*e#c wrote:
On Aug 11, 7:45 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:03:01 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

More Krause Krapp.
Flagged as Spam.......
Nice try, but your flagging doesn't do anything in Usenet.

In article , earl11875
@hotmail.com says...

*e#c wrote:
On Aug 11, 7:45 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:03:01 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

More Krause Krapp.
Flagged as Spam.......
Nice try, but your flagging doesn't do anything in Usenet.

I wonder if he really thinks it does? Is he that stupid?

On 8/12/2012 5:17 AM, jps wrote:
I also afford charity to those less fortunate, something that Paul
Ryan doesn't think is necessary.

Picking up your day labor in front of Home Depot is not charity.

"jps" wrote in message
...


Perhaps Mitt instisted on Ryan despite the consequences. That
wouldn't be surprising given his willingness to take any position
necessary to please the present audience. It's not like they didn't
know Ryan would be kryptonite for the elderly in Florida.

------------------------------------------------------

I'd save this comment for future reference jps.

Assuming any of Ryan's plans regarding Medicare, Medicaid or Social
Security were ever enacted, none of the elderly in Florida (or
anywhere else for that matter) would be affected at all.

The "elderly" ... and I include myself as a "young" elderly ... can
understand that programs like Medicare and even Social Security have
to be modified from time to time ... as they have been ... in order to
adjust for changing times. Medicare as a program is what, 47 years
old ... yet has been modified many times.

On 8/14/12 3:32 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"jps" wrote in message ...


Perhaps Mitt instisted on Ryan despite the consequences. That
wouldn't be surprising given his willingness to take any position
necessary to please the present audience. It's not like they didn't
know Ryan would be kryptonite for the elderly in Florida.

------------------------------------------------------

I'd save this comment for future reference jps.

Assuming any of Ryan's plans regarding Medicare, Medicaid or Social
Security were ever enacted, none of the elderly in Florida (or anywhere
else for that matter) would be affected at all.

The "elderly" ... and I include myself as a "young" elderly ... can
understand that programs like Medicare and even Social Security have to
be modified from time to time ... as they have been ... in order to
adjust for changing times. Medicare as a program is what, 47 years
old ... yet has been modified many times.



We actually have no way to tell what might happen to Medicare, Medicaid
or Social Security or when if the ultra conservatives like Ryan are put
in charge.



--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/14/12 3:32 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...


Perhaps Mitt instisted on Ryan despite the consequences. That
wouldn't be surprising given his willingness to take any position
necessary to please the present audience. It's not like they didn't
know Ryan would be kryptonite for the elderly in Florida.

------------------------------------------------------

I'd save this comment for future reference jps.

Assuming any of Ryan's plans regarding Medicare, Medicaid or Social
Security were ever enacted, none of the elderly in Florida (or
anywhere
else for that matter) would be affected at all.

The "elderly" ... and I include myself as a "young" elderly ... can
understand that programs like Medicare and even Social Security have
to
be modified from time to time ... as they have been ... in order to
adjust for changing times. Medicare as a program is what, 47
years
old ... yet has been modified many times.



We actually have no way to tell what might happen to Medicare,
Medicaid
or Social Security or when if the ultra conservatives like Ryan are
put
in charge.
--------------------------------------------

Maybe. But we certainly know what will happen to them if nothing is
done.

On 8/14/12 3:47 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/14/12 3:32 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...


Perhaps Mitt instisted on Ryan despite the consequences. That
wouldn't be surprising given his willingness to take any position
necessary to please the present audience. It's not like they didn't
know Ryan would be kryptonite for the elderly in Florida.

------------------------------------------------------

I'd save this comment for future reference jps.

Assuming any of Ryan's plans regarding Medicare, Medicaid or Social
Security were ever enacted, none of the elderly in Florida (or anywhere
else for that matter) would be affected at all.

The "elderly" ... and I include myself as a "young" elderly ... can
understand that programs like Medicare and even Social Security have to
be modified from time to time ... as they have been ... in order to
adjust for changing times. Medicare as a program is what, 47 years
old ... yet has been modified many times.



We actually have no way to tell what might happen to Medicare, Medicaid
or Social Security or when if the ultra conservatives like Ryan are put
in charge.
--------------------------------------------

Maybe. But we certainly know what will happen to them if nothing is done.




No one rational is denying that we need a better, more efficient way to
deliver health services to all of those who need them. The Republican
way seems to be to first **** over those who need the health services
and cut back even more on what remains of our social safety net *and*
hand over even bigger tax cuts to the wealthy. Part of Ryan's budget
plans, for example, would lower the tax rate of people like Romney to
nearly zero.

Sorry, there's no reason to trust or even consider plans from extremists
like Ryan.

BTW, is it true that in 14 years in congress, he's gotten two bills
passed and one was to rename a post office?

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/14/12 3:47 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/14/12 3:32 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...


Perhaps Mitt instisted on Ryan despite the consequences. That
wouldn't be surprising given his willingness to take any position
necessary to please the present audience. It's not like they
didn't
know Ryan would be kryptonite for the elderly in Florida.

------------------------------------------------------

I'd save this comment for future reference jps.

Assuming any of Ryan's plans regarding Medicare, Medicaid or Social
Security were ever enacted, none of the elderly in Florida (or
anywhere
else for that matter) would be affected at all.

