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Meyer[_2_] March 12th 13 12:57 AM

An article about medical costs
 
On 3/11/2013 8:51 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:59:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:10:12 -0700, jps wrote:

Military and health care costs have spiraled out of control because no
one wants to appear anti-defense or take on the huge $ in pharma,
non-profit (cough, cough) hospitals, nor face the wrath of their
campaign finance coffers.


Medicine spends about 4 times as much lobby money into our politicians
as the military industrial complex.


That says where the $ is, doesn't it. Is there no end to Americans
being shaken down for the enrichment of the wealthy?


And O'Bama is the great shaker downer of the masses.

amdx March 12th 13 01:07 AM

An article about medical costs
 
On 3/11/2013 7:51 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:59:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:10:12 -0700, jps wrote:

Military and health care costs have spiraled out of control because no
one wants to appear anti-defense or take on the huge $ in pharma,
non-profit (cough, cough) hospitals, nor face the wrath of their
campaign finance coffers.


Medicine spends about 4 times as much lobby money into our politicians
as the military industrial complex.


That says where the $ is, doesn't it. Is there no end to Americans
being shaken down for the enrichment of the wealthy?


Is there no end to hard working taxpayers being shaken down for the
enrichment of those who would rather while away the time until the first
of the month to come around so they can get their benefits.

Mikek

Urin Asshole March 12th 13 02:02 AM

An article about medical costs
 
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:07:39 -0500, amdx
wrote:

On 3/11/2013 7:51 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:59:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:10:12 -0700, jps wrote:

Military and health care costs have spiraled out of control because no
one wants to appear anti-defense or take on the huge $ in pharma,
non-profit (cough, cough) hospitals, nor face the wrath of their
campaign finance coffers.

Medicine spends about 4 times as much lobby money into our politicians
as the military industrial complex.


That says where the $ is, doesn't it. Is there no end to Americans
being shaken down for the enrichment of the wealthy?


Is there no end to hard working taxpayers being shaken down for the
enrichment of those who would rather while away the time until the first
of the month to come around so they can get their benefits.

Mikek


Sure. That's the heart of the problem. Not the billions spent by the
big corporations trying to get every last dime out of some guy who can
barely feed his family. You're really either stupid or a ****.

Urin Asshole March 12th 13 04:49 AM

An article about medical costs
 
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:56:35 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:37:37 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:39:55 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:21:12 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:



Yep, and Medicare, by law can't negotiate with either hospitals of
Pharma. That's quite a free market system isn't it.

Go read the article again. Medicare pays about 10% of the Charge
Master price on the bills they looked at.
That was a big part of what Brill was saying.


That isn't a negotiation. They're barred by law from negotiating. It's
a fixed price that Medicare pays. And, 10% of complete bull**** is
still complete bull****. the costs are way below that. Try again.


The 10% is higher than the reality. Medicare pays more like 6-7%
OK I will try quoting the article you didn't seem to read.

Chest X ray $283 Medicare $20.44
Troponin Test $199.Medicare $13.64
CBC $157.61 Medicare $11.02
EKG $1200 Medicare $96
The list goes on


Brill says Medicare does pay too much for medical equipment tho.


What the **** is your problem? You said 10%. They don't negotiate.
It's a fixed percentage for each item. You go read the ****ing
article.

Urin Asshole March 12th 13 04:51 AM

An article about medical costs
 
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:02:41 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:39:00 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:59:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:10:12 -0700, jps wrote:

Military and health care costs have spiraled out of control because no
one wants to appear anti-defense or take on the huge $ in pharma,
non-profit (cough, cough) hospitals, nor face the wrath of their
campaign finance coffers.

Medicine spends about 4 times as much lobby money into our politicians
as the military industrial complex.


And, your conclusion is that we should not regulate hospitals,
insurance companies, or equipment manufacturers, or allow Medicare to
negotiate prices with them. Also, according to you, big money flowing
to politicians is just fine.


Try to pay attention. I never said bribing congress was OK. On the
contrary I have been saying that is why we are in as much trouble as
we are in.
There is nothing that is much more regulated than the medical
industry, what we don't do is make the system any cheaper.
The way it is set up, it will always be getting more expensive.

If I could wave a wand, I would outlaw advertising for candidates,
lawyers and the whole medical establishment.


Try to be intelligent. Oh yeah, you can't.

If you read the ****ing article you'd know how things can be fixed.

If you could waive a magic want, I'd rather have a hellfire shoved up
my ass.

jps March 12th 13 05:33 AM

An article about medical costs
 
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:02:42 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:07:39 -0500, amdx
wrote:

On 3/11/2013 7:51 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:59:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:10:12 -0700, jps wrote:

Military and health care costs have spiraled out of control because no
one wants to appear anti-defense or take on the huge $ in pharma,
non-profit (cough, cough) hospitals, nor face the wrath of their
campaign finance coffers.

Medicine spends about 4 times as much lobby money into our politicians
as the military industrial complex.

That says where the $ is, doesn't it. Is there no end to Americans
being shaken down for the enrichment of the wealthy?


Is there no end to hard working taxpayers being shaken down for the
enrichment of those who would rather while away the time until the first
of the month to come around so they can get their benefits.

Mikek


Sure. That's the heart of the problem. Not the billions spent by the
big corporations trying to get every last dime out of some guy who can
barely feed his family. You're really either stupid or a ****.


The top 1% own something like half the country. Sounds like the folks
who are living off welfare checks probably don't own much, or have
much to look forward to in terms of helping their kids get an
education or having a retirement or living in anything resembling
comfort. Those are naturally occuring consequences.

