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I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about
15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17 & 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? |
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On Mar 17, 11:19*am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17 & 18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. |
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17 & 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? === What happened to your Princecraft? |
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On Mar 17, 11:39*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17 & 18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? === What happened to your Princecraft? Nothing... well the old battery is getting weak and I feel a lightvibration in the tiller handle at a certain RPM. The wife says she will be more likely to go out with me in a slightly bigger, more comfortable boat read... further away from the wind and water ;-) If I knew for sure she was just humoring me I'd rather buy a small micro-cruiser type sailboat. maybe a Montgomery 15. We have numerous bays, harbours, inlets etc for gunkholing and a small overnighter that I can tow would be ideal. The only trouble I see for solo sailing is the small fixed keel which would complicate things at our numerous primitive launches with their shallow entry and no nearby wharf to tie up to while parking the tow vehicle. |
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North Star wrote:
I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? At that price range I would recommend buying a new boat with a warranty on the motor. If you time it right, you can get 4+ years on the outboard warranty. Used boats in that category are always a gamble and what you save initially will be soon lost in the cost of repairs, your time, and loss of use. Here's a new 16' Lund with a 60hp 4-stroke for $15K. If you have that brand in your area you could save maybe $1K downsizing to a 40HP. |
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North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. If you are determined to get a used boat, try this... http://www.boattrader.com/ Are they hard to find in your area? |
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North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:39 am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? === What happened to your Princecraft? Nothing... well the old battery is getting weak and I feel a lightvibration in the tiller handle at a certain RPM. The wife says she will be more likely to go out with me in a slightly bigger, more comfortable boat read... further away from the wind and water ;-) If I knew for sure she was just humoring me I'd rather buy a small micro-cruiser type sailboat. maybe a Montgomery 15. We have numerous bays, harbours, inlets etc for gunkholing and a small overnighter that I can tow would be ideal. The only trouble I see for solo sailing is the small fixed keel which would complicate things at our numerous primitive launches with their shallow entry and no nearby wharf to tie up to while parking the tow vehicle. Check your prop. That's probably the source of the vibration unless it's at a really low speed which would be normal for a small tiller-steer. |
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On Mar 17, 9:49*pm, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote: On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star *wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17& *18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. If you are determined to get a used boat, try this... http://www.boattrader.com/ Are they hard to find in your area? Yup... good 2nd hand models don't seem to make it to the dealers or to Kijiji/Graigs List. I'd guess people either keep them or sell to family or friends. Being right on the ocean, there seems to be a lot more fiberglass sailboats & powerboats. |
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:34:35 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:19*am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17 & 18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. Why not buy the trailer in Canada, tow it down to the boat, and bring the boat back thereon? |
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On Mar 18, 2:14*pm, Happy John wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:34:35 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: On Mar 17, 11:19*am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17 & 18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. Why not buy the trailer in Canada, tow it down to the boat, and bring the boat back thereon? I've thought about that... especially after the hassle I had back in 2007. I would have to find a seller who was willing to break up his rig and deduct an agreed amount from the selling price to reflect that. |
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North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 9:49 pm, wrote: North Star wrote: On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. If you are determined to get a used boat, try this... http://www.boattrader.com/ Are they hard to find in your area? Yup... good 2nd hand models don't seem to make it to the dealers or to Kijiji/Graigs List. I'd guess people either keep them or sell to family or friends. Being right on the ocean, there seems to be a lot more fiberglass sailboats& powerboats. That would make sense but you do have a lot of good freshwater fishing there, too. I'd be patient and keep looking. |
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Happy John wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:34:35 -0700 (PDT), North wrote: On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. Why not buy the trailer in Canada, tow it down to the boat, and bring the boat back thereon? Good idea! Trailers are cheap and easy to sell. |
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On Mar 19, 9:16*pm, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote: On Mar 17, 9:49 pm, *wrote: North Star wrote: On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star * *wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17& * *18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. If you are determined to get a used boat, try this... http://www.boattrader.com/ Are they hard to find in your area? Yup... good 2nd hand models don't seem to make it to the dealers or to Kijiji/Graigs List. I'd guess people either keep them or sell to family or friends. Being right on the ocean, there seems to be a lot more fiberglass sailboats& *powerboats. That would make sense but you do have a lot of good freshwater fishing there, too. *I'd be patient and keep looking. I'm talking to a guy in Alabama who is selling a like new 2010 model of the small micro-cruiser sailboat I like. It would save me somewhere north of $3K to drive down and tow home this boat (3600 miles round trip) but it's missing two options I'd really like to have... opening ports in the cabin and a stern rail in the cockpit. I had a new Siren 17 sailboat in the same size range back in the 80s and I found the new smell of fibreglass a bit overwhelming. What to do??? |
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In article 0cd2e373-bc33-4cee-a2c5-
, says... On Mar 19, 9:16*pm, Earl wrote: North Star wrote: On Mar 17, 9:49 pm, *wrote: North Star wrote: On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star * *wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17& * *18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. If you are determined to get a used boat, try this... http://www.boattrader.com/ Are they hard to find in your area? Yup... good 2nd hand models don't seem to make it to the dealers or to Kijiji/Graigs List. I'd guess people either keep them or sell to family or friends. Being right on the ocean, there seems to be a lot more fiberglass sailboats& *powerboats. That would make sense but you do have a lot of good freshwater fishing there, too. *I'd be patient and keep looking. I'm talking to a guy in Alabama who is selling a like new 2010 model of the small micro-cruiser sailboat I like. It would save me somewhere north of $3K to drive down and tow home this boat (3600 miles round trip) but it's missing two options I'd really like to have... opening ports in the cabin and a stern rail in the cockpit. I had a new Siren 17 sailboat in the same size range back in the 80s and I found the new smell of fibreglass a bit overwhelming. What to do??? A condescending asshole like you would probably get the **** kicked out of him in Alabama. |
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote: I'm talking to a guy in Alabama who is selling a like new 2010 model of the small micro-cruiser sailboat I like. It would save me somewhere north of $3K to drive down and tow home this boat (3600 miles round trip) but it's missing two options I'd really like to have... opening ports in the cabin and a stern rail in the cockpit. I had a new Siren 17 sailboat in the same size range back in the 80s and I found the new smell of fibreglass a bit overwhelming. What to do??? === That's a long way to drive for the wrong boat. |
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North Star wrote:
On Mar 19, 9:16 pm, wrote: North Star wrote: On Mar 17, 9:49 pm, wrote: North Star wrote: On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote: On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about 15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or aluminum trailer. New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of course I'd like one in almost new condition. In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders. I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs. Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots of this style available? The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices. I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will offset any gains in buying cheaper. If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian standards. The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was importing a car) I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and 9% PST on the trailer value. This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation. All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'. If you are determined to get a used boat, try this... http://www.boattrader.com/ Are they hard to find in your area? Yup... good 2nd hand models don't seem to make it to the dealers or to Kijiji/Graigs List. I'd guess people either keep them or sell to family or friends. Being right on the ocean, there seems to be a lot more fiberglass sailboats& powerboats. That would make sense but you do have a lot of good freshwater fishing there, too. I'd be patient and keep looking. I'm talking to a guy in Alabama who is selling a like new 2010 model of the small micro-cruiser sailboat I like. It would save me somewhere north of $3K to drive down and tow home this boat (3600 miles round trip) but it's missing two options I'd really like to have... opening ports in the cabin and a stern rail in the cockpit. I had a new Siren 17 sailboat in the same size range back in the 80s and I found the new smell of fibreglass a bit overwhelming. What to do??? You can add the ports and rail, right? Factor that in and make your decision... |
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