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the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat
that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! |
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On Jan 2, 10:11*pm, JustWait wrote:
the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... *Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! two heavily armed 454's in a 17' boat? was it prop or jet drive? |
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On 1/2/2012 11:26 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 2, 10:11 pm, wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! two heavily armed 454's in a 17' boat? was it prop or jet drive? I can't say for sure, I think it was a prop drive. I also remember the boat was capable of about 75 Mph according to the owner... I think the fastest I was ever pulled was a bit over 40 and that was frekin' nuts... |
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On 1/2/12 11:11 PM, JustWait wrote:
the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! Hallett made some boats that might fit that description back in the 1970s, but I don't recall any boats in the length you remember with a pair of 454's. In fact, I have a hard time envisioning how you'd cram them into a small hull of that length. Could it have been one 454 with dual blowers? |
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On 1/3/2012 6:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/2/12 11:11 PM, JustWait wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! Hallett made some boats that might fit that description back in the 1970s, but I don't recall any boats in the length you remember with a pair of 454's. In fact, I have a hard time envisioning how you'd cram them into a small hull of that length. Could it have been one 454 with dual blowers? Nope, definitely two engines... I seem to recall there being only a dozen or so of these boats made according to the family that owned it... They were into real estate and they did pretty well for a family with 7 kids... |
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:32:39 -0500, X ` Man
wrote: Could it have been one 454 with dual blowers? === Probably dual turbos, one on each side. Even a pair of 350s would be next to impossible in that size, a very tight fit even on a 24 footer. |
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On 1/3/12 8:08 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:32:39 -0500, X ` wrote: Could it have been one 454 with dual blowers? === Probably dual turbos, one on each side. Even a pair of 350s would be next to impossible in that size, a very tight fit even on a 24 footer. Speaking of twin-engined 24 footers, my dad was the dealer for this line for the few years it was in production: http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/J01moQ Twin Caddy Crusaders, 600 horsepower, with a written guarantee the boat would do a minimum of 60 mph. The tailfins were...huge. I don't recall the displacement of the two V8's, but I do remember that they were side by side in the hull and they barely fit. |
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On 1/2/2012 11:26 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 2, 10:11 pm, wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! two heavily armed 454's in a 17' boat? was it prop or jet drive? Did chrysler make a 454? |
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On 1/3/2012 8:59 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/2/2012 11:26 PM, Tim wrote: On Jan 2, 10:11 pm, wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! two heavily armed 454's in a 17' boat? was it prop or jet drive? Did chrysler make a 454? There is a possibility they were not... I remember the kids saying they were, can't say for sure I remember the dad saying it but I think so I would have picked up on it if they weren't, I spend enough time with them and the boat was always a topic of conversation, even at the lake... But who knows, they could have been bs'ing me. I wouldn't know a 454 from a 350 bck then anyway... But there were two engines, that much is definite. It was a straight up go fast... just a short one. |
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On Jan 2, 11:11*pm, JustWait wrote:
the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... *Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! "Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet. |
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On Jan 3, 6:32*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/2/12 11:11 PM, JustWait wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! Hallett made some boats that might fit that description back in the 1970s, but I don't recall any boats in the length you remember with a pair of 454's. In fact, I have a hard time envisioning how you'd cram them into a small hull of that length. Could it have been one 454 with dual blowers? Not even that would work. |
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On Jan 3, 9:47*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 1/2/2012 11:26 PM, Tim wrote: On Jan 2, 10:11 pm, *wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... *Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! two heavily armed 454's in a 17' boat? *was it prop or jet drive? Did chrysler make a 454? Not that I know of, 454's were GM. Olds made a 455. They also used 350 rocket engines. My friend currently has a Jet Boat with a 350 Olds engine in it. |
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On 1/4/2012 7:13 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jan 3, 6:32 am, X ` wrote: On 1/2/12 11:11 PM, JustWait wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! Hallett made some boats that might fit that description back in the 1970s, but I don't recall any boats in the length you remember with a pair of 454's. In fact, I have a hard time envisioning how you'd cram them into a small hull of that length. Could it have been one 454 with dual blowers? Not even that would work. Well, it did work. I spend a couple summers in that boat... |
