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jps November 1st 11 02:14 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.

“We have a legitimate complaint that is supported by a majority of the
American people that there is too much corruption in government,” said
one protester, Buck Gorrell, in a statement. “We have a right to
assemble to address those complaints. What more appropriate public
space is there in Tennessee for that purpose than Legislative Plaza?
The state government is imposing arbitrary barriers to our rights
under the Constitution.”

The “Occupy Nashville” protesters defied the new rules, leading to
arrests on Friday and Saturday mornings. The 50 people arrested,
however, were released after Night Court Magistrate Tom Nelson refused
to sign off on the arrest warrants.

The lawsuit (PDF) alleges that state illegally revised the rules
controlling Legislative Plaza by fiat in secret and without notice.
The complaint also claims the state arrested protesters without
probable cause and due process.

Tennessee did not oppose the motion for a temporary restraining order,
which halts enforcement of the rules until a preliminary injunction
hearing scheduled for November 21.

“We hope the fact that the State did not contest the temporary
restraining order means that it is recommitting itself to safeguarding
— not thwarting — public political expression,” said Hedy Weinberg,
ACLU-TN Executive Director.

Canuck57[_9_] November 1st 11 02:28 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...


Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

Lil Abner November 1st 11 02:31 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 10/31/2011 10:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.

“We have a legitimate complaint that is supported by a majority of the
American people that there is too much corruption in government,” said
one protester, Buck Gorrell, in a statement. “We have a right to
assemble to address those complaints. What more appropriate public
space is there in Tennessee for that purpose than Legislative Plaza?
The state government is imposing arbitrary barriers to our rights
under the Constitution.”

The “Occupy Nashville” protesters defied the new rules, leading to
arrests on Friday and Saturday mornings. The 50 people arrested,
however, were released after Night Court Magistrate Tom Nelson refused
to sign off on the arrest warrants.

The lawsuit (PDF) alleges that state illegally revised the rules
controlling Legislative Plaza by fiat in secret and without notice.
The complaint also claims the state arrested protesters without
probable cause and due process.

Tennessee did not oppose the motion for a temporary restraining order,
which halts enforcement of the rules until a preliminary injunction
hearing scheduled for November 21.

“We hope the fact that the State did not contest the temporary
restraining order means that it is recommitting itself to safeguarding
— not thwarting — public political expression,” said Hedy Weinberg,
ACLU-TN Executive Director.

He did his job. I totally agree with him. These people did not violate
the Law. His job is judicial safety valve to prevent overzealous
government. I take no position on the issue other than that.
You are not talking about political appointees determined to push their
agenda.
You better than God that you have local Judges and Law Enforcement.
They are you.
All you are saying is that you have a bias studied or not agaains their
protests. Your protests are allowed. So are theirs.

BAR[_2_] November 1st 11 02:43 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
In article ,
says...

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...


Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?


Who is John Gault.

X ` Man[_3_] November 1st 11 10:15 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 10/31/11 10:43 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...


Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?


Who is John Gault.


If you had read the book, you'd know it was Galt, not Gault.

X ` Man November 1st 11 11:54 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/1/11 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

We probably have a better test case going on in Ft Myers. There is a
long standing law against camping in the park and pretty much anywhere
but a designated (zoned) camp ground within the city. You also need a
permit to do much more than visit the park and it closes at night.

It is going to be interesting when they try to make the case that
"camping" is "speech". If the protesters win, the result might be
chilling. It would say that if you have something to gripe about, you
can camp anywhere you want.

It does make me wonder how long these people would last in Lafayette
Park, right outside Obama's front door, in DC.


There are almost always demonstrators and protestors in that area, no
matter who is president. Some of the demonstrators are really wigged
out, though, with signs indicating their displeasure over the Soviet
domination of eastern Europe, even though that's been over for some time.

DC police, for the most part, are pretty tolerant of demonstrators. We
get lots of demonstrations and marches here.

X ` Man[_3_] November 1st 11 05:10 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/1/11 1:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:54:24 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 11/1/11 12:50 AM,
wrote:

It does make me wonder how long these people would last in Lafayette
Park, right outside Obama's front door, in DC.


