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NOYB October 7th 03 12:30 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!

The stock market has always been a pretty good indicator of where our
economy is headed.

That's why it shed 10% of it's value from January 2000 through December
2000...the year leading up to the recession.







Gould 0738 October 7th 03 12:37 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!


Hey, OK!

Our group dentist is prescribing stuff to put in a pipe and smoke.

It's legal with a prescription, right? Restores appetite following a root
canal?
:-)


Gould 0738 October 7th 03 01:10 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
It's sweet seeing those balances jump up. Heck, I even made 13% in
2002.



Retirement account now up to $113? :-)
OK, that was a low blow.....but discussing personal finances in a forum like
this is fraught with peril and not in the best of taste, either. IMO.




NOYB October 7th 03 01:45 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:30:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!

The stock market has always been a pretty good indicator of where our
economy is headed.

That's why it shed 10% of it's value from January 2000 through December
2000...the year leading up to the recession.


I'll be more impressed when the jobless are being re-employed.


Good. Then August's payroll data report should have really impressed
you...a net gain of 57,000 newly hired.



scottht October 7th 03 02:18 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is upalmost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
Up in Syracuse, Carrier Corp. just announced it was laying off 1,200

NOYB wrote:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:30:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!

The stock market has always been a pretty good indicator of where our
economy is headed.

That's why it shed 10% of it's value from January 2000 through December
2000...the year leading up to the recession.


I'll be more impressed when the jobless are being re-employed.


Good. Then August's payroll data report should have really impressed
you...a net gain of 57,000 newly hired.



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NOYB October 7th 03 02:35 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 

"scottht" wrote in message
...
Up in Syracuse, Carrier Corp. just announced it was laying off 1,200


Let's see how the Dems blame this one on Bush.

They'll pay no attention to the real reasons for the layoffs:

"These decisions reflect, in part, market requirements. The global container
market has become Asian-focused, with more than 80 percent of our container
refrigeration products currently being shipped to Asia," Amyuni said. We
must be located nearer to our markets."

"Company spokesman Jonathan Shaw said Carrier's compressor business has
fallen by 50 percent over the last three years, reflecting an industrywide
decline as customers have switched to newer technology"

"I've struggled at different jobs to stay in manufacturing but manufacturing
is dying in this country. I'm getting out. I'm going to use this as an
opportunity to start a new life," said Pate (10 year Carrier employee), who
said he might pursue work in the medical field."



Harry Krause October 7th 03 02:37 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is upalmost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
scottht wrote:

Up in Syracuse, Carrier Corp. just announced it was laying off 1,200

NOYB wrote:



NOYB doesn't care about actual, real jobs...but he does count those jobs
folks have to take because they are desperate.


Harry Krause October 7th 03 02:39 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is upalmost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
NOYB wrote:

To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!

The stock market has always been a pretty good indicator of where our
economy is headed.

That's why it shed 10% of it's value from January 2000 through December
2000...the year leading up to the recession.







The Dow usually goes up along with news of layoffs. It is a wonderful
indicator.


NOYB October 7th 03 02:47 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
Harry doesn't know how to stop the flow of manufacturing jobs out of this
country...and neither did our 42nd President. In fact, it was Bubba that
signed NAFTA and started the efflux. But, it's convenient for Harry to
blame Bush for the losses.




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
scottht wrote:

Up in Syracuse, Carrier Corp. just announced it was laying off 1,200

NOYB wrote:



NOYB doesn't care about actual, real jobs...but he does count those jobs
folks have to take because they are desperate.




NOYB October 7th 03 02:49 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
That's not what happened with the news of all the layoffs that started in
early 2000. The market dropped 10% that year.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!

The stock market has always been a pretty good indicator of where our
economy is headed.

That's why it shed 10% of it's value from January 2000 through December
2000...the year leading up to the recession.







The Dow usually goes up along with news of layoffs. It is a wonderful
indicator.




Mark Browne October 7th 03 03:19 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
m...
Harry doesn't know how to stop the flow of manufacturing jobs out of this
country...and neither did our 42nd President. In fact, it was Bubba that
signed NAFTA and started the efflux. But, it's convenient for Harry to
blame Bush for the losses.

snip

Ok Dr. Tooth, how *do* we keep the jobs from flowing to $20/day countries?

