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X ` Man[_3_] November 1st 11 02:55 PM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...olamere-ponzi/

Exclusive: Romney Family Investment Group Partnered With Alleged
Perpetrators Of $8 Billion Ponzi Scheme

By Lee Fang on Nov 1, 2011 at 9:30 am

Mitt Romney and his son Tagg Romney. Tagg is the managing partner to
Solamere Capital, a firm that invested in a new company employing
brokers accused of taking part in the Allen Stanford Ponzi scheme.
Mitt Romney, his son Tagg, and Romney’s chief fundraiser, Spencer Zwick,
have extensive financial and political ties to three men who allegedly
participated in an $8.5 billion Ponzi scheme. A few months after the
Ponzi scheme collapsed, a firm financed by Mitt Romney and run by his
son and chief fundraiser partnered with the three men and created a new
“wealth management business” as a subsidiary.

In an exclusive interview with ThinkProgress, Tagg Romney confirmed
their business relationship, but falsely claimed that the men were
cleared of any wrongdoing associated with the Ponzi scheme. Tagg Romney
told ThinkProgress that his three partners collected about $15,000 from
their involvement in the Ponzi scheme. Court documents obtained by
ThinkProgress show that the legal proceedings are ongoing and the men
made over $1.6 million selling fraudulent CDs to investors.

The Ponzi Scheme

In 2009, prosecutors announced charges against the Stanford Financial
Group, which managed a portfolio of $8.5 billion, for running a
“massive, ongoing fraud” against its investors. The Ponzi scheme bust
was one of the largest in recent history, second only to Bernie Madoff,
who perpetrated a fraud estimated to be around $17 billion. The Stanford
Ponzi scheme wiped out the savings of thousands, including many American
retirees across the country. In Texas, 1290 people lost their retirement
savings because of the Stanford Ponzi scheme; in Louisiana, several
hundred reportedly suffered the same fate.

The Romney Business Connection

Solamere Capital, the investment company founded by Tagg Romney with
seed money from his father, Mitt Romney and other investors.
Launched in 2008 by Romney’s son Tagg and a few others, including Mitt
Romney’s chief fundraiser Spencer Zwick, Solamere Capital is a “fund of
funds,” meaning that it primarily invests in other investment companies,
like private equity groups.

Mitt Romney himself made a $10 million initial seed investment in
Solamere Capital and his personal financial disclosure forms reveal that
he has received between $100,000 and $1 million in returns from his
stake in Solamere. Romney has come under fire for refusing to release
his tax returns, which would likely reveal additional details about his
financial relationship with Solamere Capital.

Canuck57[_9_] November 1st 11 03:19 PM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
On 01/11/2011 8:55 AM, X ` Man wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...olamere-ponzi/

Exclusive: Romney Family Investment Group Partnered With Alleged
Perpetrators Of $8 Billion Ponzi Scheme

By Lee Fang on Nov 1, 2011 at 9:30 am

Mitt Romney and his son Tagg Romney. Tagg is the managing partner to
Solamere Capital, a firm that invested in a new company employing
brokers accused of taking part in the Allen Stanford Ponzi scheme.
Mitt Romney, his son Tagg, and Romney’s chief fundraiser, Spencer Zwick,
have extensive financial and political ties to three men who allegedly
participated in an $8.5 billion Ponzi scheme. A few months after the
Ponzi scheme collapsed, a firm financed by Mitt Romney and run by his
son and chief fundraiser partnered with the three men and created a new
“wealth management business” as a subsidiary.

In an exclusive interview with ThinkProgress, Tagg Romney confirmed
their business relationship, but falsely claimed that the men were
cleared of any wrongdoing associated with the Ponzi scheme. Tagg Romney
told ThinkProgress that his three partners collected about $15,000 from
their involvement in the Ponzi scheme. Court documents obtained by
ThinkProgress show that the legal proceedings are ongoing and the men
made over $1.6 million selling fraudulent CDs to investors.

The Ponzi Scheme

In 2009, prosecutors announced charges against the Stanford Financial
Group, which managed a portfolio of $8.5 billion, for running a
“massive, ongoing fraud” against its investors. The Ponzi scheme bust
was one of the largest in recent history, second only to Bernie Madoff,
who perpetrated a fraud estimated to be around $17 billion. The Stanford
Ponzi scheme wiped out the savings of thousands, including many American
retirees across the country. In Texas, 1290 people lost their retirement
savings because of the Stanford Ponzi scheme; in Louisiana, several
hundred reportedly suffered the same fate.