There are almost always demonstrators and protestors in that area, no
matter who is president. Some of the demonstrators are really wigged
out, though, with signs indicating their displeasure over the Soviet
domination of eastern Europe, even though that's been over for some time.

DC police, for the most part, are pretty tolerant of demonstrators. We
get lots of demonstrations and marches here.


I went to school on the 1700 block of G street. I know all about the
demonstrators in front of the white house but I guarantee you, if you
pitch a tent and refuse to move, you will be in a wagon. The rule in
front of the white house is you have to keep moving.



It was a lot easier before Bush and 9-11 and Bush's fake war on terrorism.

jps November 1st 11 06:51 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:15:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 10/31/11 10:43 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?


Who is John Gault.


If you had read the book, you'd know it was Galt, not Gault.


Supply siders who haven't a ****ing clue from whence they came.

Clueless, low information voter.

X ` Man[_3_] November 1st 11 07:12 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/1/11 2:51 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:15:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 10/31/11 10:43 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?

Who is John Gault.


If you had read the book, you'd know it was Galt, not Gault.


Supply siders who haven't a ****ing clue from whence they came.

Clueless, low information voter.



Their motto:

"No need to read the book if
you read the bumpersticker."

Ms. Rand's books were all the rage at the
Susan S. Sheridan Junior High School.



John H[_2_] November 1st 11 08:37 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, jps wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.


Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!

John H[_2_] November 1st 11 08:39 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:50:27 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, jps wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

We probably have a better test case going on in Ft Myers. There is a
long standing law against camping in the park and pretty much anywhere
but a designated (zoned) camp ground within the city. You also need a
permit to do much more than visit the park and it closes at night.

It is going to be interesting when they try to make the case that
"camping" is "speech". If the protesters win, the result might be
chilling. It would say that if you have something to gripe about, you
can camp anywhere you want.

It does make me wonder how long these people would last in Lafayette
Park, right outside Obama's front door, in DC.


And I suppose I would be allowed to camp at Lake Anna State Park if I have a gripe or two.

Sounds good to me!

John H[_2_] November 1st 11 08:41 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:08:19 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:54:24 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/1/11 12:50 AM,
wrote:

It does make me wonder how long these people would last in Lafayette
Park, right outside Obama's front door, in DC.


There are almost always demonstrators and protestors in that area, no
matter who is president. Some of the demonstrators are really wigged
out, though, with signs indicating their displeasure over the Soviet
domination of eastern Europe, even though that's been over for some time.

DC police, for the most part, are pretty tolerant of demonstrators. We
get lots of demonstrations and marches here.


I went to school on the 1700 block of G street. I know all about the
demonstrators in front of the white house but I guarantee you, if you
pitch a tent and refuse to move, you will be in a wagon. The rule in
front of the white house is you have to keep moving.


And the rule prohibiting tents there should apply in any of the non-camping public parks.

X ` Man[_3_] November 1st 11 08:42 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/1/11 4:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.


Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!


You would have been happy as an Aryan in Germany between 1935 and 1945...

Drifter[_2_] November 1st 11 09:29 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/1/2011 1:10 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 1:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:54:24 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 11/1/11 12:50 AM,
wrote:

It does make me wonder how long these people would last in Lafayette
Park, right outside Obama's front door, in DC.


There are almost always demonstrators and protestors in that area, no
matter who is president. Some of the demonstrators are really wigged
out, though, with signs indicating their displeasure over the Soviet
domination of eastern Europe, even though that's been over for some
time.

DC police, for the most part, are pretty tolerant of demonstrators. We
get lots of demonstrations and marches here.


I went to school on the 1700 block of G street. I know all about the
demonstrators in front of the white house but I guarantee you, if you
pitch a tent and refuse to move, you will be in a wagon. The rule in
front of the white house is you have to keep moving.



It was a lot easier before Bush and 9-11 and Bush's fake war on terrorism.


Not to worry. Bab Bam is going to change things for you.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error

Drifter[_2_] November 1st 11 09:38 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/1/2011 4:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.


Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!


A miliun dollas? I supose there goin ta ask there parunts to post da
bond, eh?
By the way, Have you heard specifically, what they are protesting?

