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Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:28:00 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. There toward the end they have that little girl looking up at a 370/m155 and the picture before that has a 360/m20 and a string of 2401 tape drives but they are not credited as being IBM. ----------------------- We replaced a 360/m20 at Macy's Calif in about 1966. Was a no mag file 360. All card and paper tape. We replaced it with an NCR 315 with mag tapes. Worked for NCR in those days. I could not believe that IBM could supply a 360 without tapes. (for the youngsters, was not disk drives as you know them.) |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:25:48 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:28:00 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. There toward the end they have that little girl looking up at a 370/m155 and the picture before that has a 360/m20 and a string of 2401 tape drives but they are not credited as being IBM. ----------------------- We replaced a 360/m20 at Macy's Calif in about 1966. Was a no mag file 360. All card and paper tape. We replaced it with an NCR 315 with mag tapes. Worked for NCR in those days. I could not believe that IBM could supply a 360 without tapes. (for the youngsters, was not disk drives as you know them.) The Mod 20 was always a niche machine that was dropped into unit record accounts with a software package that was intuitive for people who were used to wiring 407 boards. I never had a mod 20 account myself but I was in them occasionally. Most were card only because that was what these people understood. If they stepped up, we sold them a mod 30 or a 25. Some went straight to a 3125 and VSE after years of hanging on to cards. As an aside, the real reason states get rid of punch card voting machines is because it is hard finding a system with a card reader on it. (not Bush v Gore) IBM got out of the card reader business years ago ------------------------------ I still have a couple cases of Tab Cards (only IBM called them some other name). True on card readers. NCR had the best of them, 2000 card a minute reader, and hardest to read was an almost blank card, as that show any slippage. We marketed it, but was made by (senior moment) the main maker of postage machines, NCR 380. Pitney-Bowes. |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
On 11/30/2012 12:38 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:25:48 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:28:00 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. There toward the end they have that little girl looking up at a 370/m155 and the picture before that has a 360/m20 and a string of 2401 tape drives but they are not credited as being IBM. ----------------------- We replaced a 360/m20 at Macy's Calif in about 1966. Was a no mag file 360. All card and paper tape. We replaced it with an NCR 315 with mag tapes. Worked for NCR in those days. I could not believe that IBM could supply a 360 without tapes. (for the youngsters, was not disk drives as you know them.) The Mod 20 was always a niche machine that was dropped into unit record accounts with a software package that was intuitive for people who were used to wiring 407 boards. I never had a mod 20 account myself but I was in them occasionally. Most were card only because that was what these people understood. If they stepped up, we sold them a mod 30 or a 25. Some went straight to a 3125 and VSE after years of hanging on to cards. As an aside, the real reason states get rid of punch card voting machines is because it is hard finding a system with a card reader on it. (not Bush v Gore) IBM got out of the card reader business years ago ------------------------------ I still have a couple cases of Tab Cards (only IBM called them some other name). True on card readers. NCR had the best of them, 2000 card a minute reader, and hardest to read was an almost blank card, as that show any slippage. We marketed it, but was made by (senior moment) the main maker of postage machines, NCR 380. Pitney-Bowes. I remember boxes of cards in our house. Hell, I made forts with them. I was a bit young, probably 6-8 when my mom ran the town school "computer"... It was in two air conditioned classrooms and had the big sorting machine with the with the cards running through. |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:03:57 -0500, JustWait wrote: I remember boxes of cards in our house. Hell, I made forts with them. I was a bit young, probably 6-8 when my mom ran the town school "computer"... I still have a few boxes of cards here. They still make great things to write notes on. ----------------------- Post-its, and tab cards. 90% of our note material. |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
On 11/30/12 1:03 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/30/2012 12:38 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:25:48 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:28:00 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. There toward the end they have that little girl looking up at a 370/m155 and the picture before that has a 360/m20 and a string of 2401 tape drives but they are not credited as being IBM. ----------------------- We replaced a 360/m20 at Macy's Calif in about 1966. Was a no mag file 360. All card and paper tape. We replaced it with an NCR 315 with mag tapes. Worked for NCR in those days. I could not believe that IBM could supply a 360 without tapes. (for the youngsters, was not disk drives as you know them.) The Mod 20 was always a niche machine that was dropped into unit record accounts with a software package that was intuitive for people who were used to wiring 407 boards. I never had a mod 20 account myself but I was in them occasionally. Most were card only because that was what these people understood. If they stepped up, we sold them a mod 30 or a 25. Some went straight to a 3125 and VSE after years of hanging on to cards. As an aside, the real reason states get rid of punch card voting machines is because it is hard finding a system with a card reader on it. (not Bush v Gore) IBM got out of the card reader business years ago ------------------------------ I still have a couple cases of Tab Cards (only IBM called them some other name). True on card readers. NCR had the best of them, 2000 card a minute reader, and hardest to read was an almost blank card, as that show any slippage. We marketed it, but was made by (senior moment) the main maker of postage machines, NCR 380. Pitney-Bowes. I remember boxes of cards in our house. Hell, I made forts with them. I was a bit young, probably 6-8 when my mom ran the town school "computer"... It was in two air conditioned classrooms and had the big sorting machine with the with the cards running through. Well, that certainly explains your vast knowledge of "things computer." |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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says... On 11/30/12 12:26 PM, wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:48:19 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 11/30/12 1:03 AM, JustWait wrote: I remember boxes of cards in our house. Hell, I made forts with them. I was a bit young, probably 6-8 when my mom ran the town school "computer"... It was in two air conditioned classrooms and had the big sorting machine with the with the cards running through. Well, that certainly explains your vast knowledge of "things computer." It was the typical understanding everyone had of an EAM room. There were lots of big gray boxes but the sorter was the most interesting to look at because you could really see something happening. (in spite of that being the simplest machine in the room) This is why that is always the images you see on old movies. By a like token, if you look at a "computer room" images they always show tape drives. (again, one of the simplest boxes in the room) The first computer I ever saw "up close and personal" was in the offices of an NGO. I knew what it was, but I had no idea what its purpose was. It was behind glass walls on a raised floor, and it was surrounded by acolytes, several of whom were carrying holy clipboards. Was that before you failed to pay taxes and other debt? One would wonder why you didn't pay your fair share when you claim that you are well off because of your father's marina and the shopping center you claim to own. |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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... In article , says... On 11/30/2012 12:38 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:25:48 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:28:00 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. There toward the end they have that little girl looking up at a 370/m155 and the picture before that has a 360/m20 and a string of 2401 tape drives but they are not credited as being IBM. ----------------------- We replaced a 360/m20 at Macy's Calif in about 1966. Was a no mag file 360. All card and paper tape. We replaced it with an NCR 315 with mag tapes. Worked for NCR in those days. I could not believe that IBM could supply a 360 without tapes. (for the youngsters, was not disk drives as you know them.) The Mod 20 was always a niche machine that was dropped into unit record accounts with a software package that was intuitive for people who were used to wiring 407 boards. I never had a mod 20 account myself but I was in them occasionally. Most were card only because that was what these people understood. If they stepped up, we sold them a mod 30 or a 25. Some went straight to a 3125 and VSE after years of hanging on to cards. As an aside, the real reason states get rid of punch card voting machines is because it is hard finding a system with a card reader on it. (not Bush v Gore) IBM got out of the card reader business years ago ------------------------------ I still have a couple cases of Tab Cards (only IBM called them some other name). True on card readers. NCR had the best of them, 2000 card a minute reader, and hardest to read was an almost blank card, as that show any slippage. We marketed it, but was made by (senior moment) the main maker of postage machines, NCR 380. Pitney-Bowes. I remember boxes of cards in our house. Hell, I made forts with them. I was a bit young, probably 6-8 when my mom ran the town school "computer"... It was in two air conditioned classrooms and had the big sorting machine with the with the cards running through. Bull****. ------------------- Why do you state BS? The computers were that big. My wife reminds friends at time of her first visit with me to a mainframe computer room in about 1966. These were NCR 315's with mag tapes and CRAM units ( random magnetic card file) plus line printers. About 20,000 address, 12 bit, memory (decimal) and a line printer. Filled a huge room. The Memory Bay's were 8' long for 10k of memory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCR_CRAM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCR_315 IMAGES http://www.google.com/search?q=ncr+3...w=1280&bih=609 |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
On 11/30/2012 6:15 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 11/30/2012 12:38 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:25:48 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:28:00 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. There toward the end they have that little girl looking up at a 370/m155 and the picture before that has a 360/m20 and a string of 2401 tape drives but they are not credited as being IBM. ----------------------- We replaced a 360/m20 at Macy's Calif in about 1966. Was a no mag file 360. All card and paper tape. We replaced it with an NCR 315 with mag tapes. Worked for NCR in those days. I could not believe that IBM could supply a 360 without tapes. (for the youngsters, was not disk drives as you know them.) The Mod 20 was always a niche machine that was dropped into unit record accounts with a software package that was intuitive for people who were used to wiring 407 boards. I never had a mod 20 account myself but I was in them occasionally. Most were card only because that was what these people understood. If they stepped up, we sold them a mod 30 or a 25. Some went straight to a 3125 and VSE after years of hanging on to cards. As an aside, the real reason states get rid of punch card voting machines is because it is hard finding a system with a card reader on it. (not Bush v Gore) IBM got out of the card