In article , says...

On 3/29/2012 9:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 3/29/2012 8:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 3/28/2012 4:25 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/28/12 4:13 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/28/2012 4:11 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:50:15 -0400, wrote:



http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1222259.ece

It's nice to see that an investigation is being conducted. Maybe the
investigation will show enough
evidence to press charges. Then maybe there will be an arrest and
trial. Then Zimmerman will either
be convicted and punished or found not guilty.

Then all you amateur sleuths can argue about how biased the judge,
jury, prosecutor, defender, and
etc. were.

That's what Kevin would have done were he still around. Oh, and Harry
too.

Well, Harry is a liar, Plum plays the Red Herring game... subtle
difference, both are just as dishonest as each other..


Wow...it's the rec.boats version of The Lost Boys...Herring the Racist
and **** for Brains Snotty.

You and Plum should be happy. As hard as the rest tried, you two got it
right back to politics all the time, just the way you want it. Have fun
with that...

And you were the first to interject racism into a thread.

The whole event is about racism. Jackson, Enfume, Sharpton, you and
Harry are only interested because of the racist overtones...

You are a liar. Show me ONE THING I said about race. Then show me ONE
THING Harry said about race. Two lies in one sentence from you. Now what
I can do is show you where YOU interjected racism into the discussion.

Listen Plum, I am not interested in playing on your web... You are a
dishonest person, not worth bothering with.

What was *I* dishonest about? Come on, you called me a racist, so show
me one thing I said that was racist...... Now YOU on the other hand are,
you were the one who interjected race into the conversation.

In article , says...

On 3/29/2012 9:41 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 3/29/2012 9:34 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/29/2012 9:28 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 3/29/2012 8:28 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 3/28/2012 4:11 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:50:15 -0400, wrote:



http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1222259.ece

It's nice to see that an investigation is being conducted. Maybe the
investigation will show enough
evidence to press charges. Then maybe there will be an arrest and
trial. Then Zimmerman will either
be convicted and punished or found not guilty.

Then all you amateur sleuths can argue about how biased the judge,
jury, prosecutor, defender, and
etc. were.

That's what Kevin would have done were he still around. Oh, and
Harry too.

Well, Harry is a liar, Plum plays the Red Herring game... subtle
difference, both are just as dishonest as each other..

Gee, not much to say about the link I posted, eh?

I don't think anyone opens your links.


John's link? I have opened his musical links before and I just don't
share his taste in music at all, ever, not one bit so I didn't bother...

I was referring to Plume's links.


Well, Plum's links are irrelevant, even he doesn't know what they mean...

Irrelevant???? The Special Prosecutor commenting on the lack of
professionalism and investigation of the very case we are discussing is
"irrelevant" in your eyes? What then would be relevant in the case?

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:28:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:50:15 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1222259.ece

It's nice to see that an investigation is being conducted. Maybe the investigation will show enough
evidence to press charges. Then maybe there will be an arrest and trial. Then Zimmerman will either
be convicted and punished or found not guilty.

Then all you amateur sleuths can argue about how biased the judge, jury, prosecutor, defender, and
etc. were.

That's what Kevin would have done were he still around. Oh, and Harry too.

Asshole, then you and the other amateur defenders of Zimmerman will be
put in place. That's what John Herring would do.

Can you show me where I've 'defended' anyone?

Another lie, Harry?

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:28:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:50:15 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1222259.ece

It's nice to see that an investigation is being conducted. Maybe the investigation will show enough
evidence to press charges. Then maybe there will be an arrest and trial. Then Zimmerman will either
be convicted and punished or found not guilty.

Then all you amateur sleuths can argue about how biased the judge, jury, prosecutor, defender, and
etc. were.

That's what Kevin would have done were he still around. Oh, and Harry too.

Asshole, then you and the other amateur defenders of Zimmerman will be
put in place. That's what John Herring would do.

Can you show me where I've 'defended' anyone?

Another lie, Harry?

ESAD, Asshole.

On 3/29/2012 2:11 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:28:12 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:50:15 -0400, wrote:



http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1222259.ece

It's nice to see that an investigation is being conducted. Maybe the investigation will show enough
evidence to press charges. Then maybe there will be an arrest and trial. Then Zimmerman will either
be convicted and punished or found not guilty.