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On 1/4/2012 7:12 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! "Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet. This was one of the original "go fast" boats. It was a factory built dual engine. I know the length was what I said or very close because I remember towing it and I remember when they got the (towable) Starcraft the next season and they were parked next to each other. Trust me, this has me going, I just found one of the brothers in the phone book, I might just give him a call and see what he remembers... |
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On 1/4/12 7:28 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:12 AM, *e#c wrote: On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! "Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet. This was one of the original "go fast" boats. It was a factory built dual engine. I know the length was what I said or very close because I remember towing it and I remember when they got the (towable) Starcraft the next season and they were parked next to each other. Trust me, this has me going, I just found one of the brothers in the phone book, I might just give him a call and see what he remembers... The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had to weigh at least around 600 pounds each. |
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On 1/4/2012 7:51 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 1/4/12 7:28 AM, JustWait wrote: On 1/4/2012 7:12 AM, *e#c wrote: On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! "Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet. This was one of the original "go fast" boats. It was a factory built dual engine. I know the length was what I said or very close because I remember towing it and I remember when they got the (towable) Starcraft the next season and they were parked next to each other. Trust me, this has me going, I just found one of the brothers in the phone book, I might just give him a call and see what he remembers... The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had to weigh at least around 600 pounds each. Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were 350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26 feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin... |
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On 1/4/12 8:13 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:51 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 1/4/12 7:28 AM, JustWait wrote: On 1/4/2012 7:12 AM, *e#c wrote: On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! "Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet. This was one of the original "go fast" boats. It was a factory built dual engine. I know the length was what I said or very close because I remember towing it and I remember when they got the (towable) Starcraft the next season and they were parked next to each other. Trust me, this has me going, I just found one of the brothers in the phone book, I might just give him a call and see what he remembers... The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had to weigh at least around 600 pounds each. Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were 350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26 feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin... I'm not doubting what you are saying, I'm just a bit overwhelmed by the physics that had to be involved keeping that small boat together and on rather than under the surface. The 350s wouldn't have been that much narrower or lighter than the larger engines. A throttle pedal on a strong "dead man's spring" would have made sense, since it would have taken both hands on the wheel at all times to control that tiny boat at speed. My father built a utility racing boat in the early 1950's that was 13' long, weighed next to nothing and was powered by a hopped up Evinrude 50 from the late 1940's, or somewhere around there. It was very fast, but pretty much unusable on LI Sound because it didn't get along with the chop. We took it up to Lake Zoar and Lake Candlewood a few times. He never let me drive it. Hell, my mother wouldn't even let me go out in the boat with my dad if she was around to watch. The boat had a floor pedal throttle. |
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:13:06 -0500, JustWait
wrote: The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had to weigh at least around 600 pounds each. Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were 350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26 feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin... The maximum trailerable beam is 102 inches, a spec which most boats under 24 feet or so comply with. I've seem a few 24 footers with twin 350s and you can barely work on the engines, don't see how you could cram them into an 18 footer unless it was unusually wide. I believe 454s would be totally impossible. With transmission, a typical 454 goes around 1,000 lbs plus or minus, and is something like 6 to 8 inches wider than a 350 if memory serves. |
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On 1/4/2012 12:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:13:06 -0500, JustWait wrote: The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had to weigh at least around 600 pounds each. Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were 350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26 feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin... The maximum trailerable beam is 102 inches, a spec which most boats under 24 feet or so comply with. I've seem a few 24 footers with twin 350s and you can barely work on the engines, don't see how you could cram them into an 18 footer unless it was unusually wide. I believe 454s would be totally impossible. With transmission, a typical 454 goes around 1,000 lbs plus or minus, and is something like 6 to 8 inches wider than a 350 if memory serves. Well, like I said, they could have been smaller engines but there were two and we towed it, and it was smaller than the towable 22-24 foot starcraft type aluminum they towed... |
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"*e#c" wrote in message
