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Gould 0738 October 10th 03 03:57 PM

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Here's one tough woman.

Lucky for her she was in subtropical waters. Survival time in the Pac NW would
have been maybe 15- 30 minutes before her body cooled off so much the major
organs began shutting down.

PALACIOS, Texas (Oct. 10) - Cold, frightened and desperate after 13 hours in
the choppy Gulf of Mexico, Melinda Lopez refused to give up.

After falling overboard Tuesday from the shrimp boat where she worked, Lopez
swam and floated until she reached safety at an oil platform, spray-painted a
distress signal and managed to activate an alarm system to summon help.


"I just had to stay strong. I didn't want to go like that," the 32-year-old
Lopez said in a story in Friday editions of The Victoria Advocate. "I didn't
want to be eaten by fishes. I was really scared."

Lopez's ordeal began 70 miles off Galveston in the Gulf of Mexico, where Lopez
was climbing around the 76-foot shrimper Ike and Zack to find a spot to read.
She slipped and fell in the water without a life jacket.

Neither the boat's three-man crew nor those of other boats that floated past
heard her cries.

"The water was rough," she said in the online edition of the Houston Chronicle,
adding that she was bumped by large fish. "The waves were coming over my head."

Lopez said she swam all night, following a distant sound and finally reaching a
foghorn on the offshore rig about daybreak Wednesday. There, she found a moldy
loaf of bread, other food and water - and some black and white paint.

She painted an SOS on the platform, made a balloon out of a black trash bag and
spray painted it with another plea for help. She was also able to trigger an
alarm system on the platform, which activated sirens and lights.

Coast Guard Chief Warrant Officer Adam Wine said a jet pilot spotted the SOS on
the oil platform Wednesday evening.

Rescued by a helicopter crew, she was "cold, shaking, dehydrated and in a
slight state of shock, but stable" when she was transferred to Galveston's
University of Texas Medical Branch, Wine said.

Lopez' mother cried and prayed as rescuers searched for her daughter.

"As long as she's my daughter, she'll never go to sea again," vowed Janie
Lopez, of Palacios.

"I don't want to even get in the water," her daughter said.



Doug Kanter October 10th 03 04:25 PM

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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Here's one tough woman.


Hopefully, she's tough enough to find and kill the crew that left her out
there.



Bob D. October 10th 03 04:52 PM

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Hopefully? I'd say it a given she could...


In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Here's one tough woman.


Hopefully, she's tough enough to find and kill the crew that left her out
there.


Rick October 10th 03 05:15 PM

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Doug Kanter wrote:

Hopefully, she's tough enough to find and kill the crew that left her out
there.


Hopefully she has the moral strength to avoid jumping to absurd conclusions.

The Coast Guard received a relayed message from the shrimper two hours
after she was last seen on the boat. Commercial crews work hard and
don't go around doing bed checks on each other. When someone is "off"
the crew tend to leave them alone and not wake them up every few minutes
to see if they are still alive and onboard.

Not being onboard I certainly can't say what happened but it sure sounds
like she was "off" for the duration of a drag and she was left alone to
find some peace and quiet. When the drag was finished the crew called
her out and discovered she was missing. They then called for help.

If you think they deserve to be murdered for that then please stay ashore.

Rick


Doug Kanter October 10th 03 05:47 PM

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Sounds like a pretty sloppy arrangement to me, but hey...I'm nuts about
details.

"Rick" wrote in message
nk.net...
Doug Kanter wrote:

Hopefully, she's tough enough to find and kill the crew that left her

out
there.


Hopefully she has the moral strength to avoid jumping to absurd

conclusions.

The Coast Guard received a relayed message from the shrimper two hours
after she was last seen on the boat. Commercial crews work hard and
don't go around doing bed checks on each other. When someone is "off"
the crew tend to leave them alone and not wake them up every few minutes
to see if they are still alive and onboard.

Not being onboard I certainly can't say what happened but it sure sounds
like she was "off" for the duration of a drag and she was left alone to
find some peace and quiet. When the drag was finished the crew called
her out and discovered she was missing. They then called for help.

If you think they deserve to be murdered for that then please stay ashore.

Rick




Rick October 10th 03 06:12 PM

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Doug Kanter wrote:

Sounds like a pretty sloppy arrangement to me, but hey...I'm nuts about
details.


I suppose to a lubber it does sound "sloppy" but peace and quiet and
privacy are rare and precious moments on board working vessels and
crewmembers give each other considerable respect in that area.

Part of working at sea is the understanding that you have to assume a
great deal of personal responsibility for your own safety. A commercial
fishing vessel is not a yacht and there are no crewmembers assigned as
baby sitters.

One of the greatest joys of going to sea is the time, day or night, when
you can find a bit of deck away from the noise of the ship and the eyes
of your shipmates and simply be alone with the sea. Those of us who sail
for a living have an acute sense of the absolute fact that one false
step or misplaced handhold may be fatal. We know that it might be eight
hours before anyone knows we are missing and the ship may have traveled
150 miles in that time. That is not "sloppy" that is life at sea.


