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On 2/19/2013 8:11 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote: Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo that are owned by the public? What would be the point? Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? Why can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own drones? Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I want to? Why am I being punished? That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were incapable of shooting the person holding them. Would they find another way? What percentage? Should we make other, less violent methods available to suicidal persons? The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of the left's favorite example of gun control. Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those other maladies? I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those stats above? Not so many. The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns. Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974) That might save more people than banning guns. Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more. Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity. What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4? If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he can *stop* it though. Salmonbait I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that pyrite gray devil of a rave 4. Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne. BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning. Didn't realize that the old boat was only 240 lbs You must have got 2 footitis and moved all the way up to 16 feets. Lessee 850 lbs for the boat. 200 lbs for the engine. 500 lbs for the trlr. 200 lbs of gear and batteries and you are a tad overloaded. It's not a matter of the engine pulling it. But , CAN YOU STOP on a moderate downgrade with the car loaded up with passengers and more gear. I think John already cautioned you about that. |
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On 2/19/2013 8:15 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/19/13 8:11 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote: Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo that are owned by the public? What would be the point? Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? Why can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own drones? Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I want to? Why am I being punished? That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were incapable of shooting the person holding them. Would they find another way? What percentage? Should we make other, less violent methods available to suicidal persons? The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of the left's favorite example of gun control. Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those other maladies? I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those stats above? Not so many. The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns. Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974) That might save more people than banning guns. Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more. Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity. What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4? If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he can *stop* it though. Salmonbait I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that pyrite gray devil of a rave 4. Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne. BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning. What's Meyer boating in this days...oh, I forgot...it's a state secret. Neither you or Don have alluded to your current pride and joys. You didn't get a Bayliner, did you? |
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On 2/19/2013 9:26 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 8:15 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/19/13 8:11 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote: Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo that are owned by the public? What would be the point? Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? Why can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own drones? Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I want to? Why am I being punished? That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were incapable of shooting the person holding them. Would they find another way? What percentage? Should we make other, less violent methods available to suicidal persons? The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of the left's favorite example of gun control. Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those other maladies? I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those stats above? Not so many. The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns. Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974) That might save more people than banning guns. Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more. Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity. What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4? If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he can *stop* it though. Salmonbait I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that pyrite gray devil of a rave 4. Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne. BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning. What's Meyer boating in this days...oh, I forgot...it's a state secret. Neither you or Don have alluded to your current pride and joys. You didn't get a Bayliner, did you? harry krause can't tell us about anything now that we all know he's hiding assets from folks he owes... Sucks to be him, what a scum bag. |