--
1-20-13 The end of an error

BAR[_2_] November 1st 11 11:02 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:15:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 10/31/11 10:43 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,

says...

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?

Who is John Gault.


If you had read the book, you'd know it was Galt, not Gault.


Supply siders who haven't a ****ing clue from whence they came.

Clueless, low information voter.


Glad to see the two of you wasting your time reading my drivel.



bpuharic November 1st 11 11:03 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:28:24 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...


Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?


the productive people..ie the middle class...already pay the taxes.

the rich...beloved of the right...pay no taxes

bpuharic November 1st 11 11:04 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:43:23 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...


Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?


Who is John Gault.


an idiot invented by the moron ayn rand, who wrote fairy tales for
right wing children

X ` Man[_3_] November 1st 11 11:26 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/1/11 7:02 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:15:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 10/31/11 10:43 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,

says...

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?

Who is John Gault.

If you had read the book, you'd know it was Galt, not Gault.


Supply siders who haven't a ****ing clue from whence they came.

Clueless, low information voter.


Glad to see the two of you wasting your time reading my drivel.



Atlas Shrugged is entirely too long, complex and dull a book for an
ex-marine who was posted stateside to read.

You seem to be the designated fill-in for Ingersoll, whose house was
damaged in the storm, and his now-obvious sockpuppet, iLoogy the
"non-boaterer."


Honey Badger[_13_] November 2nd 11 12:51 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:28:24 -0600,
wrote:

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:
Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?


the productive people..ie the middle class...already pay the taxes.

the rich...beloved of the right...pay no taxes


Can you prove that? It's insane!

-HB (As seen on TV!)

X ` Man[_3_] November 2nd 11 01:23 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/1/11 9:01 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:37:50 -0400, John
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.


Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!


They have the million dollar liability insurance thing in Ft Myers
too. (blame lawyers for that)
It is actually pretty cheap, considering. I think it was a couple
hundred a week or so according to the news here.
When you think about all the bad things that could happen, it sounds
like a bargain.


It's too bad ordinary citizens can't force the financial services
industry and corporations to cough up billions for ruining the economy
of this country.

North Star November 2nd 11 01:45 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On Nov 1, 5:42*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/1/11 4:37 PM, John H wrote:





On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, *wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...


Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).


“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”


The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.


But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.


Those rules make damn good sense.


Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!


You would have been happy as an Aryan in Germany between 1935 and 1945...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Are you sure he wasn't?

Canuck57[_9_] November 2nd 11 03:03 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 01/11/2011 5:03 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:28:24 -0600,
wrote:

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...


Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?


the productive people..ie the middle class...already pay the taxes.

the rich...beloved of the right...pay no taxes


You only think that because you have never invested in yourself to get a
good job and saved to become "rich".

Just a homey couch slug with a mouth waiting for a handout.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] November 2nd 11 03:07 AM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 01/11/2011 7:23 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/1/11 9:01 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:37:50 -0400, John
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.

Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!


They have the million dollar liability insurance thing in Ft Myers
too. (blame lawyers for that)
It is actually pretty cheap, considering. I think it was a couple
hundred a week or so according to the news here.
When you think about all the bad things that could happen, it sounds
like a bargain.


It's too bad ordinary citizens can't force the financial services
industry and corporations to cough up billions for ruining the economy
of this country.


Funny, your so low you bite the hand that feeds you while voting for the
corruption that keeps you down.

You are pathetic. Now that bpubharic is back out of jail you should ask
it for a date.
--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

iBoaterer[_2_] November 2nd 11 12:46 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:50:27 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, jps wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted ?Occupy Nashville? demonstrators? ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

?The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,? said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. ?Today?s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators? free speech rights.?

We probably have a better test case going on in Ft Myers. There is a
long standing law against camping in the park and pretty much anywhere
but a designated (zoned) camp ground within the city. You also need a
permit to do much more than visit the park and it closes at night.

It is going to be interesting when they try to make the case that
"camping" is "speech". If the protesters win, the result might be
chilling. It would say that if you have something to gripe about, you
can camp anywhere you want.