Rick




Doug Kanter October 10th 03 06:15 PM

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Lubber? Are you sure?

"Rick" wrote in message
ink.net...
Doug Kanter wrote:

Sounds like a pretty sloppy arrangement to me, but hey...I'm nuts about
details.


I suppose to a lubber it does sound "sloppy" but peace and quiet and
privacy are rare and precious moments on board working vessels and
crewmembers give each other considerable respect in that area.

Part of working at sea is the understanding that you have to assume a
great deal of personal responsibility for your own safety. A commercial
fishing vessel is not a yacht and there are no crewmembers assigned as
baby sitters.

One of the greatest joys of going to sea is the time, day or night, when
you can find a bit of deck away from the noise of the ship and the eyes
of your shipmates and simply be alone with the sea. Those of us who sail
for a living have an acute sense of the absolute fact that one false
step or misplaced handhold may be fatal. We know that it might be eight
hours before anyone knows we are missing and the ship may have traveled
150 miles in that time. That is not "sloppy" that is life at sea.


Rick






Rick October 10th 03 06:50 PM

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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Hopefully, she's tough enough to find and kill the crew
that left her out there."


Lubber? Are you sure?


Yeah. You convinced me.

Rick


Doug Kanter October 10th 03 07:05 PM

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You must be very young, or you have somehow passed through many years and
developed little or no ability to come to conclusions which fit what you
have observed.

"Rick" wrote in message
ink.net...
Doug Kanter wrote:

"Hopefully, she's tough enough to find and kill the crew
that left her out there."


Lubber? Are you sure?


Yeah. You convinced me.

Rick




Steve October 10th 03 07:13 PM

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I agree with Rick on this matter. Although my shipboard watch/off watch
experiences were onboard surface navy ships. There still were ~ 8 hour
periods where a crew members absense could go unnoticed.

However, a surface navy ship has lookouts on watch 24 hours a day. One or
more of these lookouts is assigned to watch from the stern or some other
elevated location that overlooks the stern wake of the ship. Of course,
there are an abundance of available watch standers on a navy ship. On a
commercial vessel these watch standers may not be.

Another thought. Over the past few years the USCG has been requiring more
and more safety equipment to be made available to commercial fishermen. Most
noteably in the N. Pac fish industry, the cold water survival suits. I'm
wondering how much longer it will be before they require man-over-board
beacons for crew and locator systems onboard. The technology is there!!

Just my thoughts, FWIW.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Rick October 10th 03 07:36 PM

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Doug Kanter wrote:

You must be very young, or you have somehow passed through many years and
developed little or no ability to come to conclusions which fit what you
have observed.


"She slipped and fell in the water without a life jacket."


"The water was rough," she said ..."The waves were coming over my head."


"Neither the boat's three-man crew nor those of other boats that
floated past heard her cries."


Rough water, small head, no one aware of or looking for a MOB. So, which
vessel's crew should be executed first?

I stand by my description of your attitude as uninformed, inexperienced,
and lubberly.

Rick


Doug Kanter October 10th 03 07:38 PM

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"Rick" wrote in message
ink.net...
Doug Kanter wrote:

You must be very young, or you have somehow passed through many years

and
developed little or no ability to come to conclusions which fit what you
have observed.


"She slipped and fell in the water without a life jacket."


"The water was rough," she said ..."The waves were coming over my

head."

"Neither the boat's three-man crew nor those of other boats that
floated past heard her cries."


Rough water, small head, no one aware of or looking for a MOB. So, which
vessel's crew should be executed first?

I stand by my description of your attitude as uninformed, inexperienced,
and lubberly.

Rick


The captain first. The other two can draw straws.



UglyDan®©™ October 10th 03 07:54 PM

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She's a lucky lady, But IMO she was more than likely just along for the
ride, Since she fell over at night and no one noticed, Shrimpboats only
work at night in the Gulf, and ALL hands turn 2 culling the catch
between tows, No breaks, no reading, just work! At sunrise they haul the
nets, throw the hook, and lay to for the day, Then you take your break.
Don't ask me how I know, I just do, UD


Doug Kanter October 10th 03 08:15 PM

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"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...
She's a lucky lady, But IMO she was more than likely just along for the
ride, Since she fell over at night and no one noticed, Shrimpboats only
work at night in the Gulf, and ALL hands turn 2 culling the catch
between tows, No breaks, no reading, just work! At sunrise they haul the
nets, throw the hook, and lay to for the day, Then you take your break.
Don't ask me how I know, I just do, UD


I know. A family member spent 5 yrs working on a shrimper in the Gulf.

Meanwhile, the captain should've been able to keep track of 3-4 people. I
don't buy the excuses.



Tammy Bush October 11th 03 02:08 AM

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On 10 Oct 2003 14:57:08 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

, Lopez
swam and floated until she reached safety at an oil platform, spray-painted a
distress signal and managed to activate an alarm system to summon help.