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On 2/19/2013 9:23 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 8:11 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote: Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo that are owned by the public? What would be the point? Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? Why can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own drones? Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I want to? Why am I being punished? That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were incapable of shooting the person holding them. Would they find another way? What percentage? Should we make other, less violent methods available to suicidal persons? The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of the left's favorite example of gun control. Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those other maladies? I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those stats above? Not so many. The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns. Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974) That might save more people than banning guns. Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more. Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity. What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4? If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he can *stop* it though. Salmonbait I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that pyrite gray devil of a rave 4. Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne. BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning. Didn't realize that the old boat was only 240 lbs You must have got 2 footitis and moved all the way up to 16 feets. Lessee 850 lbs for the boat. 200 lbs for the engine. 500 lbs for the trlr. 200 lbs of gear and batteries and you are a tad overloaded. It's not a matter of the engine pulling it. But , CAN YOU STOP on a moderate downgrade with the car loaded up with passengers and more gear. I think John already cautioned you about that. Assholes like him don't give a **** about "your" family. They always justify it with **** like "I only tow a little way", etc... In reality they are just selfish assholes, but you knew that. |
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On 2/19/13 9:43 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/19/2013 9:26 PM, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 8:15 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/19/13 8:11 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote: Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo that are owned by the public? What would be the point? Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? Why can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own drones? Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I want to? Why am I being punished? That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were incapable of shooting the person holding them. Would they find another way? What percentage? Should we make other, less violent methods available to suicidal persons? The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of the left's favorite example of gun control. Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those other maladies? I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those stats above? Not so many. The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns. Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974) That might save more people than banning guns. Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more. Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity. What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4? If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he can *stop* it though. Salmonbait I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that pyrite gray devil of a rave 4. Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne. BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning. What's Meyer boating in this days...oh, I forgot...it's a state secret. Neither you or Don have alluded to your current pride and joys. You didn't get a Bayliner, did you? harry krause can't tell us about anything now that we all know he's hiding assets from folks he owes... Sucks to be him, what a scum bag. Yet another PsychoSnotty tale... -- I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work for me. |
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:22:15 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/19/13 9:17 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:17:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/19/13 8:14 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:31:29 -0500, Meyer wrote: That was foad's comment. Are you confused or is foad really urine A. === We all know that foad is Harry Krause. Chances are that urinal is also given Harry's past record of creating peole who agree with him. Sorry, whiner...Mr. Pee ain't me, and when I changed my handle to FOAD, I announced it here. It is true, isn't it, that "etc" is your altered ego? When I change my handle to Wayne Is A Moron, I'll let everyone know. You can use the handle I gave him... W'hine. Or, better, Lil W'hine. How about Insayne? |
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On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 22:44:48 UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 2/19/2013 9:23 PM, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 8:11 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote: Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo that are owned by the public? What would be the point? Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? Why can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own drones? Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I want to? Why am I being punished? That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were incapable of shooting the person holding them. Would they find another way? What percentage? Should we make other, less violent methods available to suicidal persons? The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of the left's favorite example of gun control. Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those other maladies? I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those stats above? Not so many. The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns. Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974) That might save more people than banning guns. Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more. Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity. What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4? If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he can *stop* it though. Salmonbait I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that pyrite gray devil of a rave 4. Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne. BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning. Didn't realize that the old boat was only 240 lbs You must have got 2 footitis and moved all the way up to 16 feets. Lessee 850 lbs for the boat. 200 lbs for the engine. 500 lbs for the trlr. 200 lbs of gear and batteries and you are a tad overloaded. It's not a matter of the engine pulling it. But , CAN YOU STOP on a moderate downgrade with the car loaded up with passengers and more gear. I think John already cautioned you about that. Assholes like him don't give a **** about "your" family. They always justify it with **** like "I only tow a little way", etc... In reality they are just selfish assholes, but you knew that. You'd better keep an eye out for me on South Windsor streets, MiniMan. |
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On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 22:23:47 UTC-4, Meyer wrote:
