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ESAD January 2nd 13 12:43 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:

http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v


Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.


Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.

BAR[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:01 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:

http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v

Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.


Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.


With liberty does have its downside.

Tim January 2nd 13 01:13 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
On Jan 2, 6:43*am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:


http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v


Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.


Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.


They don't pic ALL national statistics, though. And who determines
what countries are 'civilized' and which ones aren't?

ESAD January 2nd 13 01:19 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
On 1/2/13 8:13 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 2, 6:43 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:


http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v


Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.


Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.


They don't pic ALL national statistics, though. And who determines
what countries are 'civilized' and which ones aren't?



In a chart showing "homicide rates," what other national statistics
would you include? I'd guess on that list of countries, we'd also be
"the leader" in crimes of violence in most categories. My guess is that
if the chart showed "homicide by firearm rates," we'd be way, way higher.

What's important, I think, is to find out *why* we have so much violence
against people in this country and what we can do about it.

The countries on the list seem representative of modern, western-style
democracies. Which modern, western-style countries with homicide rates
higher than the United States do you think are missing from the list?





BAR[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:22 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
In article 56beeaa7-ea6d-4935-9b38-
, says...

On Jan 2, 6:43*am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:


http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v

Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.


Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.


They don't pic ALL national statistics, though. And who determines
what countries are 'civilized' and which ones aren't?


We are civilized and they are barbarians. Substitute any countries you
want for "We" and "they."



BAR[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:29 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/2/13 8:13 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 2, 6:43 am, ESAD wrote:
On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:

http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v

Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.

Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.


They don't pic ALL national statistics, though. And who determines
what countries are 'civilized' and which ones aren't?



In a chart showing "homicide rates," what other national statistics
would you include? I'd guess on that list of countries, we'd also be
"the leader" in crimes of violence in most categories. My guess is that
if the chart showed "homicide by firearm rates," we'd be way, way higher.

What's important, I think, is to find out *why* we have so much violence
against people in this country and what we can do about it.


We are waiting for the big story to come out of Calvert County where the
headline reads "Crazed Gun Nut Shoots Girl Scouts Just For Knocking On
His Front Door"

The countries on the list seem representative of modern, western-style
democracies. Which modern, western-style countries with homicide rates
higher than the United States do you think are missing from the list?




iBoaterer[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:44 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
In article ,
says...

On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:

http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v

Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.


Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.


Ted Nugent and the NRA!

Meyer[_2_] January 2nd 13 01:48 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
On 1/2/2013 7:43 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:

http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v


Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.


Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.


Lots of deranged angry folks like you? Bad upbringing is my guess.

iBoaterer[_2_] January 2nd 13 03:01 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
In article om,
says...

On 1/2/2013 7:43 AM, ESAD wrote:
On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:

http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v

Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.


Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.


Lots of deranged angry folks like you? Bad upbringing is my guess.


Someone here said that any teacher who has mental problems has the kids
to blame 100%....

ESAD January 2nd 13 05:40 PM

That stupid thing about "guns don't kill people"
 
On 1/2/13 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 07:43:03 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/1/13 11:31 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19 2012, 3:46 pm, iBoaterer wrote:
This pretty much sums up that idiotic statement:

http://tinyurl.com/boyty2v

Always looking for another side of opinion, I looked to the reply
responses as well as the article.


Most interesting, the chart shows the homicide rate in this country at
least three to four times the rate of most other so-called civilized
western countries. I wonder why that is.


They don't have a drug war or the ethnic mix we have. We have a higher
murder rate with blunt instruments than most countries have murder,
all weapons. Finland is an exception tho.

It is interesting that suicide by gun is usually close to being tried
with murder. When you look at other countries suicide rates the
numbers start closing.


Certain "drugs" are a contributing factor, but I think the core causes
can be found in the fact that we are a violent society, we accept
violence as a way to settle disputes, we like violence in our major
sport (pro football), we have politicians who like to stir up hatred.



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