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The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney
has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? |
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On 10/27/2011 9:49 AM, North Star wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? You are on the internet all day long, why not do a google and find one. |
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On 10/27/2011 11:48 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/27/2011 11:21 AM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Is he shimming it correctly? If it is not shimmed right the gear jams in the flywheel and burns up the starter.He could also have a (ring gear?) chewed up on the flywheel. Old style Starters should be a dime a dozen for that engine. Greg nailed it... Oh and nice try spelling "originally" Bonnie. Aren't you the group spelling Ferret? Could you be any more of an idiot? I doubt it... snerk |
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On 10/27/11 11:51 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/27/2011 11:48 AM, Drifter wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:21 AM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Is he shimming it correctly? If it is not shimmed right the gear jams in the flywheel and burns up the starter.He could also have a (ring gear?) chewed up on the flywheel. Old style Starters should be a dime a dozen for that engine. Greg nailed it... Oh and nice try spelling "originally" Bonnie. Aren't you the group spelling Ferret? Could you be any more of an idiot? I doubt it... snerk I hear there's a new show on which you can earn a few bucks as a contestant, snotty. "Dancing with the Idiots" |
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On Oct 27, 12:56*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote: On 10/27/11 11:51 AM, JustWait wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:48 AM, Drifter wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:21 AM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Is he shimming it correctly? If it is not shimmed right the gear jams in the flywheel and burns up the starter.He could also have a (ring gear?) chewed up on the flywheel. Old style Starters should be a dime a dozen for that engine. Greg nailed it... Oh and nice try spelling "originally" Bonnie. Aren't you the group spelling Ferret? Could you be any more of an idiot? I doubt it... snerk I hear there's a new show on which you can earn a few bucks as a contestant, snotty. "Dancing with the Idiots"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ...or dancing with the midgets. |
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In article 9d934a3a-b70c-4dfc-9b39-
, says... On Oct 27, 12:56*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 10/27/11 11:51 AM, JustWait wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:48 AM, Drifter wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:21 AM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Is he shimming it correctly? If it is not shimmed right the gear jams in the flywheel and burns up the starter.He could also have a (ring gear?) chewed up on the flywheel. Old style Starters should be a dime a dozen for that engine. Greg nailed it... Oh and nice try spelling "originally" Bonnie. Aren't you the group spelling Ferret? Could you be any more of an idiot? I doubt it... snerk I hear there's a new show on which you can earn a few bucks as a contestant, snotty. "Dancing with the Idiots"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ..or dancing with the midgets. And Harry's personal butt plug, Suckling Don the Coward, instantly sticks his nose up Harry's fat ass.... |
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On 10/27/11 12:30 PM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 27, 12:56 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 10/27/11 11:51 AM, JustWait wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:48 AM, Drifter wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:21 AM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Is he shimming it correctly? If it is not shimmed right the gear jams in the flywheel and burns up the starter.He could also have a (ring gear?) chewed up on the flywheel. Old style Starters should be a dime a dozen for that engine. Greg nailed it... Oh and nice try spelling "originally" Bonnie. Aren't you the group spelling Ferret? Could you be any more of an idiot? I doubt it...snerk I hear there's a new show on which you can earn a few bucks as a contestant, snotty. "Dancing with the Idiots"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ..or dancing with the midgets. Way back when, 35 something years ago, I somehow got the ad agency for which I was working at that time hired as the Ad & PR agency for Ringling Brothers Barnum & Bailey Circus for its DC area performances. There was hardly a soul on the Feld family headquarters management team I could stand, but all the performers I met were really terrific people, including a circus midget named "Michu." His real name was Mihaly Meszaros. I'll never forget that name. He was billed as the shortest man in the world. Like many of the performers, he lived on the circus train. Part of my assignment was to arrange media interview for the acts. I had a couple lined up for Michu early in the morning, so I went with the TV crews to the train. No Michu. I got on the train and was directed to his compartment. Found it. Found Michu in bed with two circus showgirls. Hell, he was 3' tall at the most. The girls were tall, typical showgals. Turned out he was quite the drinker and quite the stud. So, don't insult my memories of a true midget by comparing Snotty to one. Michu was a real man. Snotty is a paranoid pimple. |
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On 10/27/2011 12:45 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article9d934a3a-b70c-4dfc-9b39- , says... On Oct 27, 12:56 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 10/27/11 11:51 AM, JustWait wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:48 AM, Drifter wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:21 AM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Is he shimming it correctly? If it is not shimmed right the gear jams in the flywheel and burns up the starter.He could also have a (ring gear?) chewed up on the flywheel. Old style Starters should be a dime a dozen for that engine. Greg nailed it... Oh and nice try spelling "originally" Bonnie. Aren't you the group spelling Ferret? Could you be any more of an idiot? I doubt it...snerk I hear there's a new show on which you can earn a few bucks as a contestant, snotty. "Dancing with the Idiots"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ..or dancing with the midgets. And Harry's personal butt plug, Suckling Don the Coward, instantly sticks his nose up Harry's fat ass.... They are the two most bigoted posters in rec.boats history... and over height, give me a break. We have seen pictures of Don, I dare say I am happy to look more like a small man, than a large bowling pin... |