On 2/19/2013 8:11 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote: Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo that are owned by the public? What would be the point? Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? Why can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own drones? Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I want to? Why am I being punished? That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were incapable of shooting the person holding them. Would they find another way? What percentage? Should we make other, less violent methods available to suicidal persons? The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of the left's favorite example of gun control. Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those other maladies? I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those stats above? Not so many. The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns. Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974) That might save more people than banning guns. Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more. Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity. What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4? If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he can *stop* it though. Salmonbait I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that pyrite gray devil of a rave 4. Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne. BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning. Didn't realize that the old boat was only 240 lbs You must have got 2 footitis and moved all the way up to 16 feets. Lessee 850 lbs for the boat. 200 lbs for the engine. 500 lbs for the trlr. 200 lbs of gear and batteries and you are a tad overloaded. It's not a matter of the engine pulling it. But , CAN YOU STOP on a moderate downgrade with the car loaded up with passengers and more gear. I think John already cautioned you about that. Boat alone weighs just over half a ton. Johnny cautioning me... SNERK! |
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On Feb 19, 8:11*pm, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer *wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote: Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo that are owned by the public? What would be the point? Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? *Why can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own drones? *Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I want to? Why am I being punished? That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were incapable of shooting the person holding them. *Would they find another way? *What percentage? *Should we make other, less violent methods available to suicidal persons? The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of the left's favorite example of gun control. Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those other maladies? *I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those stats above? *Not so many. The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns. Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974) * *That might save more people than banning guns. Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more. Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity. What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4? If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he can *stop* it though. Salmonbait I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that pyrite gray devil of a rave 4. Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne. BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning. Its ****-brown, you toothless coward-cocksucker. |
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On Feb 19, 10:50*pm, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 22:23:47 UTC-4, Meyer *wrote: On 2/19/2013 8:11 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:29:00 UTC-4, Meyer *wrote: On 2/19/2013 4:55 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:17 -0500, Meyer wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:52 PM, True North wrote: On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:37:36 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:08:57 -0800, jps wrote: Why is it considered punishment to limit the number of guns and ammo that are owned by the public? What would be the point? Is it punishment that I want to own a tank with the capacity to shell an area of the desert that wouldn't be affected by my hobby? *Why can't I own surface to air missles so that I can shoot down my own drones? *Why can't I own a mortar setup so I can play with it when I want to? Why am I being punished? That is a red herring, those things have been illegal for 50 years I wonder what would happen with the suicide stats if guns were incapable of shooting the person holding them. *Would they find another way? *What percentage? *Should we make other, less violent methods available to suicidal persons? The lack of guns has not affected the suicide rate in Japan, one of the left's favorite example of gun control. Lastly, what do you suppose the percentages of young people (let's say under 20) that die in gun related homicides or suicides vs all those other maladies? *I'm sure a lot die in car accidents but all those stats above? *Not so many. The ratio of young people who die in cars is pretty close to guns. Maybe we should ban any car that goes over 70 MPH, put mandatory breatholizers on the ignition and keep them from running if the seat belts are not fastened. (they actually tried that in 1974) * * That might save more people than banning guns. Might not be a bad idea...doesn't seem sensible to put autos on the road capable of double the legal speed...or more. Some kind of limiter could keep speed down to 75 or so while not limiting towing capacity. What's the towing capacity of your Rav 4? If it's a 2009 with a v6, and he's really full of bravado, he can tow 2000lbs. That doesn't mean he can *stop* it though. Salmonbait I don't think he has the gutsy V6 His new boat is 3 times the princecraft. It's hard to believe he can tow that hefty boat with that pyrite gray devil of a rave 4. Actually, it's closer to 4X, StinkyOne. BTW it's pyrite mica... that would be a very pleasing dark bronze when the sun is shinning. Didn't realize that the old boat was only 240 lbs You must have got 2 footitis and moved all the way up to 16 feets. Lessee 850 lbs for the boat. 200 lbs for the engine. 500 lbs for the trlr. 200 lbs of gear and batteries and you are a tad overloaded. It's not a matter of the engine pulling it. But , CAN YOU STOP on a moderate downgrade with the car loaded up with passengers and more gear. I think John already cautioned you about that. Boat alone weighs just over half a ton. Johnny cautioning me... SNERK! Well, since your ****-brown Rav 4 only has 175 horse at SIX THOUSAND rpm....Im suprised if it could tow your ****ty boat UP a hill. Its a tad overweight as well, at 3,675 pounds...... Only has 7.5 INCHES of ground clearance..... 4 cylinder ****box, with a toothless owner. |