Then all you amateur sleuths can argue about how biased the judge, jury, prosecutor, defender, and
etc. were.

That's what Kevin would have done were he still around. Oh, and Harry too.

Asshole, then you and the other amateur defenders of Zimmerman will be
put in place. That's what John Herring would do.

Can you show me where I've 'defended' anyone?

Another lie, Harry?

ESAD, Asshole.

That's exactly what Harry says when he's backed into a corner.
I'll tell ya. You have so many quirky traits that either Harry or Plume
exhibit. I can't figger out which one of them you are.

--
http://tinyurl.com/75bq9db

X ` Man wrote:
On 3/29/12 8:59 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/29/2012 8:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 3/28/2012 4:25 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/28/12 4:13 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/28/2012 4:11 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:50:15 -0400, wrote:



http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1222259.ece

It's nice to see that an investigation is being conducted. Maybe
the
investigation will show enough
evidence to press charges. Then maybe there will be an arrest and
trial. Then Zimmerman will either
be convicted and punished or found not guilty.

Then all you amateur sleuths can argue about how biased the judge,
jury, prosecutor, defender, and
etc. were.

That's what Kevin would have done were he still around. Oh, and
Harry
too.

Well, Harry is a liar, Plum plays the Red Herring game... subtle
difference, both are just as dishonest as each other..


Wow...it's the rec.boats version of The Lost Boys...Herring the
Racist
and **** for Brains Snotty.

You and Plum should be happy. As hard as the rest tried, you two
got it
right back to politics all the time, just the way you want it. Have
fun
with that...

And you were the first to interject racism into a thread.

The whole event is about racism. Jackson, Enfume, Sharpton, you and
Harry are only interested because of the racist overtones...



Wrong, ****-for-brains. My interest in the case in based upon
Florida's nutcase "stand your ground" law. It's an ugly law that leads
to over the top violence.
Can you give an example? I can:

Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men —
killing one — during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in
Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could
gun them down and not be charged.

John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday when,
Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway
shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to
Lovell. They wanted his money, police said.

But like his attackers, Lovell was armed.

The retired military man opened fire, shooting dead Donicio Arrindell,
22, of North Lauderdale, and critically injuring Fredrick Gadson, 21, of
Fort Lauderdale.

Lovell, 71, of Plantation, has a valid concealed weapons permit and is
not expected to be charged in the shooting, said police spokesman
Detective Robert Rettig. Gadson, however, faces multiple felony charges
that could include murder, he said. Under Florida law, anyone who
commits a felony such as armed robbery resulting in a death can be held
accountable for the capital offense.

"He feared for his life," Rettig said of Lovell. "And if he's in fear
for his life, then he has a right to defend himself, even if it means
severe bodily injury or death."

Florida law gives people the right of "self-defense without the duty to
retreat." That means individuals can use deadly force virtually anywhere
to prevent death or serious injury.

Lovell could not be reached for comment despite calls and visits to his
home.

On 3/29/2012 8:02 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:
On 3/29/12 8:59 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/29/2012 8:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 3/28/2012 4:25 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/28/12 4:13 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/28/2012 4:11 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:50:15 -0400, wrote:



http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1222259.ece

It's nice to see that an investigation is being conducted. Maybe
the
investigation will show enough
evidence to press charges. Then maybe there will be an arrest and
trial. Then Zimmerman will either
be convicted and punished or found not guilty.

Then all you amateur sleuths can argue about how biased the judge,
jury, prosecutor, defender, and
etc. were.

That's what Kevin would have done were he still around. Oh, and
Harry
too.

Well, Harry is a liar, Plum plays the Red Herring game... subtle
difference, both are just as dishonest as each other..


Wow...it's the rec.boats version of The Lost Boys...Herring the
Racist
and **** for Brains Snotty.

You and Plum should be happy. As hard as the rest tried, you two
got it
right back to politics all the time, just the way you want it. Have
fun
with that...

And you were the first to interject racism into a thread.

