In article , says...

On 9/22/2012 11:27 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds.

But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas

That was the paradox of our vacation in far southwest North Carolina.
If you were down in what passes for civilization (where they have
electricity) cell service was spotty and broadband was unobtanium but
if you were hiking in the mountains, miles from the nearest living
soul, you had 4G.


Sounds like either you were in line of sight of a 4G tower, or maybe
there was a "market" somewhere nearby that got a lone tower...

You don't have to be in line of sight, dumb ass.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:47:52 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article , says...

On 9/22/2012 11:27 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

4G peak speeds are much faster than 3G peak speeds.

But 4G in fringe, "barely get a signal" areas is slower than 3G in good signal areas

That was the paradox of our vacation in far southwest North Carolina.
If you were down in what passes for civilization (where they have
electricity) cell service was spotty and broadband was unobtanium but
if you were hiking in the mountains, miles from the nearest living
soul, you had 4G.


Sounds like either you were in line of sight of a 4G tower, or maybe
there was a "market" somewhere nearby that got a lone tower...

You don't have to be in line of sight, dumb ass.

Multipath effects and Rayleigh fading notwithstanding (and they
wouldn't be much help in a rural mountainous area), yes you do.

It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.

Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal.

"As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications."

"despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G.

Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped.. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind.

In article ,
says...

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.

Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal.

"As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications."

"despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G.

Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind.

Bull****. Here, moron:

"The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm
that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a
radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop
transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate,
which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath."

On 9/23/2012 11:19 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.

Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal.

"As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications."

"despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G.

Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind.

Bull****. Here, moron:

"The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm
that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a
radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop
transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate,
which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath."

If you quote a source you need to attribute, dummy.

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:19:38 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:



It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.



Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal.



"As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications.."



"despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G.



Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind.



Bull****. Here, moron:



"The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm
that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a
radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop
transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate,
which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath."

So their experiments and simulation show that the measures they took ("multi-hop transmission technology") were effective in avoiding "degraded radio link by multipath".

Thanks for proving my point!

In article ,
says...

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:19:38 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...



On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:



It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.



Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal.



"As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications."



"despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G.



Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind.



Bull****. Here, moron:



"The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm
that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a
radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop
transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate,
which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath."

So their experiments and simulation show that the measures they took ("multi-hop transmission technology") were effective in avoiding "degraded radio link by multipath".

Thanks for proving my point!

If that's what you think you are a fool.

On 9/23/2012 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:19:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.

Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal.

"As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications."

"despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G.

Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind.

Bull****. Here, moron:

"The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm
that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a
radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop
transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate,
which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath."


In the mountains, you need LOS. Walking 50 feet can be the difference
between no bars and a full house.


He is a narrow flatlander... He doesn't understand that the whole
country is not like his area..

In article , says...

On 9/23/2012 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:19:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:34:26 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

It's the multipath that will get you service without line of sight.

Multipath in the RF world is, by definition, a bad thing. It is not desirable, as it can destroy your signal.

"As seen below, the spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems, is abandoned in all 4G candidate systems and replaced by OFDMA multi-carrier transmission and other frequency-domain equalization (FDE) schemes, making it possible to transfer very high bit rates *despite extensive multi-path radio propagation (echoes)*. The peak bit rate is further improved by smart antenna arrays for multiple-input multiple-output (MIMO) communications."

"despite extensive multi-path radio propagation" They take measures to insure multipath doesn't screw up 4G.

Every time you try to post about something technical, you get bitch-slapped. You should stick to something you know, like... umm. Nevermind.

Bull****. Here, moron:

"The results of outdoor experiments and computer simulations confirm
that no serious multipath degradation occurs in a service area with a
radius of a few hundred- meters and that the application of multi-hop
transmission technology can drastically improve the frame success rate,
which effectively avoids the degraded radio link by multipath."


In the mountains, you need LOS. Walking 50 feet can be the difference
between no bars and a full house.


He is a narrow flatlander... He doesn't understand that the whole
country is not like his area..

What a moron.