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:22:15 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
You can use the handle I gave him... W'hine. Or, better, Lil W'hine. ==== So how are those IRS tax liens working out for you? Any fraudulent transfers recently? |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 2/19/13 6:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Do you really think I am gonna' read any of this? LOL! Hey, most of your posts make absolutely no sense. Why should your latest idea of having everyone's cells shut off at 10 mph be any different. Oh...my wife just messaged me from her iPhone. Her commuter bus, the one on which is she a passenger and the one that travels at more than 10 mph except when it is stuck in traffic arrived at her stop downtown 10 minutes late so she probably will be home a littler later than usual. Under your plan, she wouldn't be able to send such a message. You're a moron. ------------------------------------------------------ If I were king one of the first commands I would issue is to completely ban the use of smart phones and their manufacture. Cell phones with voice-only would be permitted. No texting capability, no internet access. Smart phones with people walking, driving, shopping and whatever with a phone stuck under their nose and thumbs flying on the tiny keyboards would be outlawed. I think smart phones are having a major affect on how people communicate and relate to each other, much the same as how people communicate here in this newsgroup. It's an inward, isolated world without benefit of real human interaction and body language. Very few of the foul mouthed, derogatory and insulting comments would be made in this newsgroup if those involved were physically present to each other. |
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On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:37:14 AM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 2/19/13 6:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Do you really think I am gonna' read any of this? LOL! Hey, most of your posts make absolutely no sense. Why should your latest idea of having everyone's cells shut off at 10 mph be any different. Oh...my wife just messaged me from her iPhone. Her commuter bus, the one on which is she a passenger and the one that travels at more than 10 mph except when it is stuck in traffic arrived at her stop downtown 10 minutes late so she probably will be home a littler later than usual. Under your plan, she wouldn't be able to send such a message. You're a moron. ------------------------------------------------------ If I were king one of the first commands I would issue is to completely ban the use of smart phones and their manufacture. Cell phones with voice-only would be permitted. No texting capability, no internet access. Smart phones with people walking, driving, shopping and whatever with a phone stuck under their nose and thumbs flying on the tiny keyboards would be outlawed. I think smart phones are having a major affect on how people communicate and relate to each other, much the same as how people communicate here in this newsgroup. It's an inward, isolated world without benefit of real human interaction and body language. Very few of the foul mouthed, derogatory and insulting comments would be made in this newsgroup if those involved were physically present to each other. I agree with this post. My #2 son ignores my calls to his cellphone but will answer a text message back before I have a chance to set my cellphone down......and it costs me 15 cents for each text I send. Don't send enough to justify a monthly plan. |
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On 2/20/13 6:37 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 2/19/13 6:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Do you really think I am gonna' read any of this? LOL! Hey, most of your posts make absolutely no sense. Why should your latest idea of having everyone's cells shut off at 10 mph be any different. Oh...my wife just messaged me from her iPhone. Her commuter bus, the one on which is she a passenger and the one that travels at more than 10 mph except when it is stuck in traffic arrived at her stop downtown 10 minutes late so she probably will be home a littler later than usual. Under your plan, she wouldn't be able to send such a message. You're a moron. ------------------------------------------------------ If I were king one of the first commands I would issue is to completely ban the use of smart phones and their manufacture. Cell phones with voice-only would be permitted. No texting capability, no internet access. Smart phones with people walking, driving, shopping and whatever with a phone stuck under their nose and thumbs flying on the tiny keyboards would be outlawed. I think smart phones are having a major affect on how people communicate and relate to each other, much the same as how people communicate here in this newsgroup. It's an inward, isolated world without benefit of real human interaction and body language. Very few of the foul mouthed, derogatory and insulting comments would be made in this newsgroup if those involved were physically present to each other. I also am annoyed by people using their smartphones as computer terminals while they drive, talk, shop, et cetera, and I wonder if there ever is any enforcement invoked against those who are fiddling with their phones while they drive. I know there are laws against it, but enforcement and citations? I dunno. On the other hand, there are many legitimate reasons to have access to email and other applications when you are away from your home or office computer, and the smartphones prove their value in those instances. The decline in personal, face to face communications began in earnest with the advent in the 1980s of bulletin boards and commercial services like CompuServ. All the smart phones have done in that regard is make such "communication" more accessible and portable. I see virtually none of the foul behavior you mentioned on the moderated boards I frequent for chatting and learning more about boating, computers, smart phones. I see very little of it on FaceBook, but then, I do pick and choose my friends there, and if I encounter someone who is overly aggressive or foul-mouthed or insulting, I just drop that person. I'm in a couple of affinity groups with literally hundreds of posters and virtually everyone seems to behave reasonably. rec.boats was a reasonably pleasant place until the extreme righties drove almost everyone off. Most of the posters here are righties, and they've tea-partied the joint. There's less than a handful of us remaining here who are moderate right to moderate left and in the middle. |
