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ESAD December 18th 12 02:38 PM

Is the NRA...
 
.... a terrorist organization?

Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:

is ineluctably political in aims and motives

is violent – or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")

is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target

is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.

Sounds like the NRA to me.

Meyer[_2_] December 18th 12 02:47 PM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/18/2012 9:38 AM, ESAD wrote:
.... a terrorist organization?

Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:

is ineluctably political in aims and motives

is violent – or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")

is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target

is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.

Sounds like the NRA to me.


Sounds like the diabolical Krause and associates to me. ;-)

Tim December 18th 12 10:49 PM

Is the NRA...
 
On Dec 18, 8:38*am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?

Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:

is ineluctably political in aims and motives

is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")

is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target

is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.


nope.

Sounds like the NRA to me.


maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.


ESAD December 18th 12 11:22 PM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/18/12 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 18, 8:38 am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?

Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:

is ineluctably political in aims and motives

is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")

is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target

is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.


nope.

Sounds like the NRA to me.


maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.


Well, we shall see what happens. The only bright spots the last few days
have been the insane comments by the lunatic from the Gun Owners of
America and, of course, that loon, Mike Huckabee.

Tim December 19th 12 12:02 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On Dec 18, 5:22*pm, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:









On Dec 18, 8:38 am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?


Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:


is ineluctably political in aims and motives


is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")


is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target


is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.


nope.


Sounds like the NRA to me.


maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.


Well, we shall see what happens. The only bright spots the last few days
have been the insane comments by the lunatic from the Gun Owners of
America and, of course, that loon, Mike Huckabee.


Well, Huck's statement o Facebook has gotten his thousands of 'likes'
hundreds of 'shares' and less than 1500 comments - mostly seething.

But speaking of loons. Take the article for what one will, but I'm
sure the tweets are real-

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/li...comment-133694

ESAD December 19th 12 12:08 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/18/12 7:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 18, 5:22 pm, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:









On Dec 18, 8:38 am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?


Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:


is ineluctably political in aims and motives


is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")


is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target


is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.


nope.


Sounds like the NRA to me.


maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.


Well, we shall see what happens. The only bright spots the last few days
have been the insane comments by the lunatic from the Gun Owners of
America and, of course, that loon, Mike Huckabee.


Well, Huck's statement o Facebook has gotten his thousands of 'likes'
hundreds of 'shares' and less than 1500 comments - mostly seething.

But speaking of loons. Take the article for what one will, but I'm
sure the tweets are real-

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/li...comment-133694



Uh-huh. Please let me know when a "liberal" as prominent as Huckabee, a
former candidate for the U.S. presidency, a former governor and a
preacher with a TV show, calls for the assassination of the NRA leader.
It's no surprise that Huckabee's idiotic claim has received thousands of
"likes" from like-minded morons.

BTW, did I miss your comment after I posted the article about the new
U.S. Senator from SC calling for a statue to be erected to memorialize
aborted fetuses?

JustWait[_2_] December 19th 12 01:20 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/18/2012 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 18, 8:38 am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?

Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:

is ineluctably political in aims and motives

is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")

is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target

is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.


nope.

Sounds like the NRA to me.


maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.


Especially the Unions. They advocate violence and produce it, look at
Wisconsin last week. The NRA has never come out and said "there will be
blood" and then gone out and drawn blood, that very day...

JustWait[_2_] December 19th 12 01:21 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/18/2012 7:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 18, 5:22 pm, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:









On Dec 18, 8:38 am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?


Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:


is ineluctably political in aims and motives


is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")


is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target


is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.


nope.


Sounds like the NRA to me.


maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.


Well, we shall see what happens. The only bright spots the last few days
have been the insane comments by the lunatic from the Gun Owners of
America and, of course, that loon, Mike Huckabee.


Well, Huck's statement o Facebook has gotten his thousands of 'likes'
hundreds of 'shares' and less than 1500 comments - mostly seething.

But speaking of loons. Take the article for what one will, but I'm
sure the tweets are real-

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/li...comment-133694


Yup, that's our tolerant party... :)

JustWait[_2_] December 19th 12 01:22 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/18/2012 7:08 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 7:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 18, 5:22 pm, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:









On Dec 18, 8:38 am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?

Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:

is ineluctably political in aims and motives

is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")

is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond
the
immediate victim or target

is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of
command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.

nope.

Sounds like the NRA to me.

maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.

Well, we shall see what happens. The only bright spots the last few days
have been the insane comments by the lunatic from the Gun Owners of
America and, of course, that loon, Mike Huckabee.


Well, Huck's statement o Facebook has gotten his thousands of 'likes'
hundreds of 'shares' and less than 1500 comments - mostly seething.

But speaking of loons. Take the article for what one will, but I'm
sure the tweets are real-

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/li...comment-133694




Uh-huh. Please let me know when a "liberal" as prominent as Huckabee, a
former candidate for the U.S. presidency, a former governor and a
preacher with a TV show, calls for the assassination of the NRA leader.


