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F.O.A.D. February 27th 13 02:38 PM

Pissy Beer Gets...Pissier?
 
Budweiser waters down its beer, lawsuit alleges

Beer lovers across the U.S. have accused Anheuser-Busch of watering down
its Budweiser, Michelob and other brands, in class-action suits seeking
millions in damages.

The suits, filed in Pennsylvania, California and other states, claim
consumers have been cheated out of the alcohol content stated on labels.
Budweiser and Michelob each boast of being 5 percent alcohol, while some
"light" versions are said to be just over 4 percent.

The lawsuits are based on information from former employees at the
company's 13 U.S. breweries, some in high-level plant positions,
according to lead lawyer Josh Boxer of San Rafael, Calif.

"Our information comes from former employees at Anheuser-Busch, who have
informed us that as a matter of corporate practice, all of their
products mentioned (in the lawsuit) are watered down," Boxer said. "It's
a simple cost-saving measure, and it's very significant."

The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated
alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said.

Anheuser-Busch InBev called the claims "groundless" and said its beers
fully comply with labeling laws.

"Our beers are in full compliance with all alcohol labeling laws. We
proudly adhere to the highest standards in brewing our beers, which have
made them the best-selling in the U.S. and the world," Peter Kraemer,
vice president of brewing and supply, said in a statement.

The suit involves 10 Anheuser-Busch products: Budweiser, Bud Ice, Bud
Light Platinum, Michelob, Michelob Ultra, Hurricane High Gravity Lager,
King Cobra, Busch Ice, Natural Ice and Bud Light Lime.

Anheuser-Busch, based in St. Louis, Mo., merged with InBev in 2008 to
form the world's largest alcohol producer, headquartered in Belgium. In
2011, the company produced 10 billion gallons of malt beverages, 3
billion of them in the U.S., and reported $22 billion in profits from
that category, the lawsuit said.

AB InBev, the maker of Budweiser and Stella Artois, controls 39 percent
of the U.S. beer market.

According to the lawsuit, the company has sophisticated equipment that
measures the alcohol content throughout the brewing process and is
accurate to within one-hundredth of a percent. But after the merger, the
company increasingly chose to dilute its popular brands of beer, the
lawsuit alleged.

"Following the merger, AB vigorously accelerated the deceptive practices
described below, sacrificing the quality products once produced by
Anheuser-Busch in order to reduce costs," said the lead lawsuit, filed
Friday in federal court in San Francisco on behalf of consumers in the
lower 48 states.

Companion suits are being filed this week in Pennsylvania, New Jersey
and elsewhere. Each seeks at least $5 million in damages.

The named Pennsylvania plaintiffs, Thomas and Gerald Greenberg of
Ambler, said they buy six cases of the affected Anheuser-Busch products
a month. They did not immediately return a message Tuesday, and Boxer
would not elaborate on their purchases except to say the
consumer-protection suit does not involve retailers or bar owners.

One of the California plaintiffs, Nina Giampaoli of Sonoma County, said
she bought a six-pack of Budweiser every week for the past four years.

"I think it's wrong for huge corporations to lie to their loyal
customers — I really feel cheated. No matter what the product is, people
should be able to rely on the information companies put on their
labels," Giampaoli said in a news release issued by Boxer's law firm.

Bloomberg News first reported Tuesday on the lawsuits.

In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

"AB (Anheuser-Busch) never intends for the malt beverage to possess the
amount of alcohol that is stated on the label. As a result, AB's
customers are overcharged for watered-down beer and AB is unjustly
enriched by the additional volume it can sell," the lawsuit said.
- - -

Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand
owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of
people did.




Meyer[_2_] February 27th 13 03:03 PM

Pissy Beer Gets...Pissier?
 
On 2/27/2013 9:38 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Budweiser waters down its beer, lawsuit alleges

Beer lovers across the U.S. have accused Anheuser-Busch of watering down
its Budweiser, Michelob and other brands, in class-action suits seeking
millions in damages.

The suits, filed in Pennsylvania, California and other states, claim
consumers have been cheated out of the alcohol content stated on labels.
Budweiser and Michelob each boast of being 5 percent alcohol, while some
"light" versions are said to be just over 4 percent.

The lawsuits are based on information from former employees at the
company's 13 U.S. breweries, some in high-level plant positions,
according to lead lawyer Josh Boxer of San Rafael, Calif.

