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iBoaterer[_2_] November 23rd 11 03:22 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 11/23/11 8:40 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 23, 9:05 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/23/11 7:56 AM, BAR wrote:





In ,
says...

On 22/11/2011 6:52 PM, X ` Man wrote:

GOP candidate discussion on foreign policy. According to Herman Cain,
Iran has mountains.

Found it, a reminder of 0bama's knowledge of USA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Also checked, Iran has mountains, 5610 meters with year around snow
qualify in the fleabagger mind?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Iran

Krause steps in it again.

Hehehe. Gotta love rec.boats for its moronic righties.

Any number of commentators last night were poking fun at Cain's comments
about Cain's Iranian mountain statements.

"Iran has mountains..."

Time magazine had a recap:

47 minutes. We are back with a question from the audience, except there
is no question from the audience. An awkward minute or so later, a
questioner appears: ?If Israel attacked Iran to prevent Tehran from
getting nuclear weapons, would you help Israel launch the attack or
support it otherwise?? Cain answers without any answer. ?I would first
make sure that they had a credible plan for success, clarity of mission
and clarity of success. Remember, when you talk about attacking Iran, it
is a very mountainous region.? Imagine President Cain on the phone with
the Israeli Prime Minister. ?We will attack at dawn,? says the prime
minister. ?Have you considered the mountains?? inquires President Cain.

Read mohttp://swampland.time.com/2011/11/23...ile-not-watchi...

"Have you considered the mountains..."

Heheheh. What a frippin' moron Cain is. He's the perfect candidate for
dopers like you, Bertie.

The mountains are going to give the Israeli air force problems, Cain
apparently thinks.

D'oh.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Maybe Cain thinks the Israeli Air Force can't fly that high.



Most mountains in Iran are around 14,000 feet, no obstacle for the
Israeli air force. And the Iranian nuke facilities are in underground
concrete bunkers, so it isn't the mountains that are in the way.

Cain is just ignorant and apparently too intellectually lazy to be a
serious candidate.


Do you really think that the only obstacle in a mountain system for an
invading force is elevation? You sure are one stupid fool! They are a
perfect place for anti-aircraft batteries for one, let alone the fact
that they vast cave systems that exist are perfect for hiding.

iBoaterer[_2_] November 23rd 11 03:24 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
In article ,
says...

On 11/23/2011 8:45 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/23/11 8:40 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 23, 9:05 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/23/11 7:56 AM, BAR wrote:





In ,
says...

On 22/11/2011 6:52 PM, X ` Man wrote:

GOP candidate discussion on foreign policy. According to Herman Cain,
Iran has mountains.

Found it, a reminder of 0bama's knowledge of USA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Also checked, Iran has mountains, 5610 meters with year around snow
qualify in the fleabagger mind?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Iran

Krause steps in it again.

Hehehe. Gotta love rec.boats for its moronic righties.

Any number of commentators last night were poking fun at Cain's comments
about Cain's Iranian mountain statements.

"Iran has mountains..."

Time magazine had a recap:

47 minutes. We are back with a question from the audience, except there
is no question from the audience. An awkward minute or so later, a
questioner appears: ?If Israel attacked Iran to prevent Tehran from
getting nuclear weapons, would you help Israel launch the attack or
support it otherwise?? Cain answers without any answer. ?I would first
make sure that they had a credible plan for success, clarity of mission
and clarity of success. Remember, when you talk about attacking Iran, it
is a very mountainous region.? Imagine President Cain on the phone with
the Israeli Prime Minister. ?We will attack at dawn,? says the prime
minister. ?Have you considered the mountains?? inquires President Cain.

Read
mohttp://swampland.time.com/2011/11/23...ile-not-watchi...


"Have you considered the mountains..."

Heheheh. What a frippin' moron Cain is. He's the perfect candidate for
dopers like you, Bertie.

The mountains are going to give the Israeli air force problems, Cain
apparently thinks.

D'oh.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe Cain thinks the Israeli Air Force can't fly that high.



Most mountains in Iran are around 14,000 feet, no obstacle for the
Israeli air force. And the Iranian nuke facilities are in underground
concrete bunkers, so it isn't the mountains that are in the way.

Cain is just ignorant and apparently too intellectually lazy to be a
serious candidate.


And you are too intellectually lazy to participate in a legit
conversation...


He's too stupid (and Suckling Don is too) to know that there are other
obstacles besides elevation. Perfect for hiding anti-aircraft weapons,
and there are vast cave systems that are good for hiding troops. Many of
them have been upgraded to have food, cooking facilities, sleeping
facilities, etc.

X ` Man[_3_] November 23rd 11 04:23 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
On 11/23/11 11:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:05:17 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The mountains are going to give the Israeli air force problems, Cain
apparently thinks.



