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In article , says...
On 9/21/2012 8:40 PM, Meyer wrote: On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite **** him.. I deal with 250 real people every weekend, not reading some perspective... LOL! Hello slammer! Oh, it's you, the second lowest life here. |
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In article m,
says... On 9/21/2012 2:08 PM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:25:29 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... It's completely plausible that Scot is near a 3G tower but on the fringe of a 4G tower, so he gets much better data rates with 3G. I suppose you'd just make sure the display said "4G", no matter what the results? Download speedtest from google play, test your phone at 3g and at 4g and get back to me. 3G is MUCH faster! Of course, I have no 4G coverage here. :-) All things being equal, of course 4G would be faster. You seem to be thinking that it's always equal in the real world, and you should realize it's not. Do the terms "dropped packets", "corrupted packet retries", or "QoS" mean anything to you? Ever had a bad connection on a cell call, with missing chunks of speech? Ever had a dropped call? Ever been to a big event, and seen the data rate drop though the floor? Also, some 4G sites have intentionally throttled back speeds as they get the infrastructure in place. You can get different speed results depending on where you are in the cell, and from cell to cell. I'm getting tired of educating you. I'm sending you an invoice. Good luck getting paid. Most of those liberals are deadbeats. Cite? |
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On Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:40:50 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... His nearby 3G tower may not hace a 4G package and array. It uses different antennas and RF equipment. Different frequency band. Larger range. That's COVERAGE NOT SPEED. There's a glimmer of hope in those dull, lifeless eyes... Now go google the effects of coverage (signal strength) on speed, and you may start to get it. Or, just drive until you get to a spot where your signal strength is low, dropping in and out, and run that speed test a few times. |
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On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. |
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In article ,
says... On Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:40:50 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... His nearby 3G tower may not hace a 4G package and array. It uses different antennas and RF equipment. Different frequency band. Larger range. That's COVERAGE NOT SPEED. There's a glimmer of hope in those dull, lifeless eyes... Now go google the effects of coverage (signal strength) on speed, and you may start to get it. Or, just drive until you get to a spot where your signal strength is low, dropping in and out, and run that speed test a few times. Just as soon as you post the results from Speedtest for your 4G and 3G data packets, we'll talk! |
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On 9/22/2012 7:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Friday, September 21, 2012 4:21:37 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 2:08 PM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:25:29 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... It's completely plausible that Scot is near a 3G tower but on the fringe of a 4G tower, so he gets much better data rates with 3G. I suppose you'd just make sure the display said "4G", no matter what the results? Download speedtest from google play, test your phone at 3g and at 4g and get back to me. 3G is MUCH faster! Of course, I have no 4G coverage here. :-) All things being equal, of course 4G would be faster. You seem to be thinking that it's always equal in the real world, and you should realize it's not. Do the terms "dropped packets", "corrupted packet retries", or "QoS" mean anything to you? Ever had a bad connection on a cell call, with missing chunks of speech? Ever had a dropped call? Ever been to a big event, and seen the data rate drop though the floor? Also, some 4G sites have intentionally throttled back speeds as they get the infrastructure in place. You can get different speed results depending on where you are in the cell, and from cell to cell. I'm getting tired of educating you. I'm sending you an invoice. Exactly my issue with 4G... It just sucks around here, 3G is much more stable and reliable... As to my "speed test" I have a decent phone, not fancy but a workhorse by LG. And your results were? Do you realize that the signal, whether 4 or 3g comes from the same exact place? You do realize that not every 3G tower has, or will get, a 4G install? His nearby 3G tower may not hace a 4G package and array. It uses different antennas and RF equipment. Different frequency band. Larger range. That's COVERAGE NOT SPEED. You don't have a clue as to what 3 pontoon just said, do you? |
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In article m,
says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! |
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On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. |
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On 9/22/2012 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 11:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/21/2012 9:58 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/21/2012 9:30 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... He's been camping out at the Apple store the last few days, hoping to be one of the first to get the new I phone. Yeah, they FINALLY got up to 4G, where everybody else has been for two years! Not everybody. 4G is still a little spotty. Everybody, AT&T, Verizon, TMobile, Sprint all have 4G coverage. Apple didn't until now have a phone capable of 4G. I was talking about people. I thought you were too. Choose your words more carefully. Learn to comprehend. The subject in the original post was about APPLE.... You are uncomprehensable. To you. OK lets do a poll. How many of you think ILoogie makes any sense at all? |
