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F.O.A.D. February 17th 13 07:04 PM

Such a stink!
 
On 2/17/13 12:50 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:47:35 -0500, Meyer wrote:


This is America. The lawyers may not be able to do anything about the
ship and crew but they will the Carnival front office. That is a land
based US business and they will say it was negligent corporate
decisions that were responsible for the accident and the problems in
the cleanup.

Whether they get away with it is anyone's guess but what do the
lawyers have to lose? Only their time.
In most of those other countries, loser pays. That cuts down on
frivolous suits a bit


This incident will only serve to make future potential cruise ship
passengers more aware that they have very few, if any, rights aboard
cruise ships. When **** happens, there is not a whole lot you can do
about it. Carnival is probably more worried about bad publicity than
compensating their passengers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2697774.html

The lady who sued McDonalds because she spilled her coffee didn't have
a case in most people's minds either but she still got a huge
judgement and even though it was reduced later, the lawyer fees were
still being racked up.



You think the engineroom watch was "contracted out"? :)

What about lost vacation time? For some people that represents a real
loss in terms of time or money or both.


--
I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist
racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work
for me.

iBoaterer[_2_] February 17th 13 07:10 PM

Such a stink!
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:47:35 -0500, Meyer wrote:


This is America. The lawyers may not be able to do anything about the
ship and crew but they will the Carnival front office. That is a land
based US business and they will say it was negligent corporate
decisions that were responsible for the accident and the problems in
the cleanup.

Whether they get away with it is anyone's guess but what do the
lawyers have to lose? Only their time.
In most of those other countries, loser pays. That cuts down on
frivolous suits a bit


This incident will only serve to make future potential cruise ship
passengers more aware that they have very few, if any, rights aboard
cruise ships. When **** happens, there is not a whole lot you can do
about it. Carnival is probably more worried about bad publicity than
compensating their passengers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2697774.html

The lady who sued McDonalds because she spilled her coffee didn't have
a case in most people's minds either but she still got a huge
judgement and even though it was reduced later, the lawyer fees were
still being racked up.


If you use the Costa Concordia debacle as precedent, you'll see that
Maritime law IS very different and makes it much, much harder to make a
paying case against Carnival.

iBoaterer[_2_] February 17th 13 08:18 PM

Such a stink!
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:10:26 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


The lady who sued McDonalds because she spilled her coffee didn't have
a case in most people's minds either but she still got a huge
judgement and even though it was reduced later, the lawyer fees were
still being racked up.


If you use the Costa Concordia debacle as precedent, you'll see that
Maritime law IS very different and makes it much, much harder to make a
paying case against Carnival.


I never underestimate the ability of US tort lawyers to create
litigation where no legal grounds exist. Carnival will still have to
fight this in court, just to prove they are protected my maritime law.

At a certain point, cutting a check to the passengers and their
lawyers, becomes the cheaper option.


Yes, and it's all by design.

F.O.A.D. February 17th 13 09:00 PM

Such a stink!
 
On 2/17/13 1:10 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:47:35 -0500, Meyer wrote:


This is America. The lawyers may not be able to do anything about the
ship and crew but they will the Carnival front office. That is a land
based US business and they will say it was negligent corporate
decisions that were responsible for the accident and the problems in
the cleanup.

Whether they get away with it is anyone's guess but what do the
lawyers have to lose? Only their time.
In most of those other countries, loser pays. That cuts down on
frivolous suits a bit


This incident will only serve to make future potential cruise ship
passengers more aware that they have very few, if any, rights aboard
cruise ships. When **** happens, there is not a whole lot you can do
about it. Carnival is probably more worried about bad publicity than
compensating their passengers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2697774.html

The lady who sued McDonalds because she spilled her coffee didn't have
a case in most people's minds either but she still got a huge
judgement and even though it was reduced later, the lawyer fees were
still being racked up.


If you use the Costa Concordia debacle as precedent, you'll see that
Maritime law IS very different and makes it much, much harder to make a
paying case against Carnival.


There are lots of foreign-flagged cruise ships that service mainly US
ports. It would be possible to require that these ships become
US-flagged ships. The Concordia is a different case, of course.


--
I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist
racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work
for me.


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