The Romney Business Connection

Solamere Capital, the investment company founded by Tagg Romney with
seed money from his father, Mitt Romney and other investors.
Launched in 2008 by Romney’s son Tagg and a few others, including Mitt
Romney’s chief fundraiser Spencer Zwick, Solamere Capital is a “fund of
funds,” meaning that it primarily invests in other investment companies,
like private equity groups.

Mitt Romney himself made a $10 million initial seed investment in
Solamere Capital and his personal financial disclosure forms reveal that
he has received between $100,000 and $1 million in returns from his
stake in Solamere. Romney has come under fire for refusing to release
his tax returns, which would likely reveal additional details about his
financial relationship with Solamere Capital.


What a crap investment, invest $10M and only get back $100K or possibly
$1M? How long was he in? 2 months? Hey, if only two months I
understand. But if in for 2 years, he got ripped off. Much better
investments than that out there. Hell, I made almost 30% in 6 weeks on
a recent play on the NYSE.

Sounds more like fleabagger smear to me.

Hey, how come your not pushing on Cain for his two (or more) women
issues that have ore substance? A little anti-white racism from harryk?

Or perhaps 0bama on Solyndra and others.

While Romney is better than 0bama, can't say he hits my top three.

Trump, Bachmann, Rand Paul, Boehner are my choices, but unfortunately
not running or not much chance.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

X ` Man[_3_] November 1st 11 03:25 PM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
On 11/1/11 11:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Hey, how come your not pushing on Cain for his two (or more) women
issues that have ore substance? A little anti-white racism from harryk?


I'm hoping Cain is the GOP nominee, followed by Perry or Bachmann. The
GOP deserves an insane nominee.

Canuck57[_9_] November 1st 11 03:35 PM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
On 01/11/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 11:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Hey, how come your not pushing on Cain for his two (or more) women
issues that have ore substance? A little anti-white racism from harryk?


I'm hoping Cain is the GOP nominee, followed by Perry or Bachmann. The
GOP deserves an insane nominee.


But fact is any GOP could beat 0bama right now.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

X ` Man[_3_] November 1st 11 03:39 PM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
On 11/1/11 11:35 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 01/11/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 11:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Hey, how come your not pushing on Cain for his two (or more) women
issues that have ore substance? A little anti-white racism from harryk?


I'm hoping Cain is the GOP nominee, followed by Perry or Bachmann. The
GOP deserves an insane nominee.


But fact is any GOP could beat 0bama right now.


Bull****.

Canuck57[_9_] November 1st 11 04:10 PM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
On 01/11/2011 9:39 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 11:35 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 01/11/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 11:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Hey, how come your not pushing on Cain for his two (or more) women
issues that have ore substance? A little anti-white racism from harryk?

I'm hoping Cain is the GOP nominee, followed by Perry or Bachmann. The
GOP deserves an insane nominee.


But fact is any GOP could beat 0bama right now.


Bull****.


We find out in 12 months. Going to be good to see the $6 trillion
master debtor grand fleabag get the boot.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

X ` Man[_3_] November 1st 11 05:32 PM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
On 11/1/11 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:39:08 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/1/11 11:35 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 01/11/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 11:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Hey, how come your not pushing on Cain for his two (or more) women
issues that have ore substance? A little anti-white racism from harryk?

I'm hoping Cain is the GOP nominee, followed by Perry or Bachmann. The
GOP deserves an insane nominee.

But fact is any GOP could beat 0bama right now.


Bull****.


They had a funny poll on TV here the other day.
Obama beat all of the current GOP candidates but lost to an unnamed
GOP candidate, (likely Florida voters)


I've seen that poll...no one wants any of them.

It's hard to believe that the "finalists" so far include:

Rick Santorum, a real horse's ass and an ayatollah wannabe.
Michelle Bachmann, a certifiable crackpot.
Rick Perry, another crackpot.
Herman Cain, an unprepared, uninformed nutcase.
Ron Paul, the guy who wants to leave the sick on a gurney to die.
Mitt Romney, Mr. Give Me a Minute and I'll Change My Mind.

Canuck57[_9_] November 1st 11 09:27 PM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
On 01/11/2011 11:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:39:08 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/1/11 11:35 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 01/11/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 11:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Hey, how come your not pushing on Cain for his two (or more) women
issues that have ore substance? A little anti-white racism from
harryk?

I'm hoping Cain is the GOP nominee, followed by Perry or Bachmann. The
GOP deserves an insane nominee.

But fact is any GOP could beat 0bama right now.


Bull****.