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On 9/22/2012 9:37 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 9/22/2012 7:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Friday, September 21, 2012 4:21:37 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 2:08 PM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:25:29 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... It's completely plausible that Scot is near a 3G tower but on the fringe of a 4G tower, so he gets much better data rates with 3G. I suppose you'd just make sure the display said "4G", no matter what the results? Download speedtest from google play, test your phone at 3g and at 4g and get back to me. 3G is MUCH faster! Of course, I have no 4G coverage here. :-) All things being equal, of course 4G would be faster. You seem to be thinking that it's always equal in the real world, and you should realize it's not. Do the terms "dropped packets", "corrupted packet retries", or "QoS" mean anything to you? Ever had a bad connection on a cell call, with missing chunks of speech? Ever had a dropped call? Ever been to a big event, and seen the data rate drop though the floor? Also, some 4G sites have intentionally throttled back speeds as they get the infrastructure in place. You can get different speed results depending on where you are in the cell, and from cell to cell. I'm getting tired of educating you. I'm sending you an invoice. Exactly my issue with 4G... It just sucks around here, 3G is much more stable and reliable... As to my "speed test" I have a decent phone, not fancy but a workhorse by LG. And your results were? Do you realize that the signal, whether 4 or 3g comes from the same exact place? You do realize that not every 3G tower has, or will get, a 4G install? His nearby 3G tower may not hace a 4G package and array. It uses different antennas and RF equipment. Different frequency band. Larger range. That's COVERAGE NOT SPEED. You don't have a clue as to what 3 pontoon just said, do you? Yeah, my 3G is so so.... My 4G is slooooooooow... if you consider non-existent slow. I will say this on more time. Around here, and in the boondocks, 4G is so spotty and ****ty, when we get a 4G connect, we reboot the bug to get another signal. I don't really care if Kevin believes me or not, he has the same elitist "city dweller" attitude that everybody gets exactly the same services available as us out here in the suburban areas and that we should base our needs on what they have available... These are the same folks who would try to get me to live my life in a Chevy Volt or on Public Transportation... |
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On 9/22/2012 9:49 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 9/22/2012 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 11:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/21/2012 9:58 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/21/2012 9:30 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... He's been camping out at the Apple store the last few days, hoping to be one of the first to get the new I phone. Yeah, they FINALLY got up to 4G, where everybody else has been for two years! Not everybody. 4G is still a little spotty. Everybody, AT&T, Verizon, TMobile, Sprint all have 4G coverage. Apple didn't until now have a phone capable of 4G. I was talking about people. I thought you were too. Choose your words more carefully. Learn to comprehend. The subject in the original post was about APPLE.... You are uncomprehensable. To you. OK lets do a poll. How many of you think ILoogie makes any sense at all? Nope. |
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On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... |
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In article m,
says... On 9/22/2012 7:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Friday, September 21, 2012 4:21:37 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 2:08 PM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:25:29 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... It's completely plausible that Scot is near a 3G tower but on the fringe of a 4G tower, so he gets much better data rates with 3G. I suppose you'd just make sure the display said "4G", no matter what the results? Download speedtest from google play, test your phone at 3g and at 4g and get back to me. 3G is MUCH faster! Of course, I have no 4G coverage here. :-) All things being equal, of course 4G would be faster. You seem to be thinking that it's always equal in the real world, and you should realize it's not. Do the terms "dropped packets", "corrupted packet retries", or "QoS" mean anything to you? Ever had a bad connection on a cell call, with missing chunks of speech? Ever had a dropped call? Ever been to a big event, and seen the data rate drop though the floor? Also, some 4G sites have intentionally throttled back speeds as they get the infrastructure in place. You can get different speed results depending on where you are in the cell, and from cell to cell. I'm getting tired of educating you. I'm sending you an invoice. Exactly my issue with 4G... It just sucks around here, 3G is much more stable and reliable... As to my "speed test" I have a decent phone, not fancy but a workhorse by LG. And your results were? Do you realize that the signal, whether 4 or 3g comes from the same exact place? You do realize that not every 3G tower has, or will get, a 4G install? His nearby 3G tower may not hace a 4G package and array. It uses different antennas and RF equipment. Different frequency band. Larger range. That's COVERAGE NOT SPEED. You don't have a clue as to what 3 pontoon just said, do you? I sure do! Now post those speedtest results for both 4G and 3G and we'll talk. |
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In article , says...