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On 10/27/11 12:58 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/27/2011 12:45 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article9d934a3a-b70c-4dfc-9b39- , says... On Oct 27, 12:56 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 10/27/11 11:51 AM, JustWait wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:48 AM, Drifter wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:21 AM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Is he shimming it correctly? If it is not shimmed right the gear jams in the flywheel and burns up the starter.He could also have a (ring gear?) chewed up on the flywheel. Old style Starters should be a dime a dozen for that engine. Greg nailed it... Oh and nice try spelling "originally" Bonnie. Aren't you the group spelling Ferret? Could you be any more of an idiot? I doubt it...snerk I hear there's a new show on which you can earn a few bucks as a contestant, snotty. "Dancing with the Idiots"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ..or dancing with the midgets. And Harry's personal butt plug, Suckling Don the Coward, instantly sticks his nose up Harry's fat ass.... They are the two most bigoted posters in rec.boats history... and over height, give me a break. We have seen pictures of Don, I dare say I am happy to look more like a small man, than a large bowling pin... Don can go to the hospital and his bill there will be paid either upon his discharge or shortly thereafter. I'd rather look like Don, whatever he looks like, than like you. |
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In article ,
says... On 10/27/11 12:58 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/27/2011 12:45 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article9d934a3a-b70c-4dfc-9b39- , says... On Oct 27, 12:56 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 10/27/11 11:51 AM, JustWait wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:48 AM, Drifter wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:21 AM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Is he shimming it correctly? If it is not shimmed right the gear jams in the flywheel and burns up the starter.He could also have a (ring gear?) chewed up on the flywheel. Old style Starters should be a dime a dozen for that engine. Greg nailed it... Oh and nice try spelling "originally" Bonnie. Aren't you the group spelling Ferret? Could you be any more of an idiot? I doubt it...snerk I hear there's a new show on which you can earn a few bucks as a contestant, snotty. "Dancing with the Idiots"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ..or dancing with the midgets. And Harry's personal butt plug, Suckling Don the Coward, instantly sticks his nose up Harry's fat ass.... They are the two most bigoted posters in rec.boats history... and over height, give me a break. We have seen pictures of Don, I dare say I am happy to look more like a small man, than a large bowling pin... Don can go to the hospital and his bill there will be paid either upon his discharge or shortly thereafter. I'd rather look like Don, whatever he looks like, than like you. Yes, because he "sucks off of the government teat" as you refer to it. |
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On 10/27/2011 12:45 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article9d934a3a-b70c-4dfc-9b39- , says... On Oct 27, 12:56 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 10/27/11 11:51 AM, JustWait wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:48 AM, Drifter wrote: On 10/27/2011 11:21 AM, wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is originaly from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Is he shimming it correctly? If it is not shimmed right the gear jams in the flywheel and burns up the starter.He could also have a (ring gear?) chewed up on the flywheel. Old style Starters should be a dime a dozen for that engine. Greg nailed it... Oh and nice try spelling "originally" Bonnie. Aren't you the group spelling Ferret? Could you be any more of an idiot? I doubt it...snerk I hear there's a new show on which you can earn a few bucks as a contestant, snotty. "Dancing with the Idiots"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ..or dancing with the midgets. And Harry's personal butt plug, Suckling Don the Coward, instantly sticks his nose up Harry's fat ass.... Isn't that what butt plugs do, after all. |
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On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote:
The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. |
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On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote:
On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... *what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. *"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. *Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Thanks Tim... I'll pass this along to the bricklayer. |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. |
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In article 32fe25e1-df5f-4d56-882b-
, says... On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... *what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. *"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. *Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Thanks Tim... I'll pass this along to the bricklayer. Is he a union bricklayer? If not, Harry will be ****ed at his little butt plug, Suckling Don the Coward. |
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On Oct 28, 9:48*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 32fe25e1-df5f-4d56-882b- , says... On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... *what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. *"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. *Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Thanks Tim... I'll pass this along to the bricklayer. Is he a union bricklayer? If not, Harry will be ****ed at his little butt plug, Suckling Don the Coward.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do you have to pollute every post in here..... even the sensible ones? What do the good folks at Freeman Harris think of you wasting company time spewing effulent on their computer? |