But the fact that the middle class is under siege by the wealthy is
something we should be paying attention to, since our economy depends
on a healthy middle class.

Otherwise, we're going to become Mexico.

J Herring March 12th 13 11:29 AM

An article about medical costs
 
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:33:07 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:02:42 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:07:39 -0500, amdx
wrote:

On 3/11/2013 7:51 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:59:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:10:12 -0700, jps wrote:

Military and health care costs have spiraled out of control because no
one wants to appear anti-defense or take on the huge $ in pharma,
non-profit (cough, cough) hospitals, nor face the wrath of their
campaign finance coffers.

Medicine spends about 4 times as much lobby money into our politicians
as the military industrial complex.

That says where the $ is, doesn't it. Is there no end to Americans
being shaken down for the enrichment of the wealthy?


Is there no end to hard working taxpayers being shaken down for the
enrichment of those who would rather while away the time until the first
of the month to come around so they can get their benefits.

Mikek


Sure. That's the heart of the problem. Not the billions spent by the
big corporations trying to get every last dime out of some guy who can
barely feed his family. You're really either stupid or a ****.


The top 1% own something like half the country. Sounds like the folks
who are living off welfare checks probably don't own much, or have
much to look forward to in terms of helping their kids get an
education or having a retirement or living in anything resembling
comfort. Those are naturally occuring consequences.

But the fact that the middle class is under siege by the wealthy is
something we should be paying attention to, since our economy depends
on a healthy middle class.

Otherwise, we're going to become Mexico.


I thought that was the dream of the 'progressives'.

You liberals want open borders, no 'rich' (except liberal politicians, whom you never seem to
discuss), and equality for all.

Isn't that what becoming Mexico is all about, senor?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Meyer[_2_] March 12th 13 11:41 AM

An article about medical costs
 
On 3/12/2013 7:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:33:07 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:02:42 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:07:39 -0500, amdx
wrote:

On 3/11/2013 7:51 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:59:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:10:12 -0700, jps wrote:

Military and health care costs have spiraled out of control because no
one wants to appear anti-defense or take on the huge $ in pharma,
non-profit (cough, cough) hospitals, nor face the wrath of their
campaign finance coffers.

Medicine spends about 4 times as much lobby money into our politicians
as the military industrial complex.

That says where the $ is, doesn't it. Is there no end to Americans
being shaken down for the enrichment of the wealthy?


Is there no end to hard working taxpayers being shaken down for the
enrichment of those who would rather while away the time until the first
of the month to come around so they can get their benefits.

Mikek

Sure. That's the heart of the problem. Not the billions spent by the
big corporations trying to get every last dime out of some guy who can
barely feed his family. You're really either stupid or a ****.


The top 1% own something like half the country. Sounds like the folks
who are living off welfare checks probably don't own much, or have
much to look forward to in terms of helping their kids get an
education or having a retirement or living in anything resembling
comfort. Those are naturally occuring consequences.

But the fact that the middle class is under siege by the wealthy is
something we should be paying attention to, since our economy depends
on a healthy middle class.

Otherwise, we're going to become Mexico.


I thought that was the dream of the 'progressives'.

You liberals want open borders, no 'rich' (except liberal politicians, whom you never seem to
discuss), and equality for all.

Isn't that what becoming Mexico is all about, senor?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Carlos slim seems to be doing OK; much better than his fellow countrymen.

BAR[_2_] March 12th 13 12:02 PM

An article about medical costs
 
In article om,
says...

On 3/12/2013 7:29 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 22:33:07 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:02:42 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:07:39 -0500, amdx
wrote:

On 3/11/2013 7:51 PM, jps wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:59:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:10:12 -0700, jps wrote:

Military and health care costs have spiraled out of control because no
one wants to appear anti-defense or take on the huge $ in pharma,
non-profit (cough, cough) hospitals, nor face the wrath of their
campaign finance coffers.

Medicine spends about 4 times as much lobby money into our politicians
as the military industrial complex.

That says where the $ is, doesn't it. Is there no end to Americans
being shaken down for the enrichment of the wealthy?


Is there no end to hard working taxpayers being shaken down for the
enrichment of those who would rather while away the time until the first
of the month to come around so they can get their benefits.

Mikek

Sure. That's the heart of the problem. Not the billions spent by the
big corporations trying to get every last dime out of some guy who can
barely feed his family. You're really either stupid or a ****.

The top 1% own something like half the country. Sounds like the folks
who are living off welfare checks probably don't own much, or have
much to look forward to in terms of helping their kids get an
education or having a retirement or living in anything resembling
comfort. Those are naturally occuring consequences.

But the fact that the middle class is under siege by the wealthy is
something we should be paying attention to, since our economy depends
on a healthy middle class.

Otherwise, we're going to become Mexico.


I thought that was the dream of the 'progressives'.

You liberals want open borders, no 'rich' (except liberal politicians, whom you never seem to
discuss), and equality for all.

Isn't that what becoming Mexico is all about, senor?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!


Carlos slim seems to be doing OK; much better than his fellow countrymen.


Much better than every country's men.

iBoaterer[_2_] March 12th 13 12:40 PM

An article about medical costs
 
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:10:39 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:59:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

If you want a VERY informative look at healthcare costs in the U.S. and
why we need reform, get a copy of March 2013 time magazine. If you read
it un-biased, you'll see that something HAS to be done and I for one am
glad that we have a start.


The word "Paymaster" is going to gain popularity in the US lexicon.


There's for sure nothing biased about Time Magazine!


Salmonbait


Please tell what in the article you disagree with and why.


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