"Our information comes from former employees at Anheuser-Busch, who have
informed us that as a matter of corporate practice, all of their
products mentioned (in the lawsuit) are watered down," Boxer said. "It's
a simple cost-saving measure, and it's very significant."

The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated
alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said.

Anheuser-Busch InBev called the claims "groundless" and said its beers
fully comply with labeling laws.

"Our beers are in full compliance with all alcohol labeling laws. We
proudly adhere to the highest standards in brewing our beers, which have
made them the best-selling in the U.S. and the world," Peter Kraemer,
vice president of brewing and supply, said in a statement.

The suit involves 10 Anheuser-Busch products: Budweiser, Bud Ice, Bud
Light Platinum, Michelob, Michelob Ultra, Hurricane High Gravity Lager,
King Cobra, Busch Ice, Natural Ice and Bud Light Lime.

Anheuser-Busch, based in St. Louis, Mo., merged with InBev in 2008 to
form the world's largest alcohol producer, headquartered in Belgium. In
2011, the company produced 10 billion gallons of malt beverages, 3
billion of them in the U.S., and reported $22 billion in profits from
that category, the lawsuit said.

AB InBev, the maker of Budweiser and Stella Artois, controls 39 percent
of the U.S. beer market.

According to the lawsuit, the company has sophisticated equipment that
measures the alcohol content throughout the brewing process and is
accurate to within one-hundredth of a percent. But after the merger, the
company increasingly chose to dilute its popular brands of beer, the
lawsuit alleged.

"Following the merger, AB vigorously accelerated the deceptive practices
described below, sacrificing the quality products once produced by
Anheuser-Busch in order to reduce costs," said the lead lawsuit, filed
Friday in federal court in San Francisco on behalf of consumers in the
lower 48 states.

Companion suits are being filed this week in Pennsylvania, New Jersey
and elsewhere. Each seeks at least $5 million in damages.

The named Pennsylvania plaintiffs, Thomas and Gerald Greenberg of
Ambler, said they buy six cases of the affected Anheuser-Busch products
a month. They did not immediately return a message Tuesday, and Boxer
would not elaborate on their purchases except to say the
consumer-protection suit does not involve retailers or bar owners.

One of the California plaintiffs, Nina Giampaoli of Sonoma County, said
she bought a six-pack of Budweiser every week for the past four years.

"I think it's wrong for huge corporations to lie to their loyal
customers — I really feel cheated. No matter what the product is, people
should be able to rely on the information companies put on their
labels," Giampaoli said in a news release issued by Boxer's law firm.

Bloomberg News first reported Tuesday on the lawsuits.

In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

"AB (Anheuser-Busch) never intends for the malt beverage to possess the
amount of alcohol that is stated on the label. As a result, AB's
customers are overcharged for watered-down beer and AB is unjustly
enriched by the additional volume it can sell," the lawsuit said.
- - -

Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand
owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of
people did.




You are a Corona fan, aren't you?

JustWaitAFrekinMinute February 27th 13 03:21 PM

Union job action?
 
On 2/27/2013 9:38 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Budweiser waters down its beer, lawsuit alleges

Beer lovers across the U.S. have accused Anheuser-Busch of watering down
its Budweiser, Michelob and other brands, in class-action suits seeking
millions in damages.

The suits, filed in Pennsylvania, California and other states, claim
consumers have been cheated out of the alcohol content stated on labels.
Budweiser and Michelob each boast of being 5 percent alcohol, while some
"light" versions are said to be just over 4 percent.

The lawsuits are based on information from former employees at the
company's 13 U.S. breweries, some in high-level plant positions,
according to lead lawyer Josh Boxer of San Rafael, Calif.

"Our information comes from former employees at Anheuser-Busch, who have
informed us that as a matter of corporate practice, all of their
products mentioned (in the lawsuit) are watered down," Boxer said. "It's
a simple cost-saving measure, and it's very significant."

The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated
alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said.

Anheuser-Busch InBev called the claims "groundless" and said its beers
fully comply with labeling laws.

"Our beers are in full compliance with all alcohol labeling laws. We
proudly adhere to the highest standards in brewing our beers, which have
made them the best-selling in the U.S. and the world," Peter Kraemer,
vice president of brewing and supply, said in a statement.

The suit involves 10 Anheuser-Busch products: Budweiser, Bud Ice, Bud
Light Platinum, Michelob, Michelob Ultra, Hurricane High Gravity Lager,
King Cobra, Busch Ice, Natural Ice and Bud Light Lime.