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@l19g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 28, 9:48*am, iBoaterer wrote: In article 32fe25e1-df5f-4d56-882b- , says... On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... *what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. *"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. *Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Thanks Tim... I'll pass this along to the bricklayer. Is he a union bricklayer? If not, Harry will be ****ed at his little butt plug, Suckling Don the Coward.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do you have to pollute every post in here..... even the sensible ones? What do the good folks at Freeman Harris think of you wasting company time spewing effulent on their computer? I have no idea what you are talking about, Suckling Don! Who is Freeman Harris? I only asked if the bricklayer was a union one. Is he? |
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On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote:
On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... *what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. *"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. *Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine. I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details... and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer. Thanks Don |
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On 10/28/2011 10:20 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:02 pm, wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine. I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details... and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer. Thanks Don Don, That starter you want can be found in *any* auto parts store. Probably even in Canada. Are you socialists up there so helpless or stupid that you can't go to a store and buy something without help from someone in the U S of A. |
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says... On 10/28/2011 10:20 AM, North Star wrote: On Oct 27, 9:02 pm, wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine. I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details... and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer. Thanks Don Don, That starter you want can be found in *any* auto parts store. Probably even in Canada. Are you socialists up there so helpless or stupid that you can't go to a store and buy something without help from someone in the U S of A. Not all of them are stupid, but Don sure is! |
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On Oct 28, 9:20*am, North Star wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... *what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. *"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. *Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine. I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details... and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer. Thanks * Don Here Don. Here's a better way. I looked this up on Ebay Canada- This is the same make starter I sell, only it doesn't have the conversion bolts. The bolts can be fount at any parts store. They'd be for a GM with the 4.3 V-6 Basically they're 4 inch bolts, but they're different than regular stuff, they have knurling on the shoulders. Compared to the dollar exchange and the shipping, this is really a good deal. http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Isuzu-Ca...item1e67fd7b2c |
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On 10/28/11 6:56 PM, Tim wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:20 am, North wrote: On Oct 27, 9:02 pm, wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine. I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details... and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer. Thanks Don Here Don. Here's a better way. I looked this up on Ebay Canada- This is the same make starter I sell, only it doesn't have the conversion bolts. The bolts can be fount at any parts store. They'd be for a GM with the 4.3 V-6 Basically they're 4 inch bolts, but they're different than regular stuff, they have knurling on the shoulders. Compared to the dollar exchange and the shipping, this is really a good deal. http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Isuzu-Ca...item1e67fd7b2c Good neighbor Tim. :) |
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On Oct 28, 5:56*pm, Tim wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:20*am, North Star wrote: On Oct 27, 9:02*pm, Tim wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49*am, North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... *what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. *"Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. *Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine. I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details... and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer. Thanks * Don Here Don. Here's a better way. I looked this up on Ebay Canada- *This is the same make starter I sell, only it doesn't have the conversion bolts. The bolts can be fount at any parts store. They'd be for a GM with the 4.3 V-6 *Basically they're 4 inch bolts, but they're different than regular stuff, they have knurling on the shoulders. Compared to the dollar exchange and the shipping, this is really a good deal. http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Isuzu-Ca...-Truck-Olds-Ge... OOOOOOOPS! I take that back! I thought I'd looked on Canadian ebay, but no, it's US! BUT, that'll give you an idea what to look for. |
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On Oct 28, 6:19*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:56:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Oct 28, 9:20 am, North Star wrote: On Oct 27, 9:02 pm, Tim wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North Star wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. Tim.. he wants that better version starter for his 454 engine. I'll try to send an e-mail directly to you with shipping details... and you can tell me what method of payment you prefer. Thanks Don Here Don. Here's a better way. I looked this up on Ebay Canada- *This is the same make starter I sell, only it doesn't have the conversion bolts. The bolts can be fount at any parts store. They'd be for a GM with the 4.3 V-6 *Basically they're 4 inch bolts, but they're different than regular stuff, they have knurling on the shoulders. Compared to the dollar exchange and the shipping, this is really a good deal. http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-Isuzu-Ca...-Truck-Olds-Ge... Tim, per my post: the bolt diameter is a BIG issue in starter longevity. Oh, I know, that's why i mentioned them in my post too. |
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jps wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff, however. -HB (As Seen On TV!) |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger
wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff, however. -HB (As Seen On TV!) Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta. |
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jps wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff, however. -HB