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On 2/20/2013 7:29 AM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:37:14 AM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 2/19/13 6:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Do you really think I am gonna' read any of this? LOL! Hey, most of your posts make absolutely no sense. Why should your latest idea of having everyone's cells shut off at 10 mph be any different. Oh...my wife just messaged me from her iPhone. Her commuter bus, the one on which is she a passenger and the one that travels at more than 10 mph except when it is stuck in traffic arrived at her stop downtown 10 minutes late so she probably will be home a littler later than usual. Under your plan, she wouldn't be able to send such a message. You're a moron. ------------------------------------------------------ If I were king one of the first commands I would issue is to completely ban the use of smart phones and their manufacture. Cell phones with voice-only would be permitted. No texting capability, no internet access. Smart phones with people walking, driving, shopping and whatever with a phone stuck under their nose and thumbs flying on the tiny keyboards would be outlawed. I think smart phones are having a major affect on how people communicate and relate to each other, much the same as how people communicate here in this newsgroup. It's an inward, isolated world without benefit of real human interaction and body language. Very few of the foul mouthed, derogatory and insulting comments would be made in this newsgroup if those involved were physically present to each other. I agree with this post. My #2 son ignores my calls to his cellphone but will answer a text message back before I have a chance to set my cellphone down......and it costs me 15 cents for each text I send. Don't send enough to justify a monthly plan. Mebbe he doesn't want to listen to your insulting and derogatory comments. |
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On 2/20/13 7:29 AM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:37:14 AM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 2/19/13 6:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Do you really think I am gonna' read any of this? LOL! Hey, most of your posts make absolutely no sense. Why should your latest idea of having everyone's cells shut off at 10 mph be any different. Oh...my wife just messaged me from her iPhone. Her commuter bus, the one on which is she a passenger and the one that travels at more than 10 mph except when it is stuck in traffic arrived at her stop downtown 10 minutes late so she probably will be home a littler later than usual. Under your plan, she wouldn't be able to send such a message. You're a moron. ------------------------------------------------------ If I were king one of the first commands I would issue is to completely ban the use of smart phones and their manufacture. Cell phones with voice-only would be permitted. No texting capability, no internet access. Smart phones with people walking, driving, shopping and whatever with a phone stuck under their nose and thumbs flying on the tiny keyboards would be outlawed. I think smart phones are having a major affect on how people communicate and relate to each other, much the same as how people communicate here in this newsgroup. It's an inward, isolated world without benefit of real human interaction and body language. Very few of the foul mouthed, derogatory and insulting comments would be made in this newsgroup if those involved were physically present to each other. I agree with this post. My #2 son ignores my calls to his cellphone but will answer a text message back before I have a chance to set my cellphone down......and it costs me 15 cents for each text I send. Don't send enough to justify a monthly plan. I have a nephew in college and in his 20s on my family plan who somehow manages to send/receive more than 2000 text messages a month and at the same time barely uses the phone part of his smart phone. I pay $10 a month extra for "unlimited" text messages on a family plan to accommodate texting. Most of the people I exchange texts with have iPhones, so our texting via the apple iMessage servers costs us nothing. |
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On 2/20/2013 7:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/20/13 7:29 AM, True North wrote: On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:37:14 AM UTC-4, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 2/19/13 6:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Do you really think I am gonna' read any of this? LOL! Hey, most of your posts make absolutely no sense. Why should your latest idea of having everyone's cells shut off at 10 mph be any different. Oh...my wife just messaged me from her iPhone. Her commuter bus, the one on which is she a passenger and the one that travels at more than 10 mph except when it is stuck in traffic arrived at her stop downtown 10 minutes late so she probably will be home a littler later than usual. Under your plan, she wouldn't be able to send such a message. You're a moron. ------------------------------------------------------ If I were king one of the first commands I would issue is to completely ban the use of smart phones and their manufacture. Cell phones with voice-only would be permitted. No texting capability, no internet access. Smart phones with people walking, driving, shopping and whatever with a phone stuck under their nose and thumbs flying on the tiny keyboards would be outlawed. I think smart phones are having a major affect on how people communicate and relate to each other, much the same as how people communicate here in this newsgroup. It's an inward, isolated world without benefit of real human interaction and body language. Very few of the foul mouthed, derogatory and insulting comments would be made in this newsgroup if those involved were physically present to each other. I agree with this post. My #2 son ignores my calls to his cellphone but will answer a text message back before I have a chance to set my cellphone down......and it costs me 15 cents for each text I send. Don't send enough to justify a monthly plan. I have a nephew in college and in his 20s on my family plan who somehow manages to send/receive more than 2000 text messages a month and at the same time barely uses the phone part of his smart phone. I pay $10 a month extra for "unlimited" text messages on a family plan to accommodate texting. Most of the people I exchange texts with have iPhones, so our texting via the apple iMessage servers costs us nothing. Taught the kid how to game the system, eh? Again proving Eisboch's point. |
