** Murphy Brown. Most of the single girls having babies are not
millionaires who have the resources to raise it.

Personally I would have the schools handing out free birth control. It
is the cheapest welfare program there is.



Why get the schools involved? I'll bet Harry would be willing to go door
to door handing it out for free.

Wayne B March 16th 13 06:23 PM

The new pope...
 
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:13:30 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

How late is 'late'?


===

We've discussed that before. Look it up.

BAR[_2_] March 16th 13 07:10 PM

The new pope...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:37:01 -0400, BAR wrote:

Why should a religious institution be denied the right to speak freely?


===

There is a difference between speaking freely and hard core lobbying
efforts.


They are one and the same.

BAR[_2_] March 16th 13 07:11 PM

The new pope...
 
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:32:31 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

Oh, 'that's different' - but only when it's *your* baby!


No, what's diffrent is that you are talking about late term abortion.
I am not.

OK, enough is enough.

I'll gladly pay taxes on any gambling winnings I have at bingo games. Paying my taxes is not
something I do joyfully, but it *is* something I do!


I'm talking about the Catholic church losing their tax exemption and
paying taxes on *their* gambling earnings.


The bingo players are dying off and the take is being reduced.

Eisboch[_8_] March 16th 13 07:13 PM

The new pope...
 


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


There should be boxes of condoms by the exit door of the boys' gym,
starting in junior high .......

-----------------------------------------------

They'd probably just take them into the classroom, blow them up and
make animal balloons out of them.


F.O.A.D. March 16th 13 07:17 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m...


There should be boxes of condoms by the exit door of the boys' gym,
starting in junior high .......

-----------------------------------------------

They'd probably just take them into the classroom, blow them up and make
animal balloons out of them.


Great idea!

J Herring March 16th 13 08:04 PM

The new pope...
 
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:23:03 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:13:30 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

How late is 'late'?


===

We've discussed that before. Look it up.


Nope. Not interested in trying to find your opinion. At least you agree there is a 'late'. That's
more than many. You're headed in the right direction.


Salmonbait

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J Herring March 16th 13 08:05 PM

The new pope...
 
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:09:38 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/16/13 2:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:30:00 -0400, BAR wrote:

If you want to **** for fun then
you have to be prepared for the consequences of your decisions.


Kids are not real good at thinking about consequences.


There should be boxes of condoms by the exit door of the boys' gym,
starting in junior high, along with videos for boys and girls on why and
how to use them. I think handing out the pill to young girls is
"iff'ier" because some girls react badly to the hormone changes that
accompany the pill. As far as I know, there are no negative consequences
to using a condom.


Great idea. The morning after pill should be more obtainable also.


Salmonbait

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Hope you're having a spectacular day!

Tom Nofinger March 19th 13 06:24 AM

The new pope...
 
On Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:20:08 PM UTC-5, Meyer wrote:
On 3/16/2013 2:01 PM, wrote:

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:30:17 -0400, J Herring


wrote:






There are many other methods of birth control besides killing a baby. If there's only one clinic,


then very few folks have reasonable access to it anyway (remember all the problems you mentioned


yesterday?). Can they not get medical care at their local hospital? Perhaps education is the key.



There are certainly birth control methods but when the egg is


fertilized you can either terminate it or pay that welfare and prison


cost.




When you force a 15 year old girl to have a baby, you ruin 2 lives.


**** Murphy Brown. Most of the single girls having babies are not


millionaires who have the resources to raise it.



Personally I would have the schools handing out free birth control. It


is the cheapest welfare program there is.




Why get the schools involved? I'll bet Harry would be willing to go door

to door handing it out for free.


Knowing that Herr Krause has boasted of his whoreish youth and college days, he would probably keep them for himself.

thumper March 30th 13 04:09 AM

The new pope...
 
On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...


Eisboch[_8_] March 30th 13 04:11 AM

The new pope...
 


"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...

----------------------------

LOL! Or "Pizzaettes".


True North[_2_] March 30th 13 10:21 AM

The new pope...
 
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:09:13 AM UTC-3, thumper wrote:
On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:



As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate


predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your


beliefs.




Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...



For us growing up, it was a real treat getting fish and chips at a local lunch bar on Friday evenings.
With six kids we didn't get to eat out much in those days.

J Herring March 30th 13 11:32 AM

The new pope...
 
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 00:11:23 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...

----------------------------

LOL! Or "Pizzaettes".


The 'fish on Friday' thing has been gone for years, but there are still some hold-outs who eat fish
on Friday 'religiously'.

Dr. Oz loves 'em.


Salmonbait

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F.O.A.D. March 30th 13 11:46 AM

The new pope...
 
On 3/30/13 12:11 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...

----------------------------

LOL! Or "Pizzaettes".