Anheuser-Busch, based in St. Louis, Mo., merged with InBev in 2008 to
form the world's largest alcohol producer, headquartered in Belgium. In
2011, the company produced 10 billion gallons of malt beverages, 3
billion of them in the U.S., and reported $22 billion in profits from
that category, the lawsuit said.

AB InBev, the maker of Budweiser and Stella Artois, controls 39 percent
of the U.S. beer market.

According to the lawsuit, the company has sophisticated equipment that
measures the alcohol content throughout the brewing process and is
accurate to within one-hundredth of a percent. But after the merger, the
company increasingly chose to dilute its popular brands of beer, the
lawsuit alleged.

"Following the merger, AB vigorously accelerated the deceptive practices
described below, sacrificing the quality products once produced by
Anheuser-Busch in order to reduce costs," said the lead lawsuit, filed
Friday in federal court in San Francisco on behalf of consumers in the
lower 48 states.

Companion suits are being filed this week in Pennsylvania, New Jersey
and elsewhere. Each seeks at least $5 million in damages.

The named Pennsylvania plaintiffs, Thomas and Gerald Greenberg of
Ambler, said they buy six cases of the affected Anheuser-Busch products
a month. They did not immediately return a message Tuesday, and Boxer
would not elaborate on their purchases except to say the
consumer-protection suit does not involve retailers or bar owners.

One of the California plaintiffs, Nina Giampaoli of Sonoma County, said
she bought a six-pack of Budweiser every week for the past four years.

"I think it's wrong for huge corporations to lie to their loyal
customers — I really feel cheated. No matter what the product is, people
should be able to rely on the information companies put on their
labels," Giampaoli said in a news release issued by Boxer's law firm.

Bloomberg News first reported Tuesday on the lawsuits.

In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

"AB (Anheuser-Busch) never intends for the malt beverage to possess the
amount of alcohol that is stated on the label. As a result, AB's
customers are overcharged for watered-down beer and AB is unjustly
enriched by the additional volume it can sell," the lawsuit said.
- - -

Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand
owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of
people did.




Probably some kind of wildcat action by the union...


True North[_2_] February 27th 13 03:29 PM

Union job action?
 
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:21:01 AM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 2/27/2013 9:38 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Budweiser waters down its beer, lawsuit alleges




Beer lovers across the U.S. have accused Anheuser-Busch of watering down


its Budweiser, Michelob and other brands, in class-action suits seeking


millions in damages.




The suits, filed in Pennsylvania, California and other states, claim


consumers have been cheated out of the alcohol content stated on labels..


Budweiser and Michelob each boast of being 5 percent alcohol, while some


"light" versions are said to be just over 4 percent.




The lawsuits are based on information from former employees at the


company's 13 U.S. breweries, some in high-level plant positions,


according to lead lawyer Josh Boxer of San Rafael, Calif.




"Our information comes from former employees at Anheuser-Busch, who have


informed us that as a matter of corporate practice, all of their


products mentioned (in the lawsuit) are watered down," Boxer said. "It's


a simple cost-saving measure, and it's very significant."




The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated


alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said.




Anheuser-Busch InBev called the claims "groundless" and said its beers


fully comply with labeling laws.




"Our beers are in full compliance with all alcohol labeling laws. We


proudly adhere to the highest standards in brewing our beers, which have


made them the best-selling in the U.S. and the world," Peter Kraemer,


vice president of brewing and supply, said in a statement.




The suit involves 10 Anheuser-Busch products: Budweiser, Bud Ice, Bud


Light Platinum, Michelob, Michelob Ultra, Hurricane High Gravity Lager,


King Cobra, Busch Ice, Natural Ice and Bud Light Lime.




Anheuser-Busch, based in St. Louis, Mo., merged with InBev in 2008 to


form the world's largest alcohol producer, headquartered in Belgium. In


2011, the company produced 10 billion gallons of malt beverages, 3


billion of them in the U.S., and reported $22 billion in profits from


that category, the lawsuit said.




AB InBev, the maker of Budweiser and Stella Artois, controls 39 percent


of the U.S. beer market.




According to the lawsuit, the company has sophisticated equipment that


measures the alcohol content throughout the brewing process and is


accurate to within one-hundredth of a percent. But after the merger, the


company increasingly chose to dilute its popular brands of beer, the


lawsuit alleged.




