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picnic boat for the 99%
I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako,
Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? |
picnic boat for the 99%
On May 11, 12:26*pm, paulaner wrote:
I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. *That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. *What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? *I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Not until you list a name on these posts, no. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On May 11, 12:26*pm, paulaner wrote:
I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. *That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. *What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? *I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? INVALID profile, by the way..... Spoofing dicklicker. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote:
I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. |
picnic boat for the 99%
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On 5/11/12 10:05 PM, Earl wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. Uh, a less than 20' center console boat does not "make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks)." Especially so on Chesapeake Bay, which typically in summer months has a hard chop rolling across its surface almost everywhere you go. And especially so in a small center console boat, which isn't really the platform for those who want lots of cushions, throw pillows, cocktails and snacks. For a modicum of comfort, I'd suggest at least a 21' cabin boat with at least 20-21 degrees of deadrise at the stern, and a 150 to 200 hp four stroke Yamaha or Suzuki outboard. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, Earl wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. The smaller ones, like mine, use a much more subdued porta-potty. Something along these lines, that floats - just in case... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...HL._AA300_.jpg Of course, that's only for emergency use. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On 5/12/2012 7:38 AM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. The smaller ones, like mine, use a much more subdued porta-potty. Something along these lines, that floats - just in case... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...HL._AA300_.jpg Of course, that's only for emergency use. Harry endorses this model. http://www.trendhunter.com/trends/gotta-go-briefcase |
picnic boat for the 99%
On May 12, 8:05*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 5/11/12 10:05 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. Uh, a less than 20' center console boat does not "make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks)." Especially so on Chesapeake Bay, which typically in summer months has a hard chop rolling across its surface almost everywhere you go. And especially so in a small center console boat, which isn't really the platform for those who want lots of cushions, throw pillows, cocktails and snacks. For a modicum of comfort, I'd suggest at least a 21' cabin boat with at least 20-21 degrees of deadrise at the stern, and a 150 to 200 hp four stroke Yamaha or Suzuki outboard. The minimum my wife will settle for is a windshield to break the wind, comfy deluxe seats and a 'stand up sunbrella type top to protect from the sun... or when the wind is chily. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Sat, 12 May 2012 07:05:35 -0400, X ` Man
wrote: On 5/11/12 10:05 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. Uh, a less than 20' center console boat does not "make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks)." Especially so on Chesapeake Bay, which typically in summer months has a hard chop rolling across its surface almost everywhere you go. And especially so in a small center console boat, which isn't really the platform for those who want lots of cushions, throw pillows, cocktails and snacks. For a modicum of comfort, I'd suggest at least a 21' cabin boat with at least 20-21 degrees of deadrise at the stern, and a 150 to 200 hp four stroke Yamaha or Suzuki outboard. I'll stick to the river for the non-sailors. I agree that a 21+ may be a better size when I'm out in thwe bay. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On 5/12/12 1:17 PM, paulaner wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2012 07:05:35 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/11/12 10:05 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. Uh, a less than 20' center console boat does not "make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks)." Especially so on Chesapeake Bay, which typically in summer months has a hard chop rolling across its surface almost everywhere you go. And especially so in a small center console boat, which isn't really the platform for those who want lots of cushions, throw pillows, cocktails and snacks. For a modicum of comfort, I'd suggest at least a 21' cabin boat with at least 20-21 degrees of deadrise at the stern, and a 150 to 200 hp four stroke Yamaha or Suzuki outboard. I'll stick to the river for the non-sailors. I agree that a 21+ may be a better size when I'm out in thwe bay. You might like what is called a "deck boat." There are plenty in the 20' range. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, Earl wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! |