... On Jan 2, 11:11 pm, JustWait wrote: the other day got me looking. When I was young my neighbors had a boat that I was told was a very limited edition. IIRC it was 17 1/2 feet long, and green. It had a walk through bow with two half cone (batmobile type) windscreens in front of the seats. The cockpit was very elaborate, like a jet airliner. The boat had fins on the back like a Batmobile too, the bat was deliberately and shamelessly designed after the Batmobile.. but the main event was the dual blown Chrysler 454's that ran the sucker... We used to go waterskiing behind it at like 1/4 throttle Anyway, I am going crazy trying to find more info on this boat to see how close my recollection of it is.. The boat would have been new around probably 1970 or so... Has anybody here heard of one of these, any info available, trying to find out who made them, a picture or something to tell me it wasn't only a dream;)? Thanks, LOL! "Twin , blown 454s" in a 17 1/2 foot boat. ? Sorry, I'd have to see something that overpowered in person, or a good photo. I cant believe that. There just isnt enough room. The Beam would have to be 10 feet. Lots of twins less than 10' wide. My buddy has a duel diesel jetboat that is less than 10' w. 25' long. |
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On 1/4/2012 1:09 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/4/2012 12:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:13:06 -0500, JustWait wrote: The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had to weigh at least around 600 pounds each. Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were 350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26 feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin... The maximum trailerable beam is 102 inches, a spec which most boats under 24 feet or so comply with. I've seem a few 24 footers with twin 350s and you can barely work on the engines, don't see how you could cram them into an 18 footer unless it was unusually wide. I believe 454s would be totally impossible. With transmission, a typical 454 goes around 1,000 lbs plus or minus, and is something like 6 to 8 inches wider than a 350 if memory serves. Well, like I said, they could have been smaller engines but there were two and we towed it, and it was smaller than the towable 22-24 foot starcraft type aluminum they towed... It would be nice to come up with some pictures or docs. on the boat. Our recollections can fade and become fuszzy over time. |
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On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:19:37 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote: Lots of twins less than 10' wide. My buddy has a duel diesel jetboat that is less than 10' w. 25' long. === Lots of diesels suitable for that kind of boat are straight 4s or 6s, much easier to cram in side by side than big block V-8s. |
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On 1/4/12 3:22 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:19:37 -0800, "Califbill" wrote: Lots of twins less than 10' wide. My buddy has a duel diesel jetboat that is less than 10' w. 25' long. === Lots of diesels suitable for that kind of boat are straight 4s or 6s, much easier to cram in side by side than big block V-8s. The boat that was the subject of this discussion was a 17 to 18 footer, with twin V8 gasoline engines of uncertain displacement. My knowledge of boats is far from unlimited, but I have a hard time imagining a boat of that length having sufficient beam or structural integrity to handle two V8 engines connected to shafts and props. I've seen jetboats of around that size, maybe a bit longer, with a single V8. It just seems to me that a 17-18' boat with twin V8 engines could only be named "Daddy's Lil Tort." As I mentioned, my father for a short time sold a line of fast speedboats around 24' long and equipped with two V8 engines. But those boats were a hell of a lot larger than the 17 to 18 footer under discussion. |
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On 1/4/2012 1:36 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 1/4/2012 1:09 PM, JustWait wrote: On 1/4/2012 12:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 08:13:06 -0500, JustWait wrote: The manufacturer of that boat probably was sued out of existence, and rightfully so. A boat of that size with the kind of power you described is inherently unsafe in many ways. Those two engines you described had to weigh at least around 600 pounds each. Racing hulls (which this was) are registered under different regulations for safety and such... I was young but I remember the boat clearly. The one "concession" I will make in the description is that they may not have been 454's... Thinking back (and I didn't know **** from engines or cars back then) and compared to what I know now, I am betting they were 350's or similar... I keep remembering too that it may have had a throttle pedal as opposed to a hand operated lever, that is real fuzzy though. Just for reference, this would have been 1972-74. The boat would probably have been either new, or very close as they bought new boats every year or two and moved up in size. This one however was smaller than the one preceeding it and the next one was back up around 22-26 feet or so. I think it was an aluminum Starcraft with a cabin... The maximum trailerable beam is 102 inches, a spec which most boats under 24 feet or so comply with. I've seem a few 24 footers with twin 350s and you can barely work on the engines, don't see how you could cram them into an 18 footer unless it was unusually wide. I believe 454s would be totally impossible. With transmission, a typical 454 goes around 1,000 lbs plus or minus, and is something like 6 to 8 inches wider than a 350 if memory serves. Well, like I said, they could have been smaller engines but there were two and we towed it, and it was smaller than the towable 22-24 foot starcraft type aluminum they towed... It would be nice to come up with some pictures or docs. on the boat. Our recollections can fade and become fuszzy over time. Yeah, and I was young and didn't know from engines or boats back then so I have little reference... |
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