"Following the merger, AB vigorously accelerated the deceptive practices


described below, sacrificing the quality products once produced by


Anheuser-Busch in order to reduce costs," said the lead lawsuit, filed


Friday in federal court in San Francisco on behalf of consumers in the


lower 48 states.




Companion suits are being filed this week in Pennsylvania, New Jersey


and elsewhere. Each seeks at least $5 million in damages.




The named Pennsylvania plaintiffs, Thomas and Gerald Greenberg of


Ambler, said they buy six cases of the affected Anheuser-Busch products


a month. They did not immediately return a message Tuesday, and Boxer


would not elaborate on their purchases except to say the


consumer-protection suit does not involve retailers or bar owners.




One of the California plaintiffs, Nina Giampaoli of Sonoma County, said


she bought a six-pack of Budweiser every week for the past four years.




"I think it's wrong for huge corporations to lie to their loyal


customers � I really feel cheated. No matter what the product is, people


should be able to rely on the information companies put on their


labels," Giampaoli said in a news release issued by Boxer's law firm.




Bloomberg News first reported Tuesday on the lawsuits.




In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Boxer said he has


evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped


short of saying the beers had been independently tested.




"AB (Anheuser-Busch) never intends for the malt beverage to possess the


amount of alcohol that is stated on the label. As a result, AB's


customers are overcharged for watered-down beer and AB is unjustly


enriched by the additional volume it can sell," the lawsuit said.


- - -




Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand


owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of


people did.










Probably some kind of wildcat action by the union...



You, my...you couldn't sound any stupider than you do.
It must come naturally, as you're not known for working hard at anything.

True North[_2_] February 27th 13 03:37 PM

Union job action?
 
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:29:04 AM UTC-4, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:21:01 AM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:

On 2/27/2013 9:38 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:




Budweiser waters down its beer, lawsuit alleges








Beer lovers across the U.S. have accused Anheuser-Busch of watering down




its Budweiser, Michelob and other brands, in class-action suits seeking




millions in damages.








The suits, filed in Pennsylvania, California and other states, claim




consumers have been cheated out of the alcohol content stated on labels.




Budweiser and Michelob each boast of being 5 percent alcohol, while some




"light" versions are said to be just over 4 percent.








The lawsuits are based on information from former employees at the




company's 13 U.S. breweries, some in high-level plant positions,




according to lead lawyer Josh Boxer of San Rafael, Calif.








"Our information comes from former employees at Anheuser-Busch, who have




informed us that as a matter of corporate practice, all of their




products mentioned (in the lawsuit) are watered down," Boxer said. "It's




a simple cost-saving measure, and it's very significant."








The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated




alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said.








Anheuser-Busch InBev called the claims "groundless" and said its beers




fully comply with labeling laws.








"Our beers are in full compliance with all alcohol labeling laws. We




proudly adhere to the highest standards in brewing our beers, which have




made them the best-selling in the U.S. and the world," Peter Kraemer,




vice president of brewing and supply, said in a statement.








The suit involves 10 Anheuser-Busch products: Budweiser, Bud Ice, Bud




Light Platinum, Michelob, Michelob Ultra, Hurricane High Gravity Lager,




King Cobra, Busch Ice, Natural Ice and Bud Light Lime.








Anheuser-Busch, based in St. Louis, Mo., merged with InBev in 2008 to




form the world's largest alcohol producer, headquartered in Belgium. In




2011, the company produced 10 billion gallons of malt beverages, 3




billion of them in the U.S., and reported $22 billion in profits from




that category, the lawsuit said.








AB InBev, the maker of Budweiser and Stella Artois, controls 39 percent




of the U.S. beer market.








According to the lawsuit, the company has sophisticated equipment that




measures the alcohol content throughout the brewing process and is




accurate to within one-hundredth of a percent. But after the merger, the




company increasingly chose to dilute its popular brands of beer, the




lawsuit alleged.








"Following the merger, AB vigorously accelerated the deceptive practices




described below, sacrificing the quality products once produced by




Anheuser-Busch in order to reduce costs," said the lead lawsuit, filed




Friday in federal court in San Francisco on behalf of consumers in the




lower 48 states.








Companion suits are being filed this week in Pennsylvania, New Jersey




and elsewhere. Each seeks at least $5 million in damages.








The named Pennsylvania plaintiffs, Thomas and Gerald Greenberg of




Ambler, said they buy six cases of the affected Anheuser-Busch products




a month. They did not immediately return a message Tuesday, and Boxer




would not elaborate on their purchases except to say the




consumer-protection suit does not involve retailers or bar owners.