For reasons unknown to me and to many of my classmates (we've discussed
this often... :) ), the fish lunches, in fact, all the cafeteria
food, was pretty good at Sheridan junior high, and cost us kids
twenty-five cents. When we moved on to Hillhouse high, the price went up
by a dime, but the quality went straight downhill. Normally on Fridays
at Sheridan, we had baked or broiled scrod or cod and occasionally
fishsticks, but not bad ones. At Hillhouse, it was always frozen
fishsticks and incredibly bad and bad smelling tartar sauce. To this
day, I cannot eat tartar sauce.

I am sure the Pope at the time had *nothing* to do with the decline in
school lunch quality. :)

iBoaterer[_3_] March 30th 13 01:46 PM

The new pope...
 
In article ,
says...

"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...

----------------------------

LOL! Or "Pizzaettes".


True story, I went to Oldsmar Elementary for sixth grade in Oldsmar, FL.
At that time it wasn't yet part of Tampa and was a little town. The
school lunches were shipped in from Safety Harbor middle school. Awful
stuff, really. But the one thing that really took the cake was what they
called mini pizza. It was a biscuit (not kidding!) with some spagetti
sauce slathered on, and a piece of cheese on top of that!!!

Hank©[_2_] March 30th 13 02:05 PM

The new pope...
 
On 3/30/2013 6:21 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:09:13 AM UTC-3, thumper wrote:
On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:



As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate


predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your


beliefs.




Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...



For us growing up, it was a real treat getting fish and chips at a local lunch bar on Friday evenings.
With six kids we didn't get to eat out much in those days.


Were they wrapped in newspaper?

Hank©[_2_] March 30th 13 02:10 PM

The new pope...
 
On 3/30/2013 7:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/30/13 12:11 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...

----------------------------

LOL! Or "Pizzaettes".


For reasons unknown to me and to many of my classmates (we've discussed
this often... :) ), the fish lunches, in fact, all the cafeteria
food, was pretty good at Sheridan junior high, and cost us kids
twenty-five cents. When we moved on to Hillhouse high, the price went up
by a dime, but the quality went straight downhill. Normally on Fridays
at Sheridan, we had baked or broiled scrod or cod and occasionally
fishsticks, but not bad ones. At Hillhouse, it was always frozen
fishsticks and incredibly bad and bad smelling tartar sauce. To this
day, I cannot eat tartar sauce.

I am sure the Pope at the time had *nothing* to do with the decline in
school lunch quality. :)


Why are you complaining about subsidized school meals. For most of your
classmates it was probably the best meal of the day, if not the only
meal. Everyone wasn't born with a silver spoon like you were.

True North[_2_] March 30th 13 11:29 PM

The new pope...
 
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:05:00 AM UTC-3, Hank© wrote:
On 3/30/2013 6:21 AM, True North wrote:

On Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:09:13 AM UTC-3, thumper wrote:


On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:








As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate




predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your




beliefs.








Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...






For us growing up, it was a real treat getting fish and chips at a local lunch bar on Friday evenings.


With six kids we didn't get to eat out much in those days.






Were they wrapped in newspaper?


Wrong country, Slick.
Our fish and chips always came in a pressed Fiber tray and wrapped in a brown kraft type paper.

Tim March 31st 13 12:02 AM

The new pope...
 
On Mar 29, 11:09*pm, thumper wrote:
On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...


Yeah, most restaurants serve seafood on fri. nights. A place from here
has all-you-can-eat Walleye. Fried, broiled or baked...

It's a little bit expensive, but WOW!

BAR[_2_] March 31st 13 12:17 AM

The new pope...
 
In article , lid says...

On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...


Why are you mad about spreading the wealth around. Fisherman need the work.

BAR[_2_] March 31st 13 12:19 AM

The new pope...
 
In article , says...

In article ,
says...

"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...

----------------------------

LOL! Or "Pizzaettes".


True story, I went to Oldsmar Elementary for sixth grade in Oldsmar, FL.
At that time it wasn't yet part of Tampa and was a little town. The
school lunches were shipped in from Safety Harbor middle school. Awful
stuff, really. But the one thing that really took the cake was what they
called mini pizza. It was a biscuit (not kidding!) with some spagetti
sauce slathered on, and a piece of cheese on top of that!!!


When I attended Pearl Harbor Kai Elementary School we had Poi served with each lunch. Nobody
ate it, it went right into the trash.

Tim March 31st 13 03:13 AM

The new pope...
 
On Mar 30, 7:19*pm, BAR wrote:
In article , says...











In article ,
says...


"thumper" *wrote in ...


On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...


----------------------------


LOL! * Or "Pizzaettes".


True story, I went to Oldsmar Elementary for sixth grade in Oldsmar, FL..
At that time it wasn't yet part of Tampa and was a little town. The
school lunches were shipped in from Safety Harbor middle school. Awful
stuff, really. But the one thing that really took the cake was what they
called mini pizza. It was a biscuit (not kidding!) with some spagetti
sauce slathered on, and a piece of cheese on top of that!!!


