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About tax rates and Universal Health care
Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care
for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
In article ,
says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) First, there are VAT taxes all over the U.S. also. Here in PA for example, to renew your car tag, you pay "ad valorim" tax every year on the value of your car. As for the article, the numbers given are clearly stated as "median". |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
On 13/04/2012 1:18 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html Because it is also about being efficient, effective and economical. Not just Congress regulating it so only their stocks can win. -- Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing. |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
In article ,
says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:10:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) First, there are VAT taxes all over the U.S. also. Here in PA for example, to renew your car tag, you pay "ad valorim" tax every year on the value of your car. As for the article, the numbers given are clearly stated as "median". You really need to find out what a VAT tax is. It has nothing to do with personal property taxes. It is a tax based on the markup every time someone manufactures or handles a product from the mine where the ore comes from to the product you end up buying, a new tax, every step along the way. Governments like it because it is a hidden tax buried in the price, so they can still add a sales tax when you buy it and a property tax as long as you own it if they like. I'm fully aware what a VAT tax is and I never said anything about personal property tax. Neither does Ad Valorem. |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
In article ,
says... On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:56:47 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:10:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) First, there are VAT taxes all over the U.S. also. Here in PA for example, to renew your car tag, you pay "ad valorim" tax every year on the value of your car. As for the article, the numbers given are clearly stated as "median". You really need to find out what a VAT tax is. It has nothing to do with personal property taxes. It is a tax based on the markup every time someone manufactures or handles a product from the mine where the ore comes from to the product you end up buying, a new tax, every step along the way. Governments like it because it is a hidden tax buried in the price, so they can still add a sales tax when you buy it and a property tax as long as you own it if they like. I'm fully aware what a VAT tax is and I never said anything about personal property tax. Neither does Ad Valorem. Ad Valorem (in latin it means "according to value") taxes are personal property taxes. In this case the property is your car but other states extend that to any asset they can find to tax. Most have taxes on real estate. It is still not a VAT tax. They both are consumption based taxes, period. |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
On 4/16/2012 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:10:45 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) First, there are VAT taxes all over the U.S. also. Here in PA for example, to renew your car tag, you pay "ad valorim" tax every year on the value of your car. As for the article, the numbers given are clearly stated as "median". You really need to find out what a VAT tax is. It has nothing to do with personal property taxes. .... and even more, nothing to do with income taxes which is what the Democrat class warfare is all about... |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
On 4/17/2012 9:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:56:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:10:45 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) First, there are VAT taxes all over the U.S. also. Here in PA for example, to renew your car tag, you pay "ad valorim" tax every year on the value of your car. As for the article, the numbers given are clearly stated as "median". You really need to find out what a VAT tax is. It has nothing to do with personal property taxes. It is a tax based on the markup every time someone manufactures or handles a product from the mine where the ore comes from to the product you end up buying, a new tax, every step along the way. Governments like it because it is a hidden tax buried in the price, so they can still add a sales tax when you buy it and a property tax as long as you own it if they like. I'm fully aware what a VAT tax is and I never said anything about personal property tax. Neither does Ad Valorem. Ad Valorem (in latin it means "according to value") taxes are personal property taxes. In this case the property is your car but other states extend that to any asset they can find to tax. Most have taxes on real estate. It is still not a VAT tax. They both are consumption based taxes, period. neither are income taxes, period... |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
On 4/17/12 9:36 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/16/2012 1:45 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:10:45 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) First, there are VAT taxes all over the U.S. also. Here in PA for example, to renew your car tag, you pay "ad valorim" tax every year on the value of your car. As for the article, the numbers given are clearly stated as "median". You really need to find out what a VAT tax is. It has nothing to do with personal property taxes. ... and even more, nothing to do with income taxes which is what the Democrat class warfare is all about... Even if your comment about class warfare were true, which it is not, what difference would it make to a non-earning, non-taxpayer like you? |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
In article , says...