One of the California plaintiffs, Nina Giampaoli of Sonoma County, said




she bought a six-pack of Budweiser every week for the past four years..








"I think it's wrong for huge corporations to lie to their loyal




customers � I really feel cheated. No matter what the product is, people




should be able to rely on the information companies put on their




labels," Giampaoli said in a news release issued by Boxer's law firm.








Bloomberg News first reported Tuesday on the lawsuits.








In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Boxer said he has




evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped




short of saying the beers had been independently tested.








"AB (Anheuser-Busch) never intends for the malt beverage to possess the




amount of alcohol that is stated on the label. As a result, AB's




customers are overcharged for watered-down beer and AB is unjustly




enriched by the additional volume it can sell," the lawsuit said.




- - -








Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand




owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of




people did.




















Probably some kind of wildcat action by the union...






You, my...you couldn't sound any stupider than you do.

It must come naturally, as you're not known for working hard at anything.




D'oh......that should be 'my, my'

F.O.A.D. February 27th 13 03:57 PM

Union job action?
 
On 2/27/13 10:29 AM, True North wrote:




Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand


owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of


people did.










Probably some kind of wildcat action by the union...



You, my...you couldn't sound any stupider than you do.
It must come naturally, as you're not known for working hard at anything.



Not likely that PsychoSnotty could get a skilled job at a brewery. Those
jobs require knowledge, experience, skill, ability to know what
ingredients and time do, a high level of cleanliness, et cetera.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute February 27th 13 04:04 PM

Union job action?
 
On 2/27/2013 10:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/27/13 10:29 AM, True North wrote:




Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand

owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of

people did.









Probably some kind of wildcat action by the union...



You, my...you couldn't sound any stupider than you do.
It must come naturally, as you're not known for working hard at anything.



Not likely that PsychoSnotty could get a skilled job at a brewery. Those
jobs require knowledge, experience, skill, ability to know what
ingredients and time do, a high level of cleanliness, et cetera.


What does that have to do with the troll thread you posted? How are the
folks you stiffed in Florida doing? Two bankruptcies, several failed
businesses of your own, you have not a leg to stand on here as to work
ethic harry

JustWaitAFrekinMinute February 27th 13 05:20 PM

Pissy Beer Gets...Pissier?
 
On 2/27/2013 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:38:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.


That would seem to be the first step. Checking the alcohol content is
a trivial process. I wonder why they did not try to get independent
analysis.

I always assumed the bottle cost more than the beer and the contents
was pennies to them anyway


This reeks of union stench... Must be Budweiser wanted the folks who
pick the beer off of the pallets to stop putting them on other pallets,
there is another man for that and the handoff needs to be properly
documented... which of course takes another guy or gal:)

F.O.A.D. February 27th 13 05:25 PM

Pissy Beer Gets...Pissier?
 
On 2/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:38:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.


That would seem to be the first step. Checking the alcohol content is
a trivial process. I wonder why they did not try to get independent
analysis.

I always assumed the bottle cost more than the beer and the contents
was pennies to them anyway



I know nothing about beer brewing or the expense attached to commercial
beer brewing. I do know the few times I "taste-tested" Bud's U.S.
brands, I thought they were ****y. A decade or so ago, I was at a
pavilion in Orlando, maybe at SeaWorld, where the makers of Bud were
offering free samples of all their beers. It was very hot that day, and
I got in line a few times. I didn't like any of the offerings.

It's not a snob thing. I'm not much of a beer drinker. If I have a beer,
and I have a choice, I'll pick a Mexican or Japanese beer. I did have a
favorite "local" beer from Mexico, which is the only place I've ever had
one, but I read somewhere the brand was "absorbed" by a bigger brand in
that country.

F.O.A.D. February 27th 13 05:27 PM

Pissy Beer Gets...Pissier?
 
On 2/27/13 12:20 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/27/2013 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:38:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.


That would seem to be the first step. Checking the alcohol content is
a trivial process. I wonder why they did not try to get independent
analysis.

I always assumed the bottle cost more than the beer and the contents
was pennies to them anyway


This reeks of union stench... Must be Budweiser wanted the folks who
pick the beer off of the pallets to stop putting them on other pallets,
there is another man for that and the handoff needs to be properly
documented... which of course takes another guy or gal:)



PsychoScotty gets paranoid for Budweiser.


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