Mark Browne





NOYB October 7th 03 03:34 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
I dunno either. But I do know that you can't blame the current
administration for it.


"Mark Browne" wrote in message
news:Iopgb.692397$YN5.558129@sccrnsc01...

"NOYB" wrote in message
m...
Harry doesn't know how to stop the flow of manufacturing jobs out of

this
country...and neither did our 42nd President. In fact, it was Bubba

that
signed NAFTA and started the efflux. But, it's convenient for Harry to
blame Bush for the losses.

snip

Ok Dr. Tooth, how *do* we keep the jobs from flowing to $20/day countries?






jps October 7th 03 05:02 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:30:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!

The stock market has always been a pretty good indicator of where our
economy is headed.

That's why it shed 10% of it's value from January 2000 through December
2000...the year leading up to the recession.



It's sweet seeing those balances jump up. Heck, I even made 13% in
2002.



You didn't make **** unless you sold it. Your balance may have increased,
but then it probably fell about 50% the year before.



jps October 7th 03 05:03 AM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
"NOYB" wrote in message
m...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message


I'll be more impressed when the jobless are being re-employed.


Good. Then August's payroll data report should have really impressed
you...a net gain of 57,000 newly hired.


Mostly temp jobs with no benefits.



NOYB October 7th 03 03:06 PM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
m...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message


I'll be more impressed when the jobless are being re-employed.


Good. Then August's payroll data report should have really impressed
you...a net gain of 57,000 newly hired.


Mostly temp jobs with no benefits.


Not just temp jobs, but independent contractors, and the self-employed.

Temp jobs don't have benefits. However, independent contractors and the
self-employed have wonderful "benefits"...via tax breaks for capital
expenditures, health insurance, and various other things. Did you know you
could buy a Hummer right now (if you're in the right business) and expense
the entire amount so that it's a tax deduction? Shoot, you could probably
do the same with a boat if you could show it was for entertaining clients.




basskisser October 7th 03 08:17 PM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
"NOYB" wrote in message news:G0ogb.11299
Good. Then August's payroll data report should have really impressed
you...a net gain of 57,000 newly hired.


Terrific, voodoo economics at it's best. The ignorant right saying,
look, we've created 57,000 new jobs. It only cost the government x
trillion dollars, x thousands of lives, and oh, lets just not say
anything about the other 7/8 of the people that have lost jobs under
Bush.

basskisser October 7th 03 08:20 PM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
"NOYB" wrote in message k.net...
To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!


Now if someone from the left was to say that, those head in there ass
republicans would accuse them of being drug addicts.

NOYB October 8th 03 06:04 PM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 
Interesting reading Gene...but here are the facts (from your source):


* Professional and business services added 66,000 jobs
* Architectural and engineering services increased by 9,000
* Health care and social assistance increased by 15,000
* Air transportation added 3,000 jobs
* Motor vehicle and parts dealers increased by 8,000
* Building material and garden supply increased by 7,000
* Construction employment continued to trend upward, with 137,00 jobs added
since February
* Employment in financial activities continued to trend upwards, averaging
an increase of 5,000 jobs per month over the last four months

In fact, the only things to fall were manufacturing jobs by 29,000, and
government jobs at the local education level (***after seasonal
adjustment***) by 44,000.

I should lend you my glasses with the rose-colored lenses to replace the
****-colored ones you're wearing. ;-)





"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:45:26 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:30:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!

The stock market has always been a pretty good indicator of where our
economy is headed.

That's why it shed 10% of it's value from January 2000 through

December
2000...the year leading up to the recession.


I'll be more impressed when the jobless are being re-employed.


Good. Then August's payroll data report should have really impressed
you...a net gain of 57,000 newly hired.


No....NO....NOT good.... and *you* know or should know that it is not
good, too.... it is so a small percentage of the total as to be
negligible AND it is comprised largely of temporary help.

I had to read that little book, "How to Lie With Statistics" when I
was in school, too.... you aren't going to make any points on me
quoting crap like that...

For anybody who cares to know the *whole* story, see:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

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NOYB October 8th 03 06:04 PM

OT--The Dow is up 30% from October '02...and the Nasdaq is up almost 70% from 1 year ago!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message

k.net...
To all you doomsayers...

Put *that* in your pipe and smoke it!


Now if someone from the left was to say that, those head in there ass
republicans would accuse them of being drug addicts.


'cause you guys would take it literally...




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