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Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
On 1/19/2012 2:20 PM, X ` Man wrote:
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO What's next? Close all the public restrooms? |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:20:56 -0500, X ` Man
wrote: Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO === Yet another branch of the federal government that is out of control and out of touch. They should have their funding cut. Although the National Park Service does a good job with some things, there should be a mandate for public forums on all proposed rule making and strong justification required for anything that limits public access and use. |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
On 1/19/12 4:25 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:20:56 -0500, X ` Man wrote: Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO === Yet another branch of the federal government that is out of control and out of touch. They should have their funding cut. Although the National Park Service does a good job with some things, there should be a mandate for public forums on all proposed rule making and strong justification required for anything that limits public access and use. There's a 350-page analysis of various proposals to bring the area back from the ravages of hurricanes, water pollution, overuse, etc.: http://parkplanning.nps.gov/document...mentID =42715 The spots on the map that are suggested for the reserve seem to comprise a pretty small percentage of the area in question. |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:20:56 -0500, X ` Man wrote: Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO === Yet another branch of the federal government that is out of control and out of touch. They should have their funding cut. Although the National Park Service does a good job with some things, there should be a mandate for public forums on all proposed rule making and strong justification required for anything that limits public access and use. I agree. Ever see a "US Government Property - No Trespassing" sign? What the hell does that really mean? |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
On Jan 19, 3:34*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:20:56 -0500, X ` Man wrote: Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO This is the ongoing fight between environmentalists who want us to look at pictures of a wilderness and people who actually want to use the resource. They have made a preserve of big parts of the Keys already. The right answer is probably somewhere in the middle. I am sure boating and fishing pressure on that little patch from millions of people from Miami is impacting it. The question is how to responsibly use the resource without destroying it. We have a few IC motor free zones around here and the manatee zones are everywhere. I bet if this really catches on, you are going to see some high performance electric boats. Or.... http://www.sunlive.co.nz/assets/imag...r-turbine4.jpg |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
On 1/19/12 8:18 PM, Earl wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:20:56 -0500, X ` Man wrote: Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO === Yet another branch of the federal government that is out of control and out of touch. They should have their funding cut. Although the National Park Service does a good job with some things, there should be a mandate for public forums on all proposed rule making and strong justification required for anything that limits public access and use. I agree. Ever see a "US Government Property - No Trespassing" sign? What the hell does that really mean? Uh...No Trespassing? |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
On 1/19/2012 9:11 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 19, 3:34 pm, wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:20:56 -0500, X ` Man wrote: Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO This is the ongoing fight between environmentalists who want us to look at pictures of a wilderness and people who actually want to use the resource. They have made a preserve of big parts of the Keys already. The right answer is probably somewhere in the middle. I am sure boating and fishing pressure on that little patch from millions of people from Miami is impacting it. The question is how to responsibly use the resource without destroying it. We have a few IC motor free zones around here and the manatee zones are everywhere. I bet if this really catches on, you are going to see some high performance electric boats. Or.... http://www.sunlive.co.nz/assets/imag...r-turbine4.jpg That's just a regular old fishin' boat down in Georgia;) |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
On Jan 19, 9:12*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:18:53 -0500, Earl wrote: I agree. Ever see a "US Government Property - No Trespassing" sign? What the hell does that really mean? Some places it means "do you want to see a nasty GI with a gun, *up close"? This is NORAD The answer was "no" and I couldn't take a picture at the gate. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/NORAD.jpg Greg, I think that manhole behind you is where they stuff you if you go past the sign... |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
On Jan 20, 1:03*am, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:06:17 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Jan 19, 9:12*pm, wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:18:53 -0500, Earl wrote: I agree. Ever see a "US Government Property - No Trespassing" sign? What the hell does that really mean? Some places it means "do you want to see a nasty GI with a gun, *up close"? This is NORAD The answer was "no" and I couldn't take a picture at the gate. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/colorado/NORAD.jpg Greg, I think that manhole behind you is where they stuff you if you go past the sign... They are pretty serious about keeping people out. I called a couple times trying to get a tour. Oh yes, I know. "Restricted" doesn't mean "C'mon in" |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
X ` Man wrote:
On 1/19/12 8:18 PM, Earl wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:20:56 -0500, X ` Man wrote: Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO === Yet another branch of the federal government that is out of control and out of touch. They should have their funding cut. Although the National Park Service does a good job with some things, there should be a mandate for public forums on all proposed rule making and strong justification required for anything that limits public access and use. I agree. Ever see a "US Government Property - No Trespassing" sign? What the hell does that really mean? Uh...No Trespassing? Of course. On public land paid by...taxpayers? I get the security concern but I think the signs could be worded better to illustrate that point. |
Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:20:56 -0500, X ` Man wrote: Public Access Threatened at Biscayne National Park Protect Boating and Fishing Access The National Park Service at Biscayne National Park recently released a draft General Management Plan (GMP), which proposes to close over 20 percent of public waters to recreational boating and fishing. Numerous stakeholders are opposed to this broad public access closure, including the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC). The Park Service’s proposals include establishment of between a 10,000 to 21,000-acre marine reserve within Biscayne National Park’s boundaries. This vast marine reserve would entirely prohibit recreational fishing. Additionally, the Park’s plans establish several “no combustion engine zones” which act as de facto closure of the Park’s waters to boating, as engine powered boats will find it nearly impossible to launch from shore and other prohibited areas within the park. Complete article at: http://www.capwiz.com/nmma/issues/al...740581&type=CO This is the ongoing fight between environmentalists who want us to look at pictures of a wilderness and people who actually want to use the resource. They have made a preserve of big parts of the Keys already. The right answer is probably somewhere in the middle. I am sure boating and fishing pressure on that little patch from millions of people from Miami is impacting it. The question is how to responsibly use the resource without destroying it. We have a few IC motor free zones around here and the manatee zones are everywhere. I bet if this really catches on, you are going to see some high performance electric boats. ------------------------------------------------- Same problem with MLPA's. I am with a group suing the state of California over the methods of implementation. They are going to kill people. Making about 80% of the areas a small skiff fisherman can safely fish out of bounds. One of the former members of the implementation committee, since died, was from Carmel and at the last minute included Carmel Bay. With the comment that they will not have to look at those fisherman's boats anymore. No verifiable science involved as required by law. |
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