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Jailbreaking iPhone...the saga continues...
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says... In article , says... On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:27:20 -0500, Meyer wrote: There are Android apps for all of that stuff. That is because Android is an open OS. Anyone can write an Android ap. Apple is a closed OS and if Steve Jobs didn't think you needed it, you couldn't have it ... hence the jailbreak. Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids. Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is what it is and therefore everybody's is the same. |
Jailbreaking iPhone...the saga continues...
On 2/16/13 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:27:20 -0500, Meyer wrote: There are Android apps for all of that stuff. That is because Android is an open OS. Anyone can write an Android ap. Apple is a closed OS and if Steve Jobs didn't think you needed it, you couldn't have it ... hence the jailbreak. Yup, exactly the reason I am fully vested in Android technology, open source. I liked my rooted Android phone when I had it. In terms of usefulness, I don't see much difference between the Android phones and iPhones. I am not "drowning" in apps. I do wish the engineers and manufacturers of these phones would spend more time on improving the "phone" aspect and less time on the non-phone gimmickry. -- I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work for me. |
Jailbreaking iPhone...the saga continues...
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says... On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids. Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is what it is and therefore everybody's is the same. That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2 PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources. I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the conflicts I might encounter. I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone, it is on him to fix it now. I remember those days, company I worked for had a Compaq computer and every card in it had to be from Compaq, including the modem. |
Jailbreaking iPhone...the saga continues...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids. Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is what it is and therefore everybody's is the same. That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2 PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources. I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the conflicts I might encounter. I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone, it is on him to fix it now. Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back in some folders. Too about an hour. Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh.. |
Jailbreaking iPhone...the saga continues...
On 2/16/13 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids. Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is what it is and therefore everybody's is the same. That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2 PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources. I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the conflicts I might encounter. I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone, it is on him to fix it now. Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back in some folders. Too about an hour. Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh.. :) I think the phrase "bricked" has devolved. The way I learned it, "bricked" meant, basically, destroyed and unlikely to come back to life. By that definition, I've not bricked any of my smart phones. I have inadvertently put them into "safe mode" on occasion, but the recovery was easy. As for iBlacklist, I had a minor issue with it regarding keyboard entry. The keyboard would turn blue and cover the input areas. I could fix it temporarily by a respring. So I sent an email to the app's author, he told me it was a known issue, and pointed me to a software workaround that in fact works, and also told me the next app update will have a permanent fix. I'm pretty careful about what I load onto my computers or smart phones or tablets. Compared to many users, I don't have many Cydia apps on my iPhone. And as you point out, there is plenty of help on the web. -- I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work for me. |
Jailbreaking iPhone...the saga continues...
On 2/16/2013 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids. Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is what it is and therefore everybody's is the same. That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2 PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources. I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the conflicts I might encounter. I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone, it is on him to fix it now. Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back in some folders. Too about an hour. Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh.. Aren't you going to tell Harry which app it was? Snerk |
Jailbreaking iPhone...the saga continues...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:23:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/16/13 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids. Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is what it is and therefore everybody's is the same. That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2 PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources. I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the conflicts I might encounter. I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone, it is on him to fix it now. Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back in some folders. Too about an hour. Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh.. :) I think the phrase "bricked" has devolved. The way I learned it, "bricked" meant, basically, destroyed and unlikely to come back to life. By that definition, I've not bricked any of my smart phones. I have inadvertently put them into "safe mode" on occasion, but the recovery was easy. As for iBlacklist, I had a minor issue with it regarding keyboard entry. The keyboard would turn blue and cover the input areas. I could fix it temporarily by a respring. So I sent an email to the app's author, he told me it was a known issue, and pointed me to a software workaround that in fact works, and also told me the next app update will have a permanent fix. I'm pretty careful about what I load onto my computers or smart phones or tablets. Compared to many users, I don't have many Cydia apps on my iPhone. And as you point out, there is plenty of help on the web. My definition is when it won't boot up not even safemode. That's what happened. I've heard of hurlers (people who throw their phones when they're ****ed off). |
Jailbreaking iPhone...the saga continues...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:08:01 -0500, Meyer wrote:
On 2/16/2013 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids. Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is what it is and therefore everybody's is the same. That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2 PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources. I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the conflicts I might encounter. I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone, it is on him to fix it now. Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back in some folders. Too about an hour. Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh.. Aren't you going to tell Harry which app it was? Snerk Yeah, you're stupid. We get it. |
Jailbreaking iPhone...the saga continues...
In article om,
says... On 2/16/2013 1:52 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:49:48 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:11:29 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Corporate America likes the iPhones over the Androids. Yes, and exactly for Greg's reasons that the iPhone is closed, it is what it is and therefore everybody's is the same. That is also the reason corporate America embraced the IBM PS/2 PCs.Guys were not buying mail order cards and loading shaky drivers on their "work" machines. Everything was licensed and verified that it would not conflict with anything else. You didn't have all those IRQ conflicts and drivers stealing each other's resources. I had all the PS/2 parts I wanted and ran them for years until I started wanting to do things IBM did not think a PS/2 user needed. I was not going to trade IBM's vision for Apple's vision of what I wanted so I went for the open hardware of WinTel and I deal with the conflicts I might encounter. I am sure Harry understands that if an ap he buys "bricks" his phone, it is on him to fix it now. Well, here's a little tidbit. So one of the apps I got from Harry's list.. iBlacklst bricked my iphone. wouldn't boot up past the apple. I got into it with SSH, renamed the Application folder .. found out how on the web, no big deal. The phone booted up. So, I renamed the folder back to the original name, then got into Cydia, removed the app, then downloaded another one to fix the icons not displaying properly. I restored the phone from the last backup (itunes creates one when you sync... the only hassle I had was remembering the backup password, but I found it) All I had to do past that was put some of the icons back in some folders. Too about an hour. Oh, and **** you Harry. Heh.. Aren't you going to tell Harry which app it was? Snerk My iPhone is a tool. I don't need to play with it and load any application on it I believe I need. When someone calls me I need the phone to ring and enable me to answer the call and talk to the other person. Next I need to be able to use the e-mail and calendar capability. |
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