It does make me wonder how long these people would last in Lafayette
Park, right outside Obama's front door, in DC.


And I suppose I would be allowed to camp at Lake Anna State Park if I have a gripe or two.

Sounds good to me!


So you like the jackboot Nazi type of government, huh?

iBoaterer[_2_] November 2nd 11 12:50 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
In article 8a33ea9c-7074-4588-8ac5-dbcd181e2913
@g1g2000vbd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 1, 5:42*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/1/11 4:37 PM, John H wrote:





On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, *wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...


Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted ?Occupy Nashville? demonstrators? ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).


?The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,? said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. ?Today?s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators? free speech rights.?


The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.


But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.


Those rules make damn good sense.


Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!


You would have been happy as an Aryan in Germany between 1935 and 1945...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Are you sure he wasn't?


That's a very stupid question, Suckling Don. Hey, I notice after I've
found Harry's little consulting company and therefore can see if his
clients might have some services I may need that you two calmed right
down! I wonder if I talk to them about our buddy Harry if I'd get a
discount on services??

iBoaterer[_2_] November 2nd 11 12:55 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
In article , dump-on-
says...

On 11/1/11 7:02 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:15:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 10/31/11 10:43 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,

says...

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?

Who is John Gault.

If you had read the book, you'd know it was Galt, not Gault.

Supply siders who haven't a ****ing clue from whence they came.

Clueless, low information voter.


Glad to see the two of you wasting your time reading my drivel.



Atlas Shrugged is entirely too long, complex and dull a book for an
ex-marine who was posted stateside to read.

You seem to be the designated fill-in for Ingersoll, whose house was
damaged in the storm, and his now-obvious sockpuppet, iLoogy the
"non-boaterer."


Hey, Harry, where did you get the idea that I'm a non-boater? And where
did you get the idea that I'm loogy?

Drifter[_2_] November 2nd 11 01:00 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/2/2011 8:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , dump-on-
says...

On 11/1/11 7:02 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:15:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 10/31/11 10:43 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,

says...

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?

Who is John Gault.

If you had read the book, you'd know it was Galt, not Gault.

Supply siders who haven't a ****ing clue from whence they came.

Clueless, low information voter.

Glad to see the two of you wasting your time reading my drivel.



Atlas Shrugged is entirely too long, complex and dull a book for an
ex-marine who was posted stateside to read.

You seem to be the designated fill-in for Ingersoll, whose house was
damaged in the storm, and his now-obvious sockpuppet, iLoogy the
"non-boaterer."


Hey, Harry, where did you get the idea that I'm a non-boater? And where
did you get the idea that I'm loogy?


He's fishing for a confession. Keep him guessing. He isn't all that bright.

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John H[_2_] November 2nd 11 09:33 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:38:30 -0400, Drifter wrote:

On 11/1/2011 4:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.


Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!


A miliun dollas? I supose there goin ta ask there parunts to post da
bond, eh?
By the way, Have you heard specifically, what they are protesting?


The government. I'm speaking of the one headed by BamBam.

Drifter[_2_] November 2nd 11 09:42 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/2/2011 5:33 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:38:30 -0400, wrote:

On 11/1/2011 4:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.

Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!


A miliun dollas? I supose there goin ta ask there parunts to post da
bond, eh?
By the way, Have you heard specifically, what they are protesting?


The government. I'm speaking of the one headed by BamBam.


Bam who?

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Canuck57[_9_] November 2nd 11 10:15 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 02/11/2011 3:42 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 11/2/2011 5:33 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:38:30 -0400, wrote:

On 11/1/2011 4:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted “Occupy Nashville” demonstrators’ ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

“The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,” said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. “Today’s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators’ free speech rights.”

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.

Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!

A miliun dollas? I supose there goin ta ask there parunts to post da
bond, eh?
By the way, Have you heard specifically, what they are protesting?


The government. I'm speaking of the one headed by BamBam.


Bam who?


Mr Blow America's Money, 0bama.


--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

iBoaterer[_2_] November 3rd 11 12:52 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:38:30 -0400, Drifter wrote:

On 11/1/2011 4:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted ?Occupy Nashville? demonstrators? ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

?The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,? said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. ?Today?s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators? free speech rights.?