On 9/22/2012 9:37 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 7:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Friday, September 21, 2012 4:21:37 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 2:08 PM, wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:25:29 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... It's completely plausible that Scot is near a 3G tower but on the fringe of a 4G tower, so he gets much better data rates with 3G. I suppose you'd just make sure the display said "4G", no matter what the results? Download speedtest from google play, test your phone at 3g and at 4g and get back to me. 3G is MUCH faster! Of course, I have no 4G coverage here. :-) All things being equal, of course 4G would be faster. You seem to be thinking that it's always equal in the real world, and you should realize it's not. Do the terms "dropped packets", "corrupted packet retries", or "QoS" mean anything to you? Ever had a bad connection on a cell call, with missing chunks of speech? Ever had a dropped call? Ever been to a big event, and seen the data rate drop though the floor? Also, some 4G sites have intentionally throttled back speeds as they get the infrastructure in place. You can get different speed results depending on where you are in the cell, and from cell to cell. I'm getting tired of educating you. I'm sending you an invoice. Exactly my issue with 4G... It just sucks around here, 3G is much more stable and reliable... As to my "speed test" I have a decent phone, not fancy but a workhorse by LG. And your results were? Do you realize that the signal, whether 4 or 3g comes from the same exact place? You do realize that not every 3G tower has, or will get, a 4G install? His nearby 3G tower may not hace a 4G package and array. It uses different antennas and RF equipment. Different frequency band. Larger range. That's COVERAGE NOT SPEED. You don't have a clue as to what 3 pontoon just said, do you? Yeah, my 3G is so so.... My 4G is slooooooooow... if you consider non-existent slow. I will say this on more time. Around here, and in the boondocks, 4G is so spotty and ****ty, when we get a 4G connect, we reboot the bug to get another signal. I don't really care if Kevin believes me or not, he has the same elitist "city dweller" attitude that everybody gets exactly the same services available as us out here in the suburban areas and that we should base our needs on what they have available... These are the same folks who would try to get me to live my life in a Chevy Volt or on Public Transportation... Post your Speedtest results then. As for the way you live your life, I could care less. Spend your days cleaning horse ****. |
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In article m,
says... On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Because it's such a non-issue, because everybody that knows anything wouldn't even question it. |
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In article , says...
On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... |
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In article , says...
On 9/22/2012 9:49 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 7:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 11:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/21/2012 9:58 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... On 9/21/2012 9:30 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article om, says... He's been camping out at the Apple store the last few days, hoping to be one of the first to get the new I phone. Yeah, they FINALLY got up to 4G, where everybody else has been for two years! Not everybody. 4G is still a little spotty. Everybody, AT&T, Verizon, TMobile, Sprint all have 4G coverage. Apple didn't until now have a phone capable of 4G. I was talking about people. I thought you were too. Choose your words more carefully. Learn to comprehend. The subject in the original post was about APPLE.... You are uncomprehensable. To you. OK lets do a poll. How many of you think ILoogie makes any sense at all? Nope. Well, we all know you are too stupid to follow a thread, but thanks for clarifying. |
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On 9/22/2012 10:01 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... YES |
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On 9/22/2012 10:10 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Because it's such a non-issue, because everybody that knows anything wouldn't even question it. Humor us with your interpretation of the simple proof. |
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On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. |
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says... On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. Cite? |
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On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why there are so many on a tower if they only need one:) LOL! Maybe he thinks the tower is the Antenna??? |
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On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why there are so many on a tower if they only need one:) LOL! Maybe he thinks the tower is the Antenna??? SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. |
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On 9/23/2012 7:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why there are so many on a tower if they only need one:) LOL! Maybe he thinks the tower is the Antenna??? SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. What technical discipline are you schooled in? |
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On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. In this case, that means everything, idiot. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below. USA Carrier 3G 4G AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz) Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned) 3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas. |