The "elderly" ... and I include myself as a "young" elderly ... can
understand that programs like Medicare and even Social Security
have to
be modified from time to time ... as they have been ... in order to
adjust for changing times. Medicare as a program is what, 47
years
old ... yet has been modified many times.



We actually have no way to tell what might happen to Medicare,
Medicaid
or Social Security or when if the ultra conservatives like Ryan are
put
in charge.
--------------------------------------------

Maybe. But we certainly know what will happen to them if nothing is
done.




No one rational is denying that we need a better, more efficient way
to
deliver health services to all of those who need them. The Republican
way seems to be to first **** over those who need the health services
and cut back even more on what remains of our social safety net *and*
hand over even bigger tax cuts to the wealthy. Part of Ryan's budget
plans, for example, would lower the tax rate of people like Romney to
nearly zero.

Sorry, there's no reason to trust or even consider plans from
extremists
like Ryan.

BTW, is it true that in 14 years in congress, he's gotten two bills
passed and one was to rename a post office?

-------------------------------------------

Beats me. But I looked something up. Thousands upon thousands of
bills are written every year. Right now there are approximately
11,533 bills and/or resolutions before Congress. Only a handful ...
meaning a dozen or so .... will eventually become law.

Which raises another question.

Why do we need so many damn bills and/or new laws?

As for Ryan ... I am not promoting him or advocating for anything he
has proposed. I just happened to read some of the details of his
plan and, if you take away all the absolutes, prejudices and purely
biased politics, there are parts of it that make sense. However,
once you apply the manic, party line prejudices to it ... like death
squads and "throwing the elderly out on the street" type BS, there's
really no reason to discuss the subject any further.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:32:53 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"jps" wrote in message
.. .


Perhaps Mitt instisted on Ryan despite the consequences. That
wouldn't be surprising given his willingness to take any position
necessary to please the present audience. It's not like they didn't
know Ryan would be kryptonite for the elderly in Florida.

------------------------------------------------------

I'd save this comment for future reference jps.

Assuming any of Ryan's plans regarding Medicare, Medicaid or Social
Security were ever enacted, none of the elderly in Florida (or
anywhere else for that matter) would be affected at all.

The "elderly" ... and I include myself as a "young" elderly ... can
understand that programs like Medicare and even Social Security have
to be modified from time to time ... as they have been ... in order to
adjust for changing times. Medicare as a program is what, 47 years
old ... yet has been modified many times.

But no modification would leave people out in the cold as much as
Ryan's would. Vouchers would undoubtedly come up short and with
medical care costing what it does, many seniors would be forced into
bankruptcy while Ryan give "job creators" even bigger tax breaks.

Everyone understands the Republican's love of wealth and most
understand trickle down hasn't and won't work. Supply side economics
is bull****.

Both Romney and Ryan come from privileged upbringings, as is amply
evident in their both having 7.1 channel surround sound tin ears.

If the Dems have a clue, they'll position them as tools of the rich,
with little understanding or regard for people who didn't hit the
sperm/egg jackpot.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:15:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
om...

On 8/14/12 3:47 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/14/12 3:32 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...


Perhaps Mitt instisted on Ryan despite the consequences. That
wouldn't be surprising given his willingness to take any position
necessary to please the present audience. It's not like they
didn't
know Ryan would be kryptonite for the elderly in Florida.

------------------------------------------------------

I'd save this comment for future reference jps.

Assuming any of Ryan's plans regarding Medicare, Medicaid or Social
Security were ever enacted, none of the elderly in Florida (or
anywhere
else for that matter) would be affected at all.

The "elderly" ... and I include myself as a "young" elderly ... can
understand that programs like Medicare and even Social Security
have to
be modified from time to time ... as they have been ... in order to
adjust for changing times. Medicare as a program is what, 47
years
old ... yet has been modified many times.



We actually have no way to tell what might happen to Medicare,
Medicaid
or Social Security or when if the ultra conservatives like Ryan are
put
in charge.
--------------------------------------------

Maybe. But we certainly know what will happen to them if nothing is
done.




No one rational is denying that we need a better, more efficient way
to
deliver health services to all of those who need them. The Republican
way seems to be to first **** over those who need the health services
and cut back even more on what remains of our social safety net *and*
hand over even bigger tax cuts to the wealthy. Part of Ryan's budget
plans, for example, would lower the tax rate of people like Romney to
nearly zero.

Sorry, there's no reason to trust or even consider plans from
extremists
like Ryan.

BTW, is it true that in 14 years in congress, he's gotten two bills
passed and one was to rename a post office?

-------------------------------------------

Beats me. But I looked something up. Thousands upon thousands of
bills are written every year. Right now there are approximately
11,533 bills and/or resolutions before Congress. Only a handful ...
meaning a dozen or so .... will eventually become law.

Which raises another question.

Why do we need so many damn bills and/or new laws?

As for Ryan ... I am not promoting him or advocating for anything he
has proposed. I just happened to read some of the details of his
plan and, if you take away all the absolutes, prejudices and purely
biased politics, there are parts of it that make sense. However,
once you apply the manic, party line prejudices to it ... like death
squads and "throwing the elderly out on the street" type BS, there's
really no reason to discuss the subject any further.


He's co-authored two bills. One to name a PO after Les Aspin and the
other to control tax on arrows, as in bow and arrow.

He's a rich boy from a wealthy family who never knew a challenge.
Looks like he's been sitting with his thumb up his ass since he got to
congress. That is until he came up with his cockeyed budget ideas.