Damn graffiti vandal, and a minority to boot!

TAm


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Calif Bill October 11th 03 05:15 AM

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...
She's a lucky lady, But IMO she was more than likely just along for the
ride, Since she fell over at night and no one noticed, Shrimpboats only
work at night in the Gulf, and ALL hands turn 2 culling the catch
between tows, No breaks, no reading, just work! At sunrise they haul the
nets, throw the hook, and lay to for the day, Then you take your break.
Don't ask me how I know, I just do, UD


I know. A family member spent 5 yrs working on a shrimper in the Gulf.

Meanwhile, the captain should've been able to keep track of 3-4 people. I
don't buy the excuses.



Oh. Bull. Aquaintance was on a 3 day out SD and guy and his son are aboard.
Guy is 450-500# fat. And drunk. Everybody is sleeping and at 2 AM son says
he can not find his dad. Not hard to seach a 75' boat for a really fat
drunk. They contact CG and retrace their route and do not find the guy. At
sunrise some sailboat finds the guy floating along, and somewhat sober.
Good shape, except for hangover. They rig a hoist off the mast to lift the
pile of blubber into the boat. Fat does float and insulate. He tried
peeing off the transom on a boat with a couple of heads. Maybe he did not
fit. You want to shoot the captain of this boat also? **** happens and not
always looking at all the crew 24/7.



Keith October 11th 03 01:47 PM

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Never worked on a boat, eh?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Sounds like a pretty sloppy arrangement to me, but hey...I'm nuts about
details.

"Rick" wrote in message
nk.net...
Doug Kanter wrote:

Hopefully, she's tough enough to find and kill the crew that left her

out
there.


Hopefully she has the moral strength to avoid jumping to absurd

conclusions.

The Coast Guard received a relayed message from the shrimper two hours
after she was last seen on the boat. Commercial crews work hard and
don't go around doing bed checks on each other. When someone is "off"
the crew tend to leave them alone and not wake them up every few minutes
to see if they are still alive and onboard.

Not being onboard I certainly can't say what happened but it sure sounds
like she was "off" for the duration of a drag and she was left alone to
find some peace and quiet. When the drag was finished the crew called
her out and discovered she was missing. They then called for help.

If you think they deserve to be murdered for that then please stay

ashore.

Rick






Backyard Renegade October 11th 03 03:45 PM

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"UglyDan®©T" wrote in message
...
She's a lucky lady, But IMO she was more than likely just along for the
ride, Since she fell over at night and no one noticed, Shrimpboats only
work at night in the Gulf, and ALL hands turn 2 culling the catch
between tows, No breaks, no reading, just work! At sunrise they haul the
nets, throw the hook, and lay to for the day, Then you take your break.
Don't ask me how I know, I just do, UD


I know. A family member spent 5 yrs working on a shrimper in the Gulf.

Meanwhile, the captain should've been able to keep track of 3-4 people. I
don't buy the excuses.


Excuses for what? Not having eyes 360 degrees? Not watching one person
while he works? Not doing what no one else does during these
processes? Please, and make sure to detail this, tell us exactly what
went wrong and why you blame anyone but the lady hanging out on deck
without proper equipment? Geeze, sometimes when you are wrong it is
time to admit it or just leave it alone.
Scotty, who was not there, so will not pass judgement.

Doug Kanter October 13th 03 03:02 PM

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Captain: Vest on, or in the cabin. Period.



Wayne.B October 14th 03 04:17 AM

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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:02:00 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Captain: Vest on, or in the cabin. Period.


================================

Doug, what world do you boat in ? Any adults on board ?


Doug Kanter October 14th 03 03:28 PM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:02:00 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Captain: Vest on, or in the cabin. Period.


================================

Doug, what world do you boat in ? Any adults on board ?


Uh...yeah. When I say "vests on", the vests go on, or we return to the dock
and some people leave. There has never EVER been a problem. The adults
who've been through the drill return for more fishing again and again.

Maybe my friends respect my judgement.



Wayne.B October 15th 03 05:03 AM

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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:28:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Uh...yeah. When I say "vests on", the vests go on, or we return to the dock
and some people leave. There has never EVER been a problem. The adults
who've been through the drill return for more fishing again and again.

Maybe my friends respect my judgement.


===================================

That's fine as long as we are only talking about bad weather
conditions.



Doug Kanter October 15th 03 02:40 PM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:28:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Uh...yeah. When I say "vests on", the vests go on, or we return to the

dock
and some people leave. There has never EVER been a problem. The adults
who've been through the drill return for more fishing again and again.

Maybe my friends respect my judgement.


===================================

That's fine as long as we are only talking about bad weather
conditions.



Not always. Sometimes, the bay we're fishing gets crowded with wannabe
pistol targets - the drunks who don't understand what their wakes do to
anchored boats. You get a dozen of those monkeys buzzing around within 200
feet of you, and it can raise hell with a stationary boat.




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