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says... On 9/23/2012 7:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why there are so many on a tower if they only need one:) LOL! Maybe he thinks the tower is the Antenna??? SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. What technical discipline are you schooled in? SHOW ME, period. You can't. |
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On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:35:38 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. In this case, that means everything, idiot. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below. USA Carrier 3G 4G AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz) Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned) 3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas. Nope. Same antenna. Prove me wrong. From your own link: "Advanced antenna systems Main articles: MIMO and MU-MIMO The performance of radio communications depends on an antenna system, termed smart or intelligent antenna. Recently, multiple antenna technologies are emerging to achieve the goal of 4G systems such as high rate, high reliability, and long range communications. In the early 1990s, to cater for the growing data rate needs of data communication, many transmission schemes were proposed. One technology, spatial multiplexing, gained importance for its bandwidth conservation and power efficiency. Spatial multiplexing involves deploying multiple antennas at the transmitter and at the receiver. Independent streams can then be transmitted simultaneously from all the antennas. This technology, called MIMO (as a branch of intelligent antenna), multiplies the base data rate by (the smaller of) the number of transmit antennas or the number of receive antennas. Apart from this, the reliability in transmitting high speed data in the fading channel can be improved by using more antennas at the transmitter or at the receiver. This is called transmit or receive diversity. Both transmit/receive diversity and transmit spatial multiplexing are categorized into the space-time coding techniques, which does not necessarily require the channel knowledge at the transmitter. The other category is closed-loop multiple antenna technologies, which require channel knowledge at the transmitter." I know this stuff is over your head, but they basically designed new, advanced antenna technology to enable the transmission of 4G signals. "Recently, multiple antenna technologies are emerging to achieve the goal of 4G systems such as high rate, high reliability, and long range communications." Yeah, they use the same antennas that have been in place for years. ~snerk~ |
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On 9/23/2012 10:01 AM, wrote: On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. In this case, that means everything, idiot. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below. USA Carrier 3G 4G AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz) Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned) 3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas. ... and he wonders why I don't bother answering his insane questions:) Each and every time he gets slapped, he just moves on to the next question. It's a progressive thing, like the issue over Romney's taxes:) SHOW ME. I'll bet you can't show me where they use two different antennas. That **** above is just stupid. IF that were true, you'd need a different antenna every time you tuned your car radio to a different frequency. |
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On 9/23/2012 10:36 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m, says... On 9/23/2012 7:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 1:28 PM, wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:40 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/22/2012 9:45 AM, Meyer wrote: On 9/22/2012 9:38 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/22/2012 7:43 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article m, says... On 9/21/2012 3:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/21/2012 1:32 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:10:28 -0400, JustWait wrote: It's exactly the engineer in him that makes him so narrow minded and thus, unable to decipher abstract ideas. === Frankly, I doubt very much that he's an engineer, at least not a graduate EE. If and when you do get a decent 4G connection, you'll like it a lot. We were on Long Island Sound with the trawler in the summer of 2011. 4G was just beginning to roll out in many places and service was very spotty in some areas, even close to NYC. This year I've been getting pretty good 4G service just about everywhere but there are probably still a few problems. I am somewhat of a special case too... Everywhere I want to get any service, is usually a place where nobody is:) Motocross tracks for racing seem to be out in the boondocks, almost across the board just because we need to avoid the "green monsters" and try to do our thing without otherwise inconveniencing others... This being the case, from what I have seen so far, Verison is the service most racers I know use. I have a VM cell, which is great but never get any service, and we have the sprint mobile connector for internet, which is the one I was addressing earlier. At Unidilla, it was useless... It comes from the same damned place! Same tower! cite Do you REALLY think that they build seperate towers for 4G? Really??? If so you are dumber than Scotty!! Doesn't matter what I think. You can't prove your statement is true. "It comes from the same damned place! Same tower!" Maybe bull**** maybe not. Show some proof, idiot. The proof is simple, idiot. I really didn't think you were so stupid as to think that 4G comes from different cell towers than 3G!!! The proof might be simple but you can't show it. Nobody said they don't come from the same tower. We said they have different antenna or array, or whatever you call it and that some towers don't have the 4G gear yet. He is too stupid to parse the difference and too much of an asshole to admit if he could... Please show where they have "different antenna or array" for 4G than they do for 3G.... If you had even an ounce of technical ability and understanding, you'd realize that 4G *requires* a different antenna array. When it comes to understanding technical stuff, you're like a dog watching TV. I don't think he understands why antennae are different sizes... Or why there are so many on a tower if they only need one:) LOL! Maybe he thinks the tower is the Antenna??? SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. What technical discipline are you schooled in? SHOW ME, period. You can't. There's our answer. |