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On Feb 20, 6:45*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
The decline in personal, face to face communications began in earnest with the advent in the 1980s of bulletin boards and commercial services like CompuServ. All the smart phones have done in that regard is make such "communication" more accessible and portable. I see virtually none of the foul behavior you mentioned on the moderated boards I frequent for chatting and learning more about boating, computers, smart phones. I see very little of it on FaceBook, but then, I do pick and choose my friends there, and if I encounter someone who is overly aggressive or foul-mouthed or insulting, I just drop that person. I'm in a couple of affinity groups with literally hundreds of posters and virtually everyone seems to behave reasonably. rec.boats was a reasonably pleasant place until the extreme righties drove almost everyone off. Most of the posters here are righties, and they've tea-partied the joint. There's less than a handful of us remaining here who are moderate right to moderate left and in the middle. Harry, I'm glad I read this before I went to work. This was the laugh of the day. Thanks again! |
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On 2/20/13 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:
On Feb 20, 6:45 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The decline in personal, face to face communications began in earnest with the advent in the 1980s of bulletin boards and commercial services like CompuServ. All the smart phones have done in that regard is make such "communication" more accessible and portable. I see virtually none of the foul behavior you mentioned on the moderated boards I frequent for chatting and learning more about boating, computers, smart phones. I see very little of it on FaceBook, but then, I do pick and choose my friends there, and if I encounter someone who is overly aggressive or foul-mouthed or insulting, I just drop that person. I'm in a couple of affinity groups with literally hundreds of posters and virtually everyone seems to behave reasonably. rec.boats was a reasonably pleasant place until the extreme righties drove almost everyone off. Most of the posters here are righties, and they've tea-partied the joint. There's less than a handful of us remaining here who are moderate right to moderate left and in the middle. Harry, I'm glad I read this before I went to work. This was the laugh of the day. Thanks again! Maybe you should drop your crazy right-wing friends from rec.boats off your Facebook friends list. :) -- I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work for me. |
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On 2/20/2013 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:
On Feb 20, 6:45 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The decline in personal, face to face communications began in earnest with the advent in the 1980s of bulletin boards and commercial services like CompuServ. All the smart phones have done in that regard is make such "communication" more accessible and portable. I see virtually none of the foul behavior you mentioned on the moderated boards I frequent for chatting and learning more about boating, computers, smart phones. I see very little of it on FaceBook, but then, I do pick and choose my friends there, and if I encounter someone who is overly aggressive or foul-mouthed or insulting, I just drop that person. I'm in a couple of affinity groups with literally hundreds of posters and virtually everyone seems to behave reasonably. rec.boats was a reasonably pleasant place until the extreme righties drove almost everyone off. Most of the posters here are righties, and they've tea-partied the joint. There's less than a handful of us remaining here who are moderate right to moderate left and in the middle. Harry, I'm glad I read this before I went to work. This was the laugh of the day. Thanks again! When I reat vomit like that, I think of the story "The emperor's new clothes" Harry is clueless. |
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On 2/20/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/20/13 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Feb 20, 6:45 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The decline in personal, face to face communications began in earnest with the advent in the 1980s of bulletin boards and commercial services like CompuServ. All the smart phones have done in that regard is make such "communication" more accessible and portable. I see virtually none of the foul behavior you mentioned on the moderated boards I frequent for chatting and learning more about boating, computers, smart phones. I see very little of it on FaceBook, but then, I do pick and choose my friends there, and if I encounter someone who is overly aggressive or foul-mouthed or insulting, I just drop that person. I'm in a couple of affinity groups with literally hundreds of posters and virtually everyone seems to behave reasonably. rec.boats was a reasonably pleasant place until the extreme righties drove almost everyone off. Most of the posters here are righties, and they've tea-partied the joint. There's less than a handful of us remaining here who are moderate right to moderate left and in the middle. Harry, I'm glad I read this before I went to work. This was the laugh of the day. Thanks again! Maybe you should drop your crazy right-wing friends from rec.boats off your Facebook friends list. :) Grown ups find Facebook a self imposed dangerous risk of invasion of privacy. |
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:36:09 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:19:14 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:58:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The number of suicides by gun might drop if it were a bit more difficult and time consuming to buy pistols. In my state, there's a waiting period that ends up running about 10 days from purchase to approval by the state police. If you are suicidal and want a gun to end it and you don't have one, you might change your mind in 10 days. Not likely. Most people who seriously contemplate suicide, eventually decide to do it. Japan has a much higher suicide rate than the US and they have virtually zero firearms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara They're really good at sharpening knives too. Salmonbait I love my Japanese water stone. I have also used a Dozuki too. And, I pulled the Dozuki across my finger nail by accident once. It always amazes me when you do something stupid to yourself and the first things you see is the blood, bright red and oozing, and them the pain hits. Yesterday I was scratching around in my desk drawer for something and felt something sharp, but not bad. Turned out to be a single edge razor blade. Had blood all over the place. I'm thinking, "Why the **** did I leave a razor blade in my desk drawer?" Oh well. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, that's just a fetus!" |
