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Long term Stabil test
On Oct 29, 6:59*am, wrote:
On Monday, October 29, 2012 3:24:00 AM UTC-3, Eisboch wrote: A few years ago we had a great debate here in rec.boats regarding the gas additive "Stabil". * Some argued it's positive benefits in keeping gas fresh, *while some claimed it was nothing but snake oil. Well, I have become a believer. * I have a little Honda EU-2000 generator that was last used seven years ago. * I had put some Stabil in the gas tank the last time I used it. With this storm on it's way I decided we should probably have a small generator on hand but figured the little Honda would never start after 7 years of sitting. I assumed that the gas in the carb and lines would have turned to shellac over the years. * I dug it out of the barn and checked the fuel tank. *Sure enough, there was still gas in it, but it didn't smell stale. Put the choke on about halfway and pulled the starter cord rapidly about four times and the little son-of-a-gun *fired up and ran perfectly. * I was shocked, and am now convinced that Stabil *works.. This storm is gonna suck though. Just last week I was wondering during which Stabil I should use in the 60 liter built-in gas tank know my new boat... Regular Stabil or the Marine Stabil. As I read it..the marine version is meant for every fillup to counter Ethanol problems. At this point we have ethanol free gas here so the regular bright red stuff is best for winterization. That is...sitting unused for about 7 months. Don, I don't know one from the other. I just dump what ever's available in the tank. I dont' know how a 350 GM engine would know the difference if it's in a boat or in a pick up truck. |
Long term Stabil test
wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:23:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: A few years ago we had a great debate here in rec.boats regarding the gas additive "Stabil". Some argued it's positive benefits in keeping gas fresh, while some claimed it was nothing but snake oil. Well, I have become a believer. I have a little Honda EU-2000 generator that was last used seven years ago. I had put some Stabil in the gas tank the last time I used it. With this storm on it's way I decided we should probably have a small generator on hand but figured the little Honda would never start after 7 years of sitting. I assumed that the gas in the carb and lines would have turned to shellac over the years. I dug it out of the barn and checked the fuel tank. Sure enough, there was still gas in it, but it didn't smell stale. Put the choke on about halfway and pulled the starter cord rapidly about four times and the little son-of-a-gun fired up and ran perfectly. I was shocked, and am now convinced that Stabil works. This storm is gonna suck though. There is Sta-Bil and, then, there is Sta-Bil. The old Sta-Bil designed for E0 is, in today's world, crap. The new Marine Formula Sta-Bil seems, in today's E10+ world, to be good stuff. ----------------------------------------------------------- Well, I don't know what Sta-Bil I used 6 years ago, but it worked. It was red, I know that. As Wayne pointed out, the little Honda engine used in the EU-2000i generator is remarkable, but it's not immune to stale, shellacked, old gas. Whatever kind of Sta-Bil that I used worked. |
Long term Stabil test
On 10/30/2012 5:03 AM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:23:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: A few years ago we had a great debate here in rec.boats regarding the gas additive "Stabil". Some argued it's positive benefits in keeping gas fresh, while some claimed it was nothing but snake oil. Well, I have become a believer. I have a little Honda EU-2000 generator that was last used seven years ago. I had put some Stabil in the gas tank the last time I used it. With this storm on it's way I decided we should probably have a small generator on hand but figured the little Honda would never start after 7 years of sitting. I assumed that the gas in the carb and lines would have turned to shellac over the years. I dug it out of the barn and checked the fuel tank. Sure enough, there was still gas in it, but it didn't smell stale. Put the choke on about halfway and pulled the starter cord rapidly about four times and the little son-of-a-gun fired up and ran perfectly. I was shocked, and am now convinced that Stabil works. This storm is gonna suck though. There is Sta-Bil and, then, there is Sta-Bil. The old Sta-Bil designed for E0 is, in today's world, crap. The new Marine Formula Sta-Bil seems, in today's E10+ world, to be good stuff. ----------------------------------------------------------- Well, I don't know what Sta-Bil I used 6 years ago, but it worked. It was red, I know that. As Wayne pointed out, the little Honda engine used in the EU-2000i generator is remarkable, but it's not immune to stale, shellacked, old gas. Whatever kind of Sta-Bil that I used worked. Have to agree with the little Honda Generators... but you have to be rich to buy one. |
Long term Stabil test
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Long term Stabil test