When I attended Pearl Harbor Kai Elementary School we had Poi served with each lunch. Nobody
ate it, it went right into the trash.



I'm sure you're right .

But..."Fish & Poi" on Maui knew how to do Poi right. last time we were
there it was the Maui Bar & Grill, and they still did a good job. Not
sure if the place is still open or not. Hope so. We'd like to go back
there again.

Tim March 31st 13 03:16 AM

The new pope...
 
On Mar 30, 8:46*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...



"thumper" *wrote in ...


On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...


----------------------------


LOL! * Or "Pizzaettes".


True story, I went to Oldsmar Elementary for sixth grade in Oldsmar, FL.
At that time it wasn't yet part of Tampa and was a little town. The
school lunches were shipped in from Safety Harbor middle school. Awful
stuff, really. But the one thing that really took the cake was what they
called mini pizza. It was a biscuit (not kidding!) with some spagetti
sauce slathered on, and a piece of cheese on top of that!!!


In the '60's , pizza got to be a fad, and we'd get ' peed-zuh ' about
once a week. It was little more than flat crust cheese and some kind
of tomato sauce. Always over baked with cheese grease floating on the
top.

F.O.A.D. March 31st 13 03:20 AM

The new pope...
 
On 3/30/13 9:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.


Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...

----------------------------

LOL! Or "Pizzaettes".


True story, I went to Oldsmar Elementary for sixth grade in Oldsmar, FL.
At that time it wasn't yet part of Tampa and was a little town. The
school lunches were shipped in from Safety Harbor middle school. Awful
stuff, really. But the one thing that really took the cake was what they
called mini pizza. It was a biscuit (not kidding!) with some spagetti
sauce slathered on, and a piece of cheese on top of that!!!


Our junior high school cafeteria served pretty good lunches, but the
high school, as I mentioned, turned out lunches almost no one would eat.
You either brown-bagged it or you "made a sub run" for yourself and a
few friends down to a corner Italian market about a block away, where
you could be a first-class Italian style sandwich, like cold cuts or
meatballs or sausage, for fifty cents. Naturally, we were "forbidden" to
leave the campus for that sort of lunch, and, naturally, we paid no
attention to the rule.

We got away with it because the assistant principal walked there a
couple of times a week to buy his lunch. We all pretended we didn't know
each other. Since we kids weren't getting into any trouble, he gave us a
pass.

F.O.A.D. March 31st 13 03:32 AM

The new pope...
 
On 3/30/13 10:20 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/30/13 9:46 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 3/14/2013 3:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:

As an atheist, please tell us how this Pope, or his immediate
predecessors have adversely affected your life or interfered with
your
beliefs.

Fish-sticks every Friday at the school cafeteria...

----------------------------

LOL! Or "Pizzaettes".


True story, I went to Oldsmar Elementary for sixth grade in Oldsmar, FL.
At that time it wasn't yet part of Tampa and was a little town. The
school lunches were shipped in from Safety Harbor middle school. Awful
stuff, really. But the one thing that really took the cake was what they
called mini pizza. It was a biscuit (not kidding!) with some spagetti
sauce slathered on, and a piece of cheese on top of that!!!


Our junior high school cafeteria served pretty good lunches, but the
high school, as I mentioned, turned out lunches almost no one would eat.
You either brown-bagged it or you "made a sub run" for yourself and a
few friends down to a corner Italian market about a block away, where
you could be a first-class Italian style sandwich, like cold cuts or
meatballs or sausage, for fifty cents. Naturally, we were "forbidden" to
leave the campus for that sort of lunch, and, naturally, we paid no
attention to the rule.

We got away with it because the assistant principal walked there a
couple of times a week to buy his lunch. We all pretended we didn't know
each other. Since we kids weren't getting into any trouble, he gave us a
pass.


Where you could buy, not be. I shouldn't type without my glasses. :)

Eisboch[_8_] March 31st 13 03:35 AM

The new pope...
 


"Tim" wrote in message
...


In the '60's , pizza got to be a fad, and we'd get ' peed-zuh ' about
once a week. It was little more than flat crust cheese and some kind
of tomato sauce. Always over baked with cheese grease floating on the
top.

--------------------------------------------------

Mrs. E. makes them once in a while using English muffins, tomato
sauce and various cheeses. Nice snack type treat but unfortunately
not on my current list of diet foods. No breads of any kind except
low calorie artisan flatbreads and only skim milk, low fat cheese.





Tim March 31st 13 05:24 AM

The new pope...
 
On Mar 30, 9:35*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:


Mrs. E. *makes them once in a while using English muffins, tomato
sauce and various cheeses. * Nice snack type treat but unfortunately
not on my current list of diet foods. * No breads of any kind except
low calorie artisan flatbreads and only skim milk, low fat cheese.


Sux, don't it?

?;^ (



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