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.

Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!


A miliun dollas? I supose there goin ta ask there parunts to post da
bond, eh?
By the way, Have you heard specifically, what they are protesting?


The government. I'm speaking of the one headed by BamBam.


John's so narrow minded and one sided that he can't bring himself to
spell Obama correctly. Notice you never heard him call Bush any
demeaning nicknames.

Drifter[_2_] November 3rd 11 01:48 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/3/2011 8:52 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:38:30 -0400, wrote:

On 11/1/2011 4:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted ?Occupy Nashville? demonstrators? ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

?The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,? said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. ?Today?s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators? free speech rights.?

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.

Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!

A miliun dollas? I supose there goin ta ask there parunts to post da
bond, eh?
By the way, Have you heard specifically, what they are protesting?


The government. I'm speaking of the one headed by BamBam.


John's so narrow minded and one sided that he can't bring himself to
spell Obama correctly. Notice you never heard him call Bush any
demeaning nicknames.


Often rulers and dictators are given cute nick names to humanize them.
Don't you like "bam bam"?

--
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Canuck57[_9_] November 3rd 11 04:11 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 03/11/2011 6:52 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:38:30 -0400, wrote:

On 11/1/2011 4:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:14:04 -0700, wrote:


Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Wonder if that'll filter up to the SCOTUS.


A federal judge Monday afternoon ordered Tennessee to stop enforcing
new rules that restricted ?Occupy Nashville? demonstrators? ability to
protest in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties
Union of Tennessee (ACLU-TN).

?The state cannot arbitrarily create restrictive policies just because
it does not like how people are using a public space,? said ACLU-TN
Legal Director Tricia Herzfeld. ?Today?s decision is the first step in
restoring demonstrators? free speech rights.?

The protesters had been camped at Legislative Plaza in downtown
Nashville to protest the economic and political consolidation of power
since October 9.

But on October 27, Tennessee enacted new rules without any public
review process that eliminated their right to gather after 4:00 p.m.
and implemented a 10:00 pm curfew on the plaza. The state also
required protesters to pay use and security fees and to obtain
$1,000,000 in liability insurance coverage prior to engaging in any
assembly activity.

Those rules make damn good sense.

Shouldn't be any bitchin' about 'em either!

A miliun dollas? I supose there goin ta ask there parunts to post da
bond, eh?
By the way, Have you heard specifically, what they are protesting?


The government. I'm speaking of the one headed by BamBam.


John's so narrow minded and one sided that he can't bring himself to
spell Obama correctly. Notice you never heard him call Bush any
demeaning nicknames.


0bama (zero-bama). All mouth, nothing but debt for results.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

Canuck57[_9_] November 5th 11 04:46 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 05/11/2011 10:19 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:03:41 -0600,
wrote:

On 01/11/2011 5:03 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:28:24 -0600,
wrote:

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?

the productive people..ie the middle class...already pay the taxes.

the rich...beloved of the right...pay no taxes


You only think that because you have never invested in yourself to get a
good job and saved to become "rich".

Just a homey couch slug with a mouth waiting for a handout.


Lame insults and grade-school name-calling - the trademarks of a true
liberal.


Never said the liberals like the truth.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

jps November 5th 11 05:58 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:19:54 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:28:24 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...


Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?


Lame insults and grade-school name-calling - the trademarks of a true
liberal.


Are you drunk or do you favor non-sequiturs over sense?

Drifter[_2_] November 5th 11 06:03 PM

Activist judge in Nashville
 
On 11/5/2011 1:58 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:19:54 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:28:24 -0600,
wrote:

On 31/10/2011 8:14 PM, jps wrote:

Looks like some judges may still be interested in protecting people's
constitutional rights...

Maybe, maybe not.

What if productive people withheld income tax from DC in peaceful
protest. What then?

Would fleabaggers support that?


Lame insults and grade-school name-calling - the trademarks of a true
liberal.


Are you drunk or do you favor non-sequiturs over sense?


Careful now. That's your girlfriend Plume you're talking to.

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1-20-13 The end of an error


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