It will present a problem if the facility they are trying to destroy
is in the middle of one of these mountains. Our penetrators are pretty
good but there is still a limit to what they can punch through.



Most if not all of the Iranian nuke facility locations are known, and
they are not in the mountains. Think Peenemünde and Nordhausen, with the
facilities in underground bunkers.

Canuck57[_9_] November 23rd 11 05:20 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
On 23/11/2011 6:45 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/23/11 8:40 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 23, 9:05 am, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/23/11 7:56 AM, BAR wrote:





In ,
says...

On 22/11/2011 6:52 PM, X ` Man wrote:

GOP candidate discussion on foreign policy. According to Herman Cain,
Iran has mountains.

Found it, a reminder of 0bama's knowledge of USA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Also checked, Iran has mountains, 5610 meters with year around snow
qualify in the fleabagger mind?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Iran

Krause steps in it again.

Hehehe. Gotta love rec.boats for its moronic righties.

Any number of commentators last night were poking fun at Cain's comments
about Cain's Iranian mountain statements.

"Iran has mountains..."

Time magazine had a recap:

47 minutes. We are back with a question from the audience, except there
is no question from the audience. An awkward minute or so later, a
questioner appears: “If Israel attacked Iran to prevent Tehran from
getting nuclear weapons, would you help Israel launch the attack or
support it otherwise?” Cain answers without any answer. “I would first
make sure that they had a credible plan for success, clarity of mission
and clarity of success. Remember, when you talk about attacking Iran, it
is a very mountainous region.” Imagine President Cain on the phone with
the Israeli Prime Minister. “We will attack at dawn,” says the prime
minister. “Have you considered the mountains?” inquires President Cain.

Read
mohttp://swampland.time.com/2011/11/23...ile-not-watchi...


"Have you considered the mountains..."

Heheheh. What a frippin' moron Cain is. He's the perfect candidate for
dopers like you, Bertie.

The mountains are going to give the Israeli air force problems, Cain
apparently thinks.

D'oh.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Maybe Cain thinks the Israeli Air Force can't fly that high.



Most mountains in Iran are around 14,000 feet, no obstacle for the
Israeli air force. And the Iranian nuke facilities are in underground
concrete bunkers, so it isn't the mountains that are in the way.

Cain is just ignorant and apparently too intellectually lazy to be a
serious candidate.


Just Liberal media ****ing away valuable time as a diversion from the
real issues of debt, government need to shrink etc. Makes good herd fodder.

Best for any politician to leave the war analysis to rank and file
analysts who can think how mountains affect the equation, and they do.
Mountains can to a small extent shield places from nuclear blasts. But
that is low level logistics crap a present really shouldn't be bothered
with too much.

But a nice media knee jerk to avoid reality. USA is bankrupt and
looking for war as the exit. If it is not Syria, it is Iran, or Russia
or China....everyone is wrong and DC is right mentality.

Fact is DC is corrupt and getting increasing desperate to preserve big
fat over priced inefficient ineffective huge government we can't afford.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

X ` Man[_3_] November 23rd 11 05:24 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
On 11/23/11 12:20 PM, Canuck57 wrote:

Best for any politician to leave the war analysis to rank and file
analysts who can think how mountains affect the equation, and they do.


But a nice media knee jerk to avoid reality. USA is bankrupt and looking
for war as the exit. If it is not Syria, it is Iran, or Russia or
China....everyone is wrong and DC is right mentality.

Fact is DC is corrupt and getting increasing desperate to preserve big
fat over priced inefficient ineffective huge government we can't afford.



Yawn. How many more times today are you going to repeat this bull**** of
yours?

X ` Man November 23rd 11 07:17 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
On 11/23/11 2:01 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:23:49 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/23/11 11:19 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:05:17 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The mountains are going to give the Israeli air force problems, Cain
apparently thinks.


It will present a problem if the facility they are trying to destroy
is in the middle of one of these mountains. Our penetrators are pretty
good but there is still a limit to what they can punch through.



Most if not all of the Iranian nuke facility locations are known, and
they are not in the mountains. Think Peenemünde and Nordhausen, with the
facilities in underground bunkers.


If that is really true, they are going to lose them. The open question
is how long that really sets back the program and what the blowback
will be.



I think it is worthwhile to try to prevent countries ruled by lunatics
from having or developing nuclear weapons. Bombing, sabotage and other
methods that do not involve massive military effort seem reasonable ways
to accomplish that sort of goal.

The problem, of course, is that nukes-ready-to-go are available from the
weaponry stolen from the former Soviet states and, probably, from
Pakistan. Since we don't really patrol our borders or seaports, it seems
reasonable one can be "snuck" in to create havoc. When it goes off, I
hope it isn't going off in DC.