You had a Wisconsin elected lawmaker call for blood the other day, hours
before the spermburper attacked the tents and reporters...


It's no surprise that Huckabee's idiotic claim has received thousands of
"likes" from like-minded morons.

BTW, did I miss your comment after I posted the article about the new
U.S. Senator from SC calling for a statue to be erected to memorialize
aborted fetuses?



Tim December 19th 12 03:00 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On Dec 18, 6:08*pm, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 7:02 PM, Tim wrote:









On Dec 18, 5:22 pm, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:


On Dec 18, 8:38 am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?


Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:


is ineluctably political in aims and motives


is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")


is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target


is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.


nope.


Sounds like the NRA to me.


maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.


Well, we shall see what happens. The only bright spots the last few days
have been the insane comments by the lunatic from the Gun Owners of
America and, of course, that loon, Mike Huckabee.


Well, Huck's statement o Facebook has gotten his thousands of 'likes'
hundreds of 'shares' and less than 1500 comments - mostly seething.


But speaking of loons. Take the article for what one will, but I'm
sure the tweets are real-


http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/li...der-of-nra-pre...


Uh-huh. Please let me know when a "liberal" as prominent as Huckabee, a
former candidate for the U.S. presidency, a former governor and a
preacher with a TV show, calls for the assassination of the NRA leader.


Did Huck promote an assassination?

It's no surprise that Huckabee's idiotic claim has received thousands of
"likes" from like-minded morons.


Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.


BTW, did I miss your comment after I posted the article about the new
U.S. Senator from SC calling for a statue to be erected to memorialize
aborted fetuses?


I haven't seen it. I dont' get around to ALL the replies in here. On
GoogleGroups there's a lot of threads with a lot of comments and I
don't get e-mail notes on threads I've posted to. I'll get there
eventually.

thumper December 19th 12 06:52 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.


By the self-selected group of followers.


Tim December 19th 12 09:31 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On Dec 19, 12:52*am, thumper wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.


By the self-selected group of followers.


I may be wrong, but I believe his page is public

http://www.facebook.com/mikehuckabee?ref=ts&fref=ts

ESAD December 19th 12 11:32 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/19/12 4:31 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19, 12:52 am, thumper wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.


By the self-selected group of followers.


I may be wrong, but I believe his page is public

http://www.facebook.com/mikehuckabee?ref=ts&fref=ts


Who said there was a shortage of simple-minded followers for demagogues
like Huckster Huckabee?

Tim December 19th 12 12:50 PM

Is the NRA...
 
On Dec 19, 5:32*am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/19/12 4:31 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 19, 12:52 am, thumper wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:


Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.


By the self-selected group of followers.


I may be wrong, but I believe his page is public


http://www.facebook.com/mikehuckabee?ref=ts&fref=ts


Who said there was a shortage of simple-minded followers for demagogues
like Huckster Huckabee?


I won't be, Harry, but there's plenty that you could say the same
about our president, too

BAR[_2_] December 19th 12 12:53 PM

Is the NRA...
 
In article ,
says...

... a terrorist organization?

Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:


If wikipedia is to be used as the source of authority for terrorist
organizations all you need to do is get an wikipedia account and change
any datum you want to classify it as a terrorist organization.

is ineluctably political in aims and motives


Labor unions.

is violent ? or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")


Labor unions.

is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target


Labor unions.

is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.


Labor unions.

Sounds like the NRA to me.


Sounds like labor unions.



ESAD December 19th 12 01:07 PM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/19/12 7:50 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19, 5:32 am, ESAD wrote:
On 12/19/12 4:31 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 19, 12:52 am, thumper wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:


Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.


By the self-selected group of followers.


I may be wrong, but I believe his page is public


http://www.facebook.com/mikehuckabee?ref=ts&fref=ts


Who said there was a shortage of simple-minded followers for demagogues
like Huckster Huckabee?


I won't be, Harry, but there's plenty that you could say the same
about our president, too


Every politician has dumb followers, but I don't see any of the
president's followers as dumb as those who "follow" a man whose entire
premise is based upon ignorance and superstition and who says things
like the cause of the shootings was the lack of god and religion in the
public schools. There is none of that moral equivalency here. Huckabee
is a huckster and charlatan.

iBoaterer[_2_] December 19th 12 03:00 PM

Is the NRA...
 
In article f7970314-f45e-45c8-a566-
, says...

On Dec 18, 5:22*pm, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:









On Dec 18, 8:38 am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?


Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:


is ineluctably political in aims and motives


is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")


is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the
immediate victim or target


is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.


nope.


Sounds like the NRA to me.


maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.


Well, we shall see what happens. The only bright spots the last few days
have been the insane comments by the lunatic from the Gun Owners of
America and, of course, that loon, Mike Huckabee.