On 4/16/2012 1:45 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:10:45 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) First, there are VAT taxes all over the U.S. also. Here in PA for example, to renew your car tag, you pay "ad valorim" tax every year on the value of your car. As for the article, the numbers given are clearly stated as "median". You really need to find out what a VAT tax is. It has nothing to do with personal property taxes. ... and even more, nothing to do with income taxes which is what the Democrat class warfare is all about... Cite? |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
In article , says...
On 4/17/2012 9:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:56:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:10:45 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) First, there are VAT taxes all over the U.S. also. Here in PA for example, to renew your car tag, you pay "ad valorim" tax every year on the value of your car. As for the article, the numbers given are clearly stated as "median". You really need to find out what a VAT tax is. It has nothing to do with personal property taxes. It is a tax based on the markup every time someone manufactures or handles a product from the mine where the ore comes from to the product you end up buying, a new tax, every step along the way. Governments like it because it is a hidden tax buried in the price, so they can still add a sales tax when you buy it and a property tax as long as you own it if they like. I'm fully aware what a VAT tax is and I never said anything about personal property tax. Neither does Ad Valorem. Ad Valorem (in latin it means "according to value") taxes are personal property taxes. In this case the property is your car but other states extend that to any asset they can find to tax. Most have taxes on real estate. It is still not a VAT tax. They both are consumption based taxes, period. neither are income taxes, period... You aren't making any sense... again.. |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
In article ,
says... On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:23:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: You really need to find out what a VAT tax is. It has nothing to do with personal property taxes. It is a tax based on the markup every time someone manufactures or handles a product from the mine where the ore comes from to the product you end up buying, a new tax, every step along the way. Governments like it because it is a hidden tax buried in the price, so they can still add a sales tax when you buy it and a property tax as long as you own it if they like. I'm fully aware what a VAT tax is and I never said anything about personal property tax. Neither does Ad Valorem. Ad Valorem (in latin it means "according to value") taxes are personal property taxes. In this case the property is your car but other states extend that to any asset they can find to tax. Most have taxes on real estate. It is still not a VAT tax. They both are consumption based taxes, period. VAT is a consumption tax. Ad Valorem taxes are not. They come after you every year for ad valorem taxes for things you already own and you didn't consume anything. Nothing new was created except the bureaucracy your taxes support Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_valorem_tax |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
On Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:47:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) Besides, I couldn't find a country on that map that had both "free" health care and a lower tax rate that I'd consider living in. |
About tax rates and Universal Health care
On 17/04/2012 7:37 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/17/2012 9:23 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:56:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:10:45 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:18:03 -0400, wrote: Interesting that some of the countries that have universal health care for all have a lower tax rate than the U.S. http://images.turbotax.intuit.com/iq...lib/fun/world- taxes/turbotaxworld.html You are ignoring the 15-17% VAT tax they pay on everything they buy (sometimes cascaded throughout every step of production), a $5 a gallon gas tax and other taxes. It should also be noted the vast majority of Americans pay nothing near that 35% top rate A couple, no kids, no mortgage, making $100,000 a year, taking the standard deduction and 2 exemptions with $800 MWP credit pays about 12% of their gross in income taxes (get a 1040 and try it) First, there are VAT taxes all over the U.S. also. Here in PA for example, to renew your car tag, you pay "ad valorim" tax every year on the value of your car. As for the article, the numbers given are clearly stated as "median". You really need to find out what a VAT tax is. It has nothing to do with personal property taxes. It is a tax based on the markup every time someone manufactures or handles a product from the mine where the ore comes from to the product you end up buying, a new tax, every step along the way. Governments like it because it is a hidden tax buried in the price, so they can still add a sales tax when you buy it and a property tax as long as you own it if they like. I'm fully aware what a VAT tax is and I never said anything about personal property tax. Neither does Ad Valorem. Ad Valorem (in latin it means "according to value") taxes are personal property taxes. In this case the property is your car but other states extend that to any asset they can find to tax. Most have taxes on real estate. It is still not a VAT tax. They both are consumption based taxes, period. neither are income taxes, period... To the seller they are a fixed income tax. To the buyer they are consumption taxes. -- Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing. |
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