They had a funny poll on TV here the other day.
Obama beat all of the current GOP candidates but lost to an unnamed
GOP candidate, (likely Florida voters)


I've seen that poll...no one wants any of them.

It's hard to believe that the "finalists" so far include:

Rick Santorum, a real horse's ass and an ayatollah wannabe.
Michelle Bachmann, a certifiable crackpot.
Rick Perry, another crackpot.
Herman Cain, an unprepared, uninformed nutcase.
Ron Paul, the guy who wants to leave the sick on a gurney to die.
Mitt Romney, Mr. Give Me a Minute and I'll Change My Mind.


Funny, so you will vote for Solyndra style corruption, $6 trillion more
debt for your grand kids (your kids futures are already shot), "In Debt
We Trust!", national debt-tax slavery, bailouts for everyone but the
people, corruption so deep no one knows where it starts or ends, it is
everywhere in 0bama's administration. They even lie about guns and drug
lords.

Hey, like poker, if you have the worst hand possible, pass and wait for
a better hand. 0bama's big mouth bluff isn't working any more.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

Drifter[_2_] November 1st 11 09:41 PM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
On 11/1/2011 5:27 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 01/11/2011 11:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:39:08 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/1/11 11:35 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 01/11/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 11:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Hey, how come your not pushing on Cain for his two (or more) women
issues that have ore substance? A little anti-white racism from
harryk?

I'm hoping Cain is the GOP nominee, followed by Perry or Bachmann.
The
GOP deserves an insane nominee.

But fact is any GOP could beat 0bama right now.


Bull****.

They had a funny poll on TV here the other day.
Obama beat all of the current GOP candidates but lost to an unnamed
GOP candidate, (likely Florida voters)


I've seen that poll...no one wants any of them.

It's hard to believe that the "finalists" so far include:

Rick Santorum, a real horse's ass and an ayatollah wannabe.
Michelle Bachmann, a certifiable crackpot.
Rick Perry, another crackpot.
Herman Cain, an unprepared, uninformed nutcase.
Ron Paul, the guy who wants to leave the sick on a gurney to die.
Mitt Romney, Mr. Give Me a Minute and I'll Change My Mind.


Funny, so you will vote for Solyndra style corruption, $6 trillion more
debt for your grand kids (your kids futures are already shot), "In Debt
We Trust!", national debt-tax slavery, bailouts for everyone but the
people, corruption so deep no one knows where it starts or ends, it is
everywhere in 0bama's administration. They even lie about guns and drug
lords.

Hey, like poker, if you have the worst hand possible, pass and wait for
a better hand. 0bama's big mouth bluff isn't working any more.


How clean is Romney as opposed to lets see,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
O/bama, for instance?

--
1-20-13 The end of an error

Canuck57[_9_] November 2nd 11 03:12 AM

Romney Squeaky, But Not Clean?
 
On 01/11/2011 3:41 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 11/1/2011 5:27 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 01/11/2011 11:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 1:15 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:39:08 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/1/11 11:35 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 01/11/2011 9:25 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 11:19 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Hey, how come your not pushing on Cain for his two (or more) women
issues that have ore substance? A little anti-white racism from
harryk?

I'm hoping Cain is the GOP nominee, followed by Perry or Bachmann.
The
GOP deserves an insane nominee.

But fact is any GOP could beat 0bama right now.


Bull****.

They had a funny poll on TV here the other day.
Obama beat all of the current GOP candidates but lost to an unnamed
GOP candidate, (likely Florida voters)


I've seen that poll...no one wants any of them.

It's hard to believe that the "finalists" so far include:

Rick Santorum, a real horse's ass and an ayatollah wannabe.
Michelle Bachmann, a certifiable crackpot.
Rick Perry, another crackpot.
Herman Cain, an unprepared, uninformed nutcase.
Ron Paul, the guy who wants to leave the sick on a gurney to die.
Mitt Romney, Mr. Give Me a Minute and I'll Change My Mind.


Funny, so you will vote for Solyndra style corruption, $6 trillion more
debt for your grand kids (your kids futures are already shot), "In Debt
We Trust!", national debt-tax slavery, bailouts for everyone but the
people, corruption so deep no one knows where it starts or ends, it is
everywhere in 0bama's administration. They even lie about guns and drug
lords.

Hey, like poker, if you have the worst hand possible, pass and wait for
a better hand. 0bama's big mouth bluff isn't working any more.


How clean is Romney as opposed to lets see,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
O/bama, for instance?


Will be $6 trillion in debt by Nov-2012.... Fact is, reshuffle before
you have to sell the Whitehouse to China.


--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.


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