John H[_2_] November 23rd 11 08:13 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:23:49 -0500, X ` Man wrote:

On 11/23/11 11:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:05:17 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The mountains are going to give the Israeli air force problems, Cain
apparently thinks.



It will present a problem if the facility they are trying to destroy
is in the middle of one of these mountains. Our penetrators are pretty
good but there is still a limit to what they can punch through.



Most if not all of the Iranian nuke facility locations are known, and
they are not in the mountains. Think Peenemünde and Nordhausen, with the
facilities in underground bunkers.


Harry, you should be working for the CIA. You obviously know more about Iran's nuclear program than
they do.

X ` Man[_3_] November 23rd 11 08:17 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
On 11/23/11 3:13 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:23:49 -0500, X ` wrote:

On 11/23/11 11:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:05:17 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The mountains are going to give the Israeli air force problems, Cain
apparently thinks.


It will present a problem if the facility they are trying to destroy
is in the middle of one of these mountains. Our penetrators are pretty
good but there is still a limit to what they can punch through.



Most if not all of the Iranian nuke facility locations are known, and
they are not in the mountains. Think Peenemünde and Nordhausen, with the
facilities in underground bunkers.


Harry, you should be working for the CIA. You obviously know more about Iran's nuclear program than
they do.



Unfortunately, that wouldn't surprise me. Too much spent on technology
and not enough spent on hiring bright liberal arts graduates.

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http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug

John H[_2_] November 23rd 11 08:36 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:17:22 -0500, X ` Man wrote:

On 11/23/11 2:01 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:23:49 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/23/11 11:19 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:05:17 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The mountains are going to give the Israeli air force problems, Cain
apparently thinks.


It will present a problem if the facility they are trying to destroy
is in the middle of one of these mountains. Our penetrators are pretty
good but there is still a limit to what they can punch through.


Most if not all of the Iranian nuke facility locations are known, and
they are not in the mountains. Think Peenemünde and Nordhausen, with the
facilities in underground bunkers.


If that is really true, they are going to lose them. The open question
is how long that really sets back the program and what the blowback
will be.



I think it is worthwhile to try to prevent countries ruled by lunatics
from having or developing nuclear weapons. Bombing, sabotage and other
methods that do not involve massive military effort seem reasonable ways
to accomplish that sort of goal.

The problem, of course, is that nukes-ready-to-go are available from the
weaponry stolen from the former Soviet states and, probably, from
Pakistan. Since we don't really patrol our borders or seaports, it seems
reasonable one can be "snuck" in to create havoc. When it goes off, I
hope it isn't going off in DC.


Adding a few million union jobs to patrol borders and seaports wouldn't stop a small nuke from
entering the country. I could carry a SADM in my little Key West and set it off under the Memorial
Bridge. Wouldn't have to be in a container on a ship. Of course, we wouldn't expect Pelosi, et al,
who want to add millions of 'port inspectors' to understand that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...ition_Munition

X ` Man[_3_] November 23rd 11 08:39 PM

Funniest thing on TV tonight...
 
On 11/23/11 3:36 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:17:22 -0500, X ` wrote:

On 11/23/11 2:01 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:23:49 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/23/11 11:19 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 08:05:17 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

The mountains are going to give the Israeli air force problems, Cain
apparently thinks.


It will present a problem if the facility they are trying to destroy
is in the middle of one of these mountains. Our penetrators are pretty
good but there is still a limit to what they can punch through.


Most if not all of the Iranian nuke facility locations are known, and
they are not in the mountains. Think Peenemünde and Nordhausen, with the
facilities in underground bunkers.

If that is really true, they are going to lose them. The open question
is how long that really sets back the program and what the blowback
will be.



I think it is worthwhile to try to prevent countries ruled by lunatics
from having or developing nuclear weapons. Bombing, sabotage and other
methods that do not involve massive military effort seem reasonable ways
to accomplish that sort of goal.

The problem, of course, is that nukes-ready-to-go are available from the
weaponry stolen from the former Soviet states and, probably, from
Pakistan. Since we don't really patrol our borders or seaports, it seems
reasonable one can be "snuck" in to create havoc. When it goes off, I
hope it isn't going off in DC.


Adding a few million union jobs to patrol borders and seaports wouldn't stop a small nuke from
entering the country. I could carry a SADM in my little Key West and set it off under the Memorial
Bridge. Wouldn't have to be in a container on a ship. Of course, we wouldn't expect Pelosi, et al,
who want to add millions of 'port inspectors' to understand that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...ition_Munition



Ahh...the GOP approach: let's not do anything because...someone might
get a job.

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http://flickr.com/gp/hakr/8272ug


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