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says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:35:38 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. In this case, that means everything, idiot. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below. USA Carrier 3G 4G AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz) Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned) 3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas. Nope. Same antenna. Prove me wrong. From your own link: "Advanced antenna systems Main articles: MIMO and MU-MIMO The performance of radio communications depends on an antenna system, termed smart or intelligent antenna. Recently, multiple antenna technologies are emerging to achieve the goal of 4G systems such as high rate, high reliability, and long range communications. In the early 1990s, to cater for the growing data rate needs of data communication, many transmission schemes were proposed. One technology, spatial multiplexing, gained importance for its bandwidth conservation and power efficiency. Spatial multiplexing involves deploying multiple antennas at the transmitter and at the receiver. Independent streams can then be transmitted simultaneously from all the antennas. This technology, called MIMO (as a branch of intelligent antenna), multiplies the base data rate by (the smaller of) the number of transmit antennas or the number of receive antennas. Apart from this, the reliability in transmitting high speed data in the fading channel can be improved by using more antennas at the transmitter or at the receiver. This is called transmit or receive diversity. Both transmit/receive diversity and transmit spatial multiplexing are categorized into the space-time coding techniques, which does not necessarily require the channel knowledge at the transmitter. The other category is closed-loop multiple antenna technologies, which require channel knowledge at the transmitter." I know this stuff is over your head, but they basically designed new, advanced antenna technology to enable the transmission of 4G signals. "Recently, multiple antenna technologies are emerging to achieve the goal of 4G systems such as high rate, high reliability, and long range communications." Yeah, they use the same antennas that have been in place for years. ~snerk~ If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car. |
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On 9/23/2012 11:17 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 9/23/2012 10:01 AM, wrote: On Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:51:44 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: SHOW ME then asshat. SHOW ME a technical article that states that 4G uses different antenna than 3G. Antenna are different lengths because of the wave length of radio signals. In this case, that means nothing. In this case, that means everything, idiot. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies Look halfway down the page at the tacle titled :Carrier Frequency Use" and you'll see the data below. USA Carrier 3G 4G AT&T 850 / 1,900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1,700/2,100 MHz) Verizon 850 / 1,900 700 / AWS(Planned) 3G and 4G do indeed use different frequencies. And that, as you stated, requires different antennas. ... and he wonders why I don't bother answering his insane questions:) Each and every time he gets slapped, he just moves on to the next question. It's a progressive thing, like the issue over Romney's taxes:) SHOW ME. I'll bet you can't show me where they use two different antennas. That **** above is just stupid. IF that were true, you'd need a different antenna every time you tuned your car radio to a different frequency. You are unbelievably dense. |
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On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car. You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot. |
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In article , says...
On 9/23/2012 11:55 AM, wrote: On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car. Holy ****! LOL! You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot. Uh, dumb ass, it was YOU that said you needed antennas of "different lengths"...... |
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On 9/23/2012 2:16 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car. You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot. That is what YOU said! Believe it! |
figgered out where harry is
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:17:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 9/23/2012 11:55 AM, wrote: On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:21:09 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: If you need a different antenna for any given frequency, you'd have to change antenna every time you changed the radio station in your car. Holy ****! LOL! You just proved yourself to be a clueless idiot. Uh, dumb ass, it was YOU that said you needed antennas of "different lengths"...... I have seen electricallly extended car antennae. Usually wired to extend fully when you turn on the radio and retract when you turn it off, but it would be easy to wire it for adjustabiliity. Casady |
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