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On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:48:30 AM UTC-4, Salmonbait wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:36:09 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:19:14 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:58:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The number of suicides by gun might drop if it were a bit more difficult and time consuming to buy pistols. In my state, there's a waiting period that ends up running about 10 days from purchase to approval by the state police. If you are suicidal and want a gun to end it and you don't have one, you might change your mind in 10 days. Not likely. Most people who seriously contemplate suicide, eventually decide to do it. Japan has a much higher suicide rate than the US and they have virtually zero firearms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara They're really good at sharpening knives too. Salmonbait I love my Japanese water stone. I have also used a Dozuki too. And, I pulled the Dozuki across my finger nail by accident once. It always amazes me when you do something stupid to yourself and the first things you see is the blood, bright red and oozing, and them the pain hits. Yesterday I was scratching around in my desk drawer for something and felt something sharp, but not bad. Turned out to be a single edge razor blade. Had blood all over the place. I'm thinking, "Why the **** did I leave a razor blade in my desk drawer?" Oh well. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, that's just a fetus!" ....and now you'll be a gun owners?? Lord help the unsuspecting citizens of your town. |
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On 2/20/2013 8:57 AM, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:48:30 AM UTC-4, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:36:09 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:19:14 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:58:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The number of suicides by gun might drop if it were a bit more difficult and time consuming to buy pistols. In my state, there's a waiting period that ends up running about 10 days from purchase to approval by the state police. If you are suicidal and want a gun to end it and you don't have one, you might change your mind in 10 days. Not likely. Most people who seriously contemplate suicide, eventually decide to do it. Japan has a much higher suicide rate than the US and they have virtually zero firearms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara They're really good at sharpening knives too. Salmonbait I love my Japanese water stone. I have also used a Dozuki too. And, I pulled the Dozuki across my finger nail by accident once. It always amazes me when you do something stupid to yourself and the first things you see is the blood, bright red and oozing, and them the pain hits. Yesterday I was scratching around in my desk drawer for something and felt something sharp, but not bad. Turned out to be a single edge razor blade. Had blood all over the place. I'm thinking, "Why the **** did I leave a razor blade in my desk drawer?" Oh well. Salmonbait -- "That's not a baby kicking, dear Bride, that's just a fetus!" ....and now you'll be a gun owners?? Lord help the unsuspecting citizens of your town. Singular or plural? Please make up your mind Donnie. |
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On 2/20/2013 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:
On Feb 20, 6:45 am, "F.O.A.D." wrote: The decline in personal, face to face communications began in earnest with the advent in the 1980s of bulletin boards and commercial services like CompuServ. All the smart phones have done in that regard is make such "communication" more accessible and portable. I see virtually none of the foul behavior you mentioned on the moderated boards I frequent for chatting and learning more about boating, computers, smart phones. I see very little of it on FaceBook, but then, I do pick and choose my friends there, and if I encounter someone who is overly aggressive or foul-mouthed or insulting, I just drop that person. I'm in a couple of affinity groups with literally hundreds of posters and virtually everyone seems to behave reasonably. rec.boats was a reasonably pleasant place until the extreme righties drove almost everyone off. Most of the posters here are righties, and they've tea-partied the joint. There's less than a handful of us remaining here who are moderate right to moderate left and in the middle. Harry, I'm glad I read this before I went to work. This was the laugh of the day. Thanks again! LOL, you read his whole post! Thanks for starting my morning right:) |
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On 2/20/2013 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 2/19/2013 5:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/19/13 5:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Make cell phones and computer screens blank out at 10 mph.. but they will never do that... Yeah...what happens if you are a passenger in a car or on a train or in a bus? You really don't know anything about anything. Maybe you could go a few minutes without posting lame insults to usenet? But of course typical liberal, that would save millions of lives, but it would inconvenience you so of course you are against it. Not like you are working all that hard to pay back the folks you stole from with your several bankruptcies... Being of the lazy, non-working type, you may not know this but a lot of people actually get work done on their commutes with such conveniences. You see, in the real world where people are employed, productivity is a good thing. You should try it. So, what are you doing for work lately? Oh wait, you are embarrassed to say, I get it... |