reader business years ago ------------------------------ I still have a couple cases of Tab Cards (only IBM called them some other name). True on card readers. NCR had the best of them, 2000 card a minute reader, and hardest to read was an almost blank card, as that show any slippage. We marketed it, but was made by (senior moment) the main maker of postage machines, NCR 380. Pitney-Bowes. I remember boxes of cards in our house. Hell, I made forts with them. I was a bit young, probably 6-8 when my mom ran the town school "computer"... It was in two air conditioned classrooms and had the big sorting machine with the with the cards running through. Bull****. ------------------- Why do you state BS? The computers were that big. My wife reminds friends at time of her first visit with me to a mainframe computer room in about 1966. These were NCR 315's with mag tapes and CRAM units ( random magnetic card file) plus line printers. About 20,000 address, 12 bit, memory (decimal) and a line printer. Filled a huge room. The Memory Bay's were 8' long for 10k of memory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCR_CRAM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCR_315 IMAGES http://www.google.com/search?q=ncr+3...w=1280&bih=609 Yup, the sorter was in a double classroom in the High School, it was the town computer. My mom used to run punch cards for hours. I remember being amazed that the rooms were air conditioned in the summer when my mom was in there doing I think the class schedules for the school system. |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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On 11/30/12 1:03 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/30/2012 12:38 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:25:48 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:28:00 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. There toward the end they have that little girl looking up at a 370/m155 and the picture before that has a 360/m20 and a string of 2401 tape drives but they are not credited as being IBM. ----------------------- We replaced a 360/m20 at Macy's Calif in about 1966. Was a no mag file 360. All card and paper tape. We replaced it with an NCR 315 with mag tapes. Worked for NCR in those days. I could not believe that IBM could supply a 360 without tapes. (for the youngsters, was not disk drives as you know them.) The Mod 20 was always a niche machine that was dropped into unit record accounts with a software package that was intuitive for people who were used to wiring 407 boards. I never had a mod 20 account myself but I was in them occasionally. Most were card only because that was what these people understood. If they stepped up, we sold them a mod 30 or a 25. Some went straight to a 3125 and VSE after years of hanging on to cards. As an aside, the real reason states get rid of punch card voting machines is because it is hard finding a system with a card reader on it. (not Bush v Gore) IBM got out of the card reader business years ago ------------------------------ I still have a couple cases of Tab Cards (only IBM called them some other name). True on card readers. NCR had the best of them, 2000 card a minute reader, and hardest to read was an almost blank card, as that show any slippage. We marketed it, but was made by (senior moment) the main maker of postage machines, NCR 380. Pitney-Bowes. I remember boxes of cards in our house. Hell, I made forts with them. I was a bit young, probably 6-8 when my mom ran the town school "computer"... It was in two air conditioned classrooms and had the big sorting machine with the with the cards running through. Well, that certainly explains your vast knowledge of "things computer." Pay your taxes! |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
On 11/30/2012 10:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
Was that before you failed to pay taxes and other debt? Don't you ever get bored of this bull****? |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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Pretty cool pics of early computers!
On 11/30/2012 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , lid says... On 11/30/2012 10:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: Was that before you failed to pay taxes and other debt? Don't you ever get bored of this bull****? Not when the current administration is trying to raise everyone's taxes. We should all pay our fair share but, Harry feels that he doesn't need to pay his fair share. Whatever moral high ground Harry thought he occupied on any issue has been lost forever and he should be kicked to the curb at every possible turn. Then I won't bother reading you. |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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says... "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 11/30/2012 12:38 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:25:48 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:28:00 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. There toward the end they have that little girl looking up at a 370/m155 and the picture before that has a 360/m20 and a string of 2401 tape drives but they are not credited as being IBM. ----------------------- We replaced a 360/m20 at Macy's Calif in about 1966. Was a no mag file 360. All card and paper tape. We replaced it with an NCR 315 with mag tapes. Worked for NCR in those days. I could not believe that IBM could supply a 360 without tapes. (for the youngsters, was not disk drives as you know them.) The Mod 20 was always a niche machine that was dropped into unit record accounts with a software package that was intuitive for people who were used to wiring 407 boards. I never had a mod 20 account myself but I was in them occasionally. Most were card only because that was what these people understood. If they stepped up, we sold them a mod 30 or a 25. Some went straight to a 3125 and VSE after years of hanging on to cards. As an aside, the real reason states get rid of punch card voting machines is because it is hard finding a system with a card reader on it. (not Bush v Gore) IBM got out of the card reader business years ago ------------------------------ I still have a couple cases of Tab Cards (only IBM called them some other name). True on card readers. NCR had the best of them, 2000 card a minute reader, and hardest to read was an almost blank card, as that show any slippage. We marketed it, but was made by (senior moment) the main maker of postage machines, NCR 380. Pitney-Bowes. I remember boxes of cards in our house. Hell, I made forts with them. I was a bit young, probably 6-8 when my mom ran the town school "computer"... It was in two air conditioned classrooms and had the big sorting machine with the with the cards running through. Bull****. ------------------- Why do you state BS? The computers were that big. My wife reminds friends at time of her first visit with me to a mainframe computer room in about 1966. These were NCR 315's with mag tapes and CRAM units ( random magnetic card file) plus line printers. About 20,000 address, 12 bit, memory (decimal) and a line printer. Filled a huge room. The Memory Bay's were 8' long for 10k of memory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCR_CRAM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCR_315 IMAGES http://www.google.com/search?q=ncr+3...w=1280&bih=609 Has nothing to do with bull****. It's SCOTTY'S bull****. He's been making up stories about his IT experience and now he's making up stories about his moms. I well remember how big computers were, but again, you totally missed the point. |
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On 11/30/2012 6:15 PM, Califbill wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 11/30/2012 12:38 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:25:48 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 10:28:00 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... http://www.sfgate.com/business/tech/...orld-s-oldest- digital-computers-52982.php ----------------------- Seems to be European centrist. Left out the early IBM's, the early UNIVAC, The early desktop Wang Computer. There toward the end they have that little girl looking up at a 370/m155 and the picture before that has a 360/m20 and a string of 2401 tape drives but they are not credited as being IBM. ----------------------- We replaced a 360/m20 at Macy's Calif in about 1966. Was a no mag file 360. All card and paper tape. We replaced it with an NCR 315 with mag tapes. Worked for NCR in those days. I could not believe that IBM could supply a 360 without tapes. (for the youngsters, was not disk drives as you know them.) The Mod 20 was always a niche machine that was dropped into unit record accounts with a software package that was intuitive for people who were used to wiring 407 boards. I never had a mod 20 account myself but I was in them occasionally. Most were card only because that was what these people understood. If they stepped up, we sold them a mod 30 or a 25. Some went straight to a 3125 and VSE after years of hanging on to cards. As an aside, the real reason states get rid of punch card voting machines is because it is hard finding a system with a card reader on it. (not Bush v Gore) IBM got out of the card reader business years ago ------------------------------ I still have a couple cases of Tab Cards (only IBM called them some other name). True on card readers. NCR had the best of them, 2000 card a minute reader, and hardest to read was an almost blank card, as that show any slippage. We marketed it, but was made by (senior moment) the main maker of postage machines, NCR 380. Pitney-Bowes. I remember boxes of cards in our house. Hell, I made forts with them. I was a bit young, probably 6-8 when my mom ran the town school "computer"... It was in two air conditioned classrooms and had the big sorting machine with the with the cards running through. Bull****. ------------------- Why do you state BS? The computers were that big. My wife reminds friends at time of her first visit with me to a mainframe computer room in about 1966. These were NCR 315's with mag tapes and CRAM units ( random magnetic card file) plus line printers. About 20,000 address, 12 bit, memory (decimal) and a line printer. Filled a huge room. The Memory Bay's were 8' long for 10k of memory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCR_CRAM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCR_315 IMAGES http://www.google.com/search?q=ncr+3...w=1280&bih=609 Yup, the sorter was in a double classroom in the High School, it was the town computer. My mom used to run punch cards for hours. I remember being amazed that the rooms were air conditioned in the summer when my mom was in there doing I think the class schedules for the school system. Like I said, just like your alleged ISP company, it's bull****. |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
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Pretty cool pics of early computers!
On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:41:29 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 11/30/2012 7:23 PM, BAR wrote: In article , lid says... On 11/30/2012 10:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: Was that before you failed to pay taxes and other debt? Don't you ever get bored of this bull****? Not when the current administration is trying to raise everyone's taxes. We should all pay our fair share but, Harry feels that he doesn't need to pay his fair share. Whatever moral high ground Harry thought he occupied on any issue has been lost forever and he should be kicked to the curb at every possible turn. Then I won't bother reading you. Do you think reading Harry's **** is a lot better? He supports higher taxes and doesn't pay his own? No wonder he likes the 'eat'n ****' name. |
Pretty cool pics of early computers!
On 11/30/2012 10:23 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , lid says... On 11/30/2012 10:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: Was that before you failed to pay taxes and other debt? Don't you ever get bored of this bull****? Not when the current administration is trying to raise everyone's taxes. We should all pay our fair share but, Harry feels that he doesn't need to pay his fair share. Whatever moral high ground Harry thought he occupied on any issue has been lost forever and he should be kicked to the curb at every possible turn. You can say that again. |
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