picnic boat for the 99%
X ` Man wrote:
On 5/11/12 10:05 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. Uh, a less than 20' center console boat does not "make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks)." Especially so on Chesapeake Bay, which typically in summer months has a hard chop rolling across its surface almost everywhere you go. And especially so in a small center console boat, which isn't really the platform for those who want lots of cushions, throw pillows, cocktails and snacks. For a modicum of comfort, I'd suggest at least a 21' cabin boat with at least 20-21 degrees of deadrise at the stern, and a 150 to 200 hp four stroke Yamaha or Suzuki outboard. Uh, I did refer to their larger boats. I did say they were a good choice only because I am familiar with their build quality. |
picnic boat for the 99%
X ` Man wrote:
On 5/12/12 1:17 PM, paulaner wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2012 07:05:35 -0400, X ` wrote: On 5/11/12 10:05 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. Uh, a less than 20' center console boat does not "make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks)." Especially so on Chesapeake Bay, which typically in summer months has a hard chop rolling across its surface almost everywhere you go. And especially so in a small center console boat, which isn't really the platform for those who want lots of cushions, throw pillows, cocktails and snacks. For a modicum of comfort, I'd suggest at least a 21' cabin boat with at least 20-21 degrees of deadrise at the stern, and a 150 to 200 hp four stroke Yamaha or Suzuki outboard. I'll stick to the river for the non-sailors. I agree that a 21+ may be a better size when I'm out in thwe bay. You might like what is called a "deck boat." There are plenty in the 20' range. Deck boats that do have a 20+ degree deadrise at the transom (if there are any) are unsuitable for the hard rolling chop you describe. He may as well find a 70's tri-hull. |
picnic boat for the 99%
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On 5/12/12 9:01 PM, Earl wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. Uh, I didn't say it was "rough," dumfoch. I said and have posted many times that the Bay typically has a hard chop, usually 6" to a foot or foot and a half. Sometimes the bay is "rough," sometimes it is flat, but much of the time it has a hard chop. |
picnic boat for the 99%
X ` Man wrote:
On 5/12/12 9:01 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. Uh, I didn't say it was "rough," dumfoch. I said and have posted many times that the Bay typically has a hard chop, usually 6" to a foot or foot and a half. Sometimes the bay is "rough," sometimes it is flat, but much of the time it has a hard chop. "Rough" is subjective and my use was proper. Yes, you said a hard chop and you also recommended a large amount of deadrise, 20 degrees or more, to counter those conditions in your post where you said boats under 20' were not comfortable. Oddly, you suggested that a 150-200hp motor was required and even limited it to two brands. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On May 12, 10:12*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 5/12/12 9:01 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. Uh, I didn't say it was "rough," dumfoch. I said and have posted many times that the Bay typically has a hard chop, usually 6" to a foot or foot and a half. Sometimes the bay is "rough," sometimes it is flat, but much of the time it has a hard chop. Here's a site that talks a bit about deadrise... http://www.tropicalboating.com/power...ull-angle.html |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Sat, 12 May 2012 21:01:27 -0400, Earl wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. It has rough days and calm days and in-between days. It is not, as has been suggested, continuously in turmoil. Besides which, there are plenty of very nice, scenic, and calm rivers dumping into the Chesapeake, many with little islands and/or boaters beaches which provide great areas for simple relaxing. Being in the middle of the bay with a 25mph breeze and 3' chop would be no fun for a family outing in anything less than about a 34'er. Some folks are naysayers, no matter what. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On 5/12/12 9:48 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote: On 5/12/12 9:01 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. Uh, I didn't say it was "rough," dumfoch. I said and have posted many times that the Bay typically has a hard chop, usually 6" to a foot or foot and a half. Sometimes the bay is "rough," sometimes it is flat, but much of the time it has a hard chop. "Rough" is subjective and my use was proper. Yes, you said a hard chop and you also recommended a large amount of deadrise, 20 degrees or more, to counter those conditions in your post where you said boats under 20' were not comfortable. Oddly, you suggested that a 150-200hp motor was required and even limited it to two brands. Your posts are just more evidence as to why this is no longer a boating group. Bye. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Sat, 12 May 2012 21:48:29 -0400, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote: On 5/12/12 9:01 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. Uh, I didn't say it was "rough," dumfoch. I said and have posted many times that the Bay typically has a hard chop, usually 6" to a foot or foot and a half. Sometimes the bay is "rough," sometimes it is flat, but much of the time it has a hard chop. "Rough" is subjective and my use was proper. Yes, you said a hard chop and you also recommended a large amount of deadrise, 20 degrees or more, to counter those conditions in your post where you said boats under 20' were not comfortable. Oddly, you suggested that a 150-200hp motor was required and even limited it to two brands. We all have our own definitions of 'hard chop'. To me, 6" - 12" wavelets are pretty calm. One- to two-footers can be a little 'choppy', but are fine at a slower speed. Don't know why 150-200 horses is necessary. A good friend had a 24'er with a Honda 90 on the butt end, and we did a whole lot of pleasant fishing with that thing - in 2'-3' wave conditions. Pulled lots of stripers into that boat. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On 5/13/12 7:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2012 21:48:29 -0400, wrote: We all have our own definitions of 'hard chop'. To me, 6" - 12" wavelets are pretty calm. One- to two-footers can be a little 'choppy', but are fine at a slower speed. Don't know why 150-200 horses is necessary. A good friend had a 24'er with a Honda 90 on the butt end, and we did a whole lot of pleasant fishing with that thing - in 2'-3' wave conditions. Pulled lots of stripers into that boat. Around here, hard chop refers less to the size of the peaks of waves and more to the distances between the peaks. If the peaks are close together, you get hard chop. If they are farther apart, you typically don't, wave size being equal. As for engine horsepower, you have what, an 18-footer with a 150 hp four stroke engine? Oh, and you don't actually get out on the Bay more than once a year, do you? |
picnic boat for the 99%
On 5/13/2012 7:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2012 21:01:27 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. It has rough days and calm days and in-between days. It is not, as has been suggested, continuously in turmoil. Besides which, there are plenty of very nice, scenic, and calm rivers dumping into the Chesapeake, many with little islands and/or boaters beaches which provide great areas for simple relaxing. Being in the middle of the bay with a 25mph breeze and 3' chop would be no fun for a family outing in anything less than about a 34'er. Some folks are naysayers, no matter what. I'll bet your boat can handle " 6" hard chop " without any difficulty. ;-) |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Sat, 12 May 2012 05:36:04 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote: The minimum my wife will settle for is a windshield to break the wind, comfy deluxe seats and a 'stand up sunbrella type top to protect from the sun... or when the wind is chily. === Based on what I think I know about your area and what you'd like to do, I think you'll be happiest with something like a cuddy cabin runabout in the 24 ft range, with full canvas and a V-bottom. You will need to keep it in the water however or get a bigger tow vehicle. If you keep it in the water, docked or moored, your best choice is outboard powered. I/Os tend to develop corrosion issues if stored full time in salt water. Do you have dry stack rack storage in your area? If so, that is another option and quite possibly less expensive than buying a new truck. |
picnic boat for the 99%
X ` Man wrote:
On 5/12/12 9:48 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 5/12/12 9:01 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. Uh, I didn't say it was "rough," dumfoch. I said and have posted many times that the Bay typically has a hard chop, usually 6" to a foot or foot and a half. Sometimes the bay is "rough," sometimes it is flat, but much of the time it has a hard chop. "Rough" is subjective and my use was proper. Yes, you said a hard chop and you also recommended a large amount of deadrise, 20 degrees or more, to counter those conditions in your post where you said boats under 20' were not comfortable. Oddly, you suggested that a 150-200hp motor was required and even limited it to two brands. Your posts are just more evidence as to why this is no longer a boating group. Bye. You can't defend your own post so you come up with that BS? Don't let the door hit you in the ass. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Sat, 12 May 2012 19:25:47 -0700 (PDT), somebody wrote:
If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. === It's rough enough, an open body of water 100+ miles long and 10 to 20 miles wide, roughly comparable in size to Long Island Sound. In my opinion 24 feet is about the minimum size for a halfway comfortable ride in most conditions. The great thing about boating on the Chesapeake is the vast number of bays and rivers that are more protected. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On 5/14/12 7:58 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote: On 5/12/12 9:48 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 5/12/12 9:01 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. Uh, I didn't say it was "rough," dumfoch. I said and have posted many times that the Bay typically has a hard chop, usually 6" to a foot or foot and a half. Sometimes the bay is "rough," sometimes it is flat, but much of the time it has a hard chop. "Rough" is subjective and my use was proper. Yes, you said a hard chop and you also recommended a large amount of deadrise, 20 degrees or more, to counter those conditions in your post where you said boats under 20' were not comfortable. Oddly, you suggested that a 150-200hp motor was required and even limited it to two brands. Your posts are just more evidence as to why this is no longer a boating group. Bye. You can't defend your own post so you come up with that BS? Don't let the door hit you in the ass. D'oh. I didn't write that I was leaving. I was simply closing the door on you and your moronic posts. That door is almost completely closed now. Bye. |
picnic boat for the 99%
X ` Man wrote:
On 5/13/12 7:36 AM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2012 21:48:29 -0400, wrote: We all have our own definitions of 'hard chop'. To me, 6" - 12" wavelets are pretty calm. One- to two-footers can be a little 'choppy', but are fine at a slower speed. Don't know why 150-200 horses is necessary. A good friend had a 24'er with a Honda 90 on the butt end, and we did a whole lot of pleasant fishing with that thing - in 2'-3' wave conditions. Pulled lots of stripers into that boat. Around here, hard chop refers less to the size of the peaks of waves and more to the distances between the peaks. If the peaks are close together, you get hard chop. If they are farther apart, you typically don't, wave size being equal. As for engine horsepower, you have what, an 18-footer with a 150 hp four stroke engine? Oh, and you don't actually get out on the Bay more than once a year, do you? Spoken like a true non-boater. You have issues, X-Man. Jealousy, envy, whatever, but it is apparent that you don't boat and have chosen this to be your dumping ground for your over-the-top political agenda. You seem to forget that people who have boats are more likely to be educated and can see through your strange rhetoric. Even your attempts at on-topic posts are filled with unfounded advice. There are plenty of political groups in Usenet, I'm sure. Have you been pushed out of them all? |
picnic boat for the 99%
On May 14, 8:55*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2012 05:36:04 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The minimum my wife will settle for is a windshield to break the wind, comfy deluxe seats and a 'stand up sunbrella type top to protect from the sun... or when the wind is chily. === Based on what I think I know about your area and what you'd like to do, I think you'll be happiest with something like a cuddy cabin runabout in the 24 ft range, with full canvas and a V-bottom. * You will need to keep it in the water however or get a bigger tow vehicle. If you keep it in the water, docked or moored, your best choice is outboard powered. * I/Os tend to develop corrosion issues if stored full time in salt water. *Do you have dry stack rack storage in your area? *If so, that is another option and quite possibly less expensive than buying a new truck. No boat stacking around here. All the local yacht clubs have a big launch around the Victoria Day holiday this month and take the boats out around our Thanksgiving in October. |
picnic boat for the 99%
X ` Man wrote:
On 5/14/12 7:58 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 5/12/12 9:48 PM, Earl wrote: X ` Man wrote: On 5/12/12 9:01 PM, Earl wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 22:05:09 -0400, wrote: John H. wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:26:45 -0400, paulaner wrote: I'm planning to buy a boat soon, and I have been looking at Mako, Edgewater, etc center console boats. That should work well for my periodic need for fishing, crabbing, bar run, etc. What is doesn't do is make a comfortable afternoon or sunset cruise for the wife, mothers, and other non-boaters in the family (they want cushions, throw pillows, cocktails, snacks). So, what is the 20' (or so) equivalent boat that could meet those needs? I don't want a pontoon boat, and I can't afford the Hinkley. My pier slip could hold 24' or maybe a bit more I think, pilings are about 10' wide. The boat would be used on the Chesapeake bay, and mostly on the local river. I'd love a quiet 4-stroke outboard, and maybe something a little classic looking. Thoughts? Here, I love mine! And my wife and kids do also. http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/6 