The whole event is about racism. Jackson, Enfume, Sharpton, you and
Harry are only interested because of the racist overtones...



Wrong, ****-for-brains. My interest in the case in based upon
Florida's nutcase "stand your ground" law. It's an ugly law that leads
to over the top violence.
Can you give an example? I can:

Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men —
killing one — during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in
Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could
gun them down and not be charged.

John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday when,
Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway
shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to
Lovell. They wanted his money, police said.

But like his attackers, Lovell was armed.

The retired military man opened fire, shooting dead Donicio Arrindell,
22, of North Lauderdale, and critically injuring Fredrick Gadson, 21, of
Fort Lauderdale.

Lovell, 71, of Plantation, has a valid concealed weapons permit and is
not expected to be charged in the shooting, said police spokesman
Detective Robert Rettig. Gadson, however, faces multiple felony charges
that could include murder, he said. Under Florida law, anyone who
commits a felony such as armed robbery resulting in a death can be held
accountable for the capital offense.

"He feared for his life," Rettig said of Lovell. "And if he's in fear
for his life, then he has a right to defend himself, even if it means
severe bodily injury or death."

Florida law gives people the right of "self-defense without the duty to
retreat." That means individuals can use deadly force virtually anywhere
to prevent death or serious injury.

Lovell could not be reached for comment despite calls and visits to his
home.

Yeah, good job, hat's off to mr. Lovell. Probably changed the whole
attitude of crims in Lauderdale. I bet it's a while before a couple
armed punks rush some guy at a sandwich shop. Bet gun crime goes down a
bunch there in the future.

On 3/29/12 8:02 PM, Earl wrote:
X ` Man wrote:

Wrong, ****-for-brains. My interest in the case in based upon
Florida's nutcase "stand your ground" law. It's an ugly law that leads
to over the top violence.

Can you give an example? I can:

Some are calling a former U.S. Marine a hero for shooting two men —
killing one — during the botched robbery of a sandwich shop in
Plantation. But the men's friends and family want to know how he could
gun them down and not be charged.

John Lovell had just finished dinner at about 11:15 p.m. Wednesday when,
Plantation police say, two men armed with guns rushed inside a Subway
shop and demanded cash. After robbing the store, the men turned to
Lovell. They wanted his money, police said.

But like his attackers, Lovell was armed.

The retired military man opened fire, shooting dead Donicio Arrindell,
22, of North Lauderdale, and critically injuring Fredrick Gadson, 21, of
Fort Lauderdale.


The case you cited has very little to do with the typical "stand your
ground" cases. The shooter acted in the midst of a violent felony being
committed and about to be committed on him. He didn't shoot the robbers
because he "thought" they presented a threat to him. The robbers were
armed, and their firearms were visible. It was justified self-defense.

On 3/29/12 8:08 PM, JustWait wrote:


Yeah, good job, hat's off to mr. Lovell. Probably changed the whole
attitude of crims in Lauderdale. I bet it's a while before a couple
armed punks rush some guy at a sandwich shop. Bet gun crime goes down a
bunch there in the future.

You're an uninformed, uneducated, ignorant little toad, and you really
shouldn't comment on "the news of the day," since you don't have the
competence to do so.

You should stick to what you know: imagining yourself as victimized by
minorities, demonstrating how far you've been mislead by Fox News, and
being a foil for the moronic "trickle down" economics of the GOP. What
you feel tricking down on you is their ****.

In article ,
says...

On 3/29/12 8:08 PM, JustWait wrote:


Yeah, good job, hat's off to mr. Lovell. Probably changed the whole
attitude of crims in Lauderdale. I bet it's a while before a couple
armed punks rush some guy at a sandwich shop. Bet gun crime goes down a
bunch there in the future.

You're an uninformed, uneducated, ignorant little toad, and you really
shouldn't comment on "the news of the day," since you don't have the
competence to do so.

You should stick to what you know: imagining yourself as victimized by
minorities, demonstrating how far you've been mislead by Fox News, and
being a foil for the moronic "trickle down" economics of the GOP. What
you feel tricking down on you is their ****.

Has crime gone down in Florida since concealed carry has been permitted?