Well, Huck's statement o Facebook has gotten his thousands of 'likes'
hundreds of 'shares' and less than 1500 comments - mostly seething.

But speaking of loons. Take the article for what one will, but I'm
sure the tweets are real-

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/li...comment-133694

Guaranteed there are fanatics on either side of the politcal fence, just
take a look here!!

iBoaterer[_2_] December 19th 12 03:02 PM

Is the NRA...
 
In article , says...

On 12/18/2012 7:08 PM, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 7:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 18, 5:22 pm, ESAD wrote:
On 12/18/12 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:









On Dec 18, 8:38 am, ESAD wrote:
... a terrorist organization?

Wikipedia has a handful of scholarly or semi-scholarly definitions of
terrorism. One of these states that a terrorist organization:

is ineluctably political in aims and motives

is violent or, equally important, threatens violence (uh, like "cold,
dead hands?")

is designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond
the
immediate victim or target

is conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of
command or
conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or
identifying insignia) and perpetrated by a subnational group or
non-state entity.

nope.

Sounds like the NRA to me.

maybe so, but you could say the same about any organization, Harry.
And that includes most Corporations as well as Unions.

Well, we shall see what happens. The only bright spots the last few days
have been the insane comments by the lunatic from the Gun Owners of
America and, of course, that loon, Mike Huckabee.

Well, Huck's statement o Facebook has gotten his thousands of 'likes'
hundreds of 'shares' and less than 1500 comments - mostly seething.

But speaking of loons. Take the article for what one will, but I'm
sure the tweets are real-

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/li...comment-133694




Uh-huh. Please let me know when a "liberal" as prominent as Huckabee, a
former candidate for the U.S. presidency, a former governor and a
preacher with a TV show, calls for the assassination of the NRA leader.


You had a Wisconsin elected lawmaker call for blood the other day, hours
before the spermburper attacked the tents and reporters...


Huh?

thumper December 19th 12 04:37 PM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/19/2012 1:31 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19, 12:52 am, thumper wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.


By the self-selected group of followers.


I may be wrong, but I believe his page is public

http://www.facebook.com/mikehuckabee?ref=ts&fref=ts


And the followers are a self selected group that 'like' him more than
not... not a surprise.

Meyer[_2_] December 19th 12 05:34 PM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/19/2012 11:37 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/19/2012 1:31 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19, 12:52 am, thumper wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.

By the self-selected group of followers.


I may be wrong, but I believe his page is public

http://www.facebook.com/mikehuckabee?ref=ts&fref=ts


And the followers are a self selected group that 'like' him more than
not... not a surprise.


And whom have you self selected to follow?

iBoaterer[_2_] December 19th 12 07:13 PM

Is the NRA...
 
In article om,
says...

On 12/19/2012 11:37 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/19/2012 1:31 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19, 12:52 am, thumper wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.

By the self-selected group of followers.

I may be wrong, but I believe his page is public

http://www.facebook.com/mikehuckabee?ref=ts&fref=ts


And the followers are a self selected group that 'like' him more than
not... not a surprise.


And whom have you self selected to follow?


I follow Ghandi for one.

GuzzisRule December 19th 12 08:42 PM

Is the NRA...
 
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:13:08 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article om,
says...

On 12/19/2012 11:37 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/19/2012 1:31 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19, 12:52 am, thumper wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.

By the self-selected group of followers.

I may be wrong, but I believe his page is public

http://www.facebook.com/mikehuckabee?ref=ts&fref=ts


And the followers are a self selected group that 'like' him more than
not... not a surprise.


And whom have you self selected to follow?


I follow Ghandi for one.


So when are you leaving, Kevin?

iBoaterer[_2_] December 19th 12 08:42 PM

Is the NRA...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:13:08 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

And whom have you self selected to follow?


I follow Ghandi for one.


I hope it turns out better for you than him.


What harm did I following Ghandi do to him?

ESAD December 19th 12 09:57 PM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/19/12 3:01 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:13:08 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

And whom have you self selected to follow?


I follow Ghandi for one.


I hope it turns out better for you than him.



Life turned out pretty well for the Mahatma. At the end of a long life,
he was assassinated, but he helped give birth to a new nation. Your life
won't turn out that well.

thumper December 20th 12 03:29 AM

Is the NRA...
 
On 12/19/2012 9:34 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 12/19/2012 11:37 AM, thumper wrote:
On 12/19/2012 1:31 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 19, 12:52 am, thumper wrote:
On 12/18/2012 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

Th e point is, that on Facebook, he's more liked than not.

By the self-selected group of followers.

I may be wrong, but I believe his page is public

http://www.facebook.com/mikehuckabee?ref=ts&fref=ts


And the followers are a self selected group that 'like' him more than
not... not a surprise.


And whom have you self selected to follow?


No facebook for me.


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