Notice all the seating and cushions. Scroll through the images. When the back seats are removed, you have four more rod holders. Good choice! The larger KW boats have a porta-pottie in the console, too. My wife and I started with a little 15' Boston Whaler which we used in the Chesapeake Bay and the Potomac River. Sometimes it got a little bumpy, but we always had a great time. We now go mostly in the Potomac River and Lake Anna, but have taken it to the Chesapeake several times also. Great riding boat - and lots of cushions!! If that's the case, the Chesapeake isn't as rough as X-Man would have us believe. Uh, I didn't say it was "rough," dumfoch. I said and have posted many times that the Bay typically has a hard chop, usually 6" to a foot or foot and a half. Sometimes the bay is "rough," sometimes it is flat, but much of the time it has a hard chop. "Rough" is subjective and my use was proper. Yes, you said a hard chop and you also recommended a large amount of deadrise, 20 degrees or more, to counter those conditions in your post where you said boats under 20' were not comfortable. Oddly, you suggested that a 150-200hp motor was required and even limited it to two brands. Your posts are just more evidence as to why this is no longer a boating group. Bye. You can't defend your own post so you come up with that BS? Don't let the door hit you in the ass. D'oh. I didn't write that I was leaving. I was simply closing the door on you and your moronic posts. That door is almost completely closed now. Bye. Put me in your kill-file. I could care less. You are the one starved for attention. |
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picnic boat for the 99%
On Mon, 14 May 2012 20:12:42 -0400, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote: On 5/13/12 7:36 AM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2012 21:48:29 -0400, wrote: We all have our own definitions of 'hard chop'. To me, 6" - 12" wavelets are pretty calm. One- to two-footers can be a little 'choppy', but are fine at a slower speed. Don't know why 150-200 horses is necessary. A good friend had a 24'er with a Honda 90 on the butt end, and we did a whole lot of pleasant fishing with that thing - in 2'-3' wave conditions. Pulled lots of stripers into that boat. Around here, hard chop refers less to the size of the peaks of waves and more to the distances between the peaks. If the peaks are close together, you get hard chop. If they are farther apart, you typically don't, wave size being equal. As for engine horsepower, you have what, an 18-footer with a 150 hp four stroke engine? Oh, and you don't actually get out on the Bay more than once a year, do you? Spoken like a true non-boater. You have issues, X-Man. Jealousy, envy, whatever, but it is apparent that you don't boat and have chosen this to be your dumping ground for your over-the-top political agenda. You seem to forget that people who have boats are more likely to be educated and can see through your strange rhetoric. Even your attempts at on-topic posts are filled with unfounded advice. There are plenty of political groups in Usenet, I'm sure. Have you been pushed out of them all? I'm still of the opinion that 6" crests six feet apart are no worse than 6" crests one foot apart. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On May 21, 8:11*pm, John H. wrote:
....the big horse flies come out then. Don't they make good fish bait? |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Mon, 21 May 2012 21:17:54 -0400, John H.
wrote: I'm still of the opinion that 6" crests six feet apart are no worse than 6" crests one foot apart. === That's because 6 inches is small relative to the size of your boat. Change the proportions to something like 4 feet 40 feet apart vs 4 feet 400 feet apart. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Mon, 21 May 2012 19:40:38 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On May 21, 8:11*pm, John H. wrote: ...the big horse flies come out then. Don't they make good fish bait? Well, I suppose if you could get the chunk of your flesh out of their big, friggin' mouths and put it on a hook you'd probably win a catfish contest. But other than that -- NO. |
picnic boat for the 99%
On Mon, 21 May 2012 23:22:30 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 21 May 2012 21:17:54 -0400, John H. wrote: I'm still of the opinion that 6" crests six feet apart are no worse than 6" crests one foot apart. === That's because 6 inches is small relative to the size of your boat. Change the proportions to something like 4 feet 40 feet apart vs 4 feet 400 feet apart. True - but the original comment had to do with 6" to 12" wavelets. The Chesapeake, as I'm sure you know, isn't quite big enough to get 4'ers 400' apart. When we get 4'ers there's a whole lot of wind coming from somewhere, and I wouldn't have been out there with my 21'er. I've done it - but that's 'cause I got caught in a quick thunderstorm. Then the waves were higher than I could see over when I was in a trough. Didn't have a GPS then, and was lucky the compass was working. |
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