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says... On 2/20/2013 9:01 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 2/19/2013 4:57 PM, Salmonbait wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:13:19 -0800, Urin Asshole wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:48:20 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 2/19/13 9:00 AM, Eisboch wrote: For kicks I looked up the leading causes of death in the USA. Data is the final numbers from 2010 as published by the Center for Disease Control. Surprisingly, firearms related deaths didn't make the top ten and firearms related homicides weren't even close to the top ten. It's interesting that deaths caused by traffic accidents numbered about 3 times those of homicides involving firearms, but all the focus is on more gun control laws. Personal note: This is not a excuse of deaths caused by firearms, but rather an attempt to put it all in perspective. Heart disease: 597,689 Cancer: 574,743 Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476 Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859 Alzheimer's disease: 83,494 Diabetes: 69,071 Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476 Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097 Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364 Traffic accidents: 33,808 Firearms: 30,470 (19,392 suicides, 11,078 homicides) There are solid statistically based predictions that state that firearms deaths will exceed traffic accident deaths in a couple of years. Oh, you forgot to list the number of Americans who die of old age. :) On a more serious note, I only took one college-level statistics course and have forgotten most of what I ever learned about that sort of math, so I asked a family member who has taken four graduate-level stats courses about these sorts of comparisons (gun deaths vs. car deaths vs. cancer deaths, et cetera) and got a chuckle in response. "Such comparisions are based on silliness and are statistically absurd. Yes, more people die of cancer than of gunshot wounds but...so what?" ========================== The number that surprised me was deaths by homicide involving firearms. I read the same thing you did regarding firearm deaths exceeding traffic deaths by 2015 however that includes suicides. Unfortunately, although a gun is the method of choice for most suicides, further gun restrictions won't eliminate them. As stated in my post, the data is presented simply to put things in perspective. 11,078 firearms related homicides is too many of course but it's a reflection of violence in our society ... which also cannot be totally eliminated. There are bad people in the world. But the number is not the huge number that some of the media and proponents of even more gun control measure would like you to believe. My state has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation. Permits require background checks and every purchase of a firearm at a dealer involves a telephone check and taking of an electronic fingerprint to verify that you are who you say you are and your permit is valid. You must present a valid permit even for ammunition purchases. But, our me-too governor has proposed and is pushing for even more restrictive laws including jail time for purchasing more than one firearm per month for existing permit holders, making getting a permit more difficult, and putting a heavy state tax (up to 50%) on all ammunition sales (even range target practice rounds). I don't see how that is going to affect the homicide rate by firearms in the country. All it is is political posturing in reaction to a horrible but isolated event caused by a kid who was severely disturbed .... as are all cases of mass murders. By that twisted ****ing logic, we might as well do away with the NTSB and all the other safety protocols, since they result in fewer deaths. How about faulty cribs. What a load of horse****. You have a product that's killing 1000s of people, but since it doesn't kill as many as cancer, it's ok. Where, Mr. U. Asshole, did he say 'it's OK'? He never did, that's how loogie starts more dumb tangents... he's a liar, not a man at all, just a disturbed little twit like harry, looking for success on the net. Makes them feel better for their failures to come here and pretend they are useful to somebody... We all know loog almost drank himself to death, \ Cite? then pushed his wife down the stairs, Cite? then his kid, Cite? then left the bbq burning on his porch almost burned his kid out of her bed..... Cite? In other words, not one bit of truth, you lying pig. you low life scum come here and say that others are lying, and NONE of the above is true. What a piece of **** you really, truly are. You don't even have the balls to support your family. Now go roll some Bugler for your cancerous wife, asshole. Looks like I got you pinned kevin... later bitch... Hey, you stupid little tool, I asked you for cites, have any, you lying piece of ****? |
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says... On 2/20/2013 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 2/19/2013 5:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/19/13 5:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Make cell phones and computer screens blank out at 10 mph.. but they will never do that... Yeah...what happens if you are a passenger in a car or on a train or in a bus? You really don't know anything about anything. Maybe you could go a few minutes without posting lame insults to usenet? But of course typical liberal, that would save millions of lives, but it would inconvenience you so of course you are against it. Not like you are working all that hard to pay back the folks you stole from with your several bankruptcies... Being of the lazy, non-working type, you may not know this but a lot of people actually get work done on their commutes with such conveniences. You see, in the real world where people are employed, productivity is a good thing. You should try it. So, what are you doing for work lately? Oh wait, you are embarrassed to say, I get it... More than you, you lazy ****. |
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says... On 2/20/2013 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 2/19/2013 5:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/19/13 5:17 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Make cell phones and computer screens blank out at 10 mph.. but they will never do that... Yeah...what happens if you are a passenger in a car or on a train or in a bus? You really don't know anything about anything. Maybe you could go a few minutes without posting lame insults to usenet? But of course typical liberal, that would save millions of lives, but it would inconvenience you so of course you are against it. Not like you are working all that hard to pay back the folks you stole from with your several bankruptcies... Being of the lazy, non-working type, you may not know this but a lot of people actually get work done on their commutes with such conveniences. You see, in the real world where people are employed, productivity is a good thing. You should try it. So, what are you doing for work lately? Oh wait, you are embarrassed to say, I get it... Oh, I thought you knew who I was and knew all about me.... huh..... |
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