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:23:56 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Wayne B" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:04:27 -0400, wrote: Honda is just another piece of foreign made ****. === Not at all. Small Honda engines are some of the world's best. Allowed to sit with stale, untreated fuel, they will gum up the carb however, just like any other engine. Don't ask me how I know. :-) --------------------------------------------------------------- Yup, my vote goes to whatever little engine Honda uses in the small inverter type generators. I originally bought the EU-2000i back when we had the house in Florida and Wilma arrived. The little Honda ran 24 hours a day for over a week, keeping the refrigerator cold, the DirectTV receiver and plasma TV running plus provided power for a couple of lights. When I needed coffee, I'd unplug the refrig temporarily, make a pot of coffee, the plug the refrig back in. It was shut off twice a day, once in the morning and once in the evening for re-fueling. When I returned to MA, we started the pool installation project. The landscapers used 4-inch thick bluestone for the pool surround and patio areas. They "borrowed" the little Honda generator and used it everyday, all summer to provide power to the cut-off saw used to cut and shape each of the 4-inch stones. There are well over a hundred of them. After that project, the Honda was put away with the Sta-Bil in it. I figured the thing was probably worn out. Not so, as I have discovered during "Sandy". Hooked it up in a similar way as during Wilma and it has been running flawlessly at the low, "Economy" RPM, powering a refrig, three lights, a DirectTV receiver and TV and ... this computer and the wireless router. The only time it kicks up momentarily to full RPM is when the compressor in the refrig kicks on. After the compressor starts, it drops back down to the "Economy" RPM. We have it sitting out in the driveway. In the house we can't hear it running at all. If it ever dies, I'll be first in line to buy another one. ========== I talked with folks who do emergency management work before I bought my Honda generator. They said that Briggs & Stratton engines typically have a lifespan of about 500 hours in generator service. Hondas are up around 2,000 hours, probaly more for the inverter models which normally do not run at full RPM. |
Long term Stabil test
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:15:57 -0400, JustWait wrote:
On 10/30/2012 5:03 AM, Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 02:23:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: A few years ago we had a great debate here in rec.boats regarding the gas additive "Stabil". Some argued it's positive benefits in keeping gas fresh, while some claimed it was nothing but snake oil. Well, I have become a believer. I have a little Honda EU-2000 generator that was last used seven years ago. I had put some Stabil in the gas tank the last time I used it. With this storm on it's way I decided we should probably have a small generator on hand but figured the little Honda would never start after 7 years of sitting. I assumed that the gas in the carb and lines would have turned to shellac over the years. I dug it out of the barn and checked the fuel tank. Sure enough, there was still gas in it, but it didn't smell stale. Put the choke on about halfway and pulled the starter cord rapidly about four times and the little son-of-a-gun fired up and ran perfectly. I was shocked, and am now convinced that Stabil works. This storm is gonna suck though. There is Sta-Bil and, then, there is Sta-Bil. The old Sta-Bil designed for E0 is, in today's world, crap. The new Marine Formula Sta-Bil seems, in today's E10+ world, to be good stuff. ----------------------------------------------------------- Well, I don't know what Sta-Bil I used 6 years ago, but it worked. It was red, I know that. As Wayne pointed out, the little Honda engine used in the EU-2000i generator is remarkable, but it's not immune to stale, shellacked, old gas. Whatever kind of Sta-Bil that I used worked. Have to agree with the little Honda Generators... but you have to be rich to buy one. ....or have a free credit card. |
Long term Stabil test
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Long term Stabil test
On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:43:39 AM UTC-3, Tim wrote:
On Oct 29, 6:59*am, wrote: On Monday, October 29, 2012 3:24:00 AM UTC-3, Eisboch wrote: A few years ago we had a great debate here in rec.boats regarding the gas additive "Stabil". * Some argued it's positive benefits in keeping gas fresh, *while some claimed it was nothing but snake oil. Well, I have become a believer. * I have a little Honda EU-2000 generator that was last used seven years ago. * I had put some Stabil in the gas tank the last time I used it. With this storm on it's way I decided we should probably have a small generator on hand but figured the little Honda would never start after 7 years of sitting. I assumed that the gas in the carb and lines would have turned to shellac over the years. * I dug it out of the barn and checked the fuel tank. *Sure enough, there was still gas in it, but it didn't smell stale. Put the choke on about halfway and pulled the starter cord rapidly about four times and the little son-of-a-gun *fired up and ran perfectly. * I was shocked, and am now convinced that Stabil *works. This storm is gonna suck though. Just last week I was wondering during which Stabil I should use in the 60 liter built-in gas tank know my new boat... Regular Stabil or the Marine Stabil. As I read it..the marine version is meant for every fillup to counter Ethanol problems. At this point we have ethanol free gas here so the regular bright red stuff is best for winterization. That is...sitting unused for about 7 months. Don, I don't know one from the other. I just dump what ever's available in the tank. I dont' know how a 350 GM engine would know the difference if it's in a boat or in a pick up truck. I was talking to my service manager and he says they'll add the StaBil as part of the $200.00 winterization procedure. I'll just make sure the tank is almost filled to avoid condensation. I'll have to remember to change the gas/water seperator filter too...just in case there is some water there. The Mercury filter is painted solid black... no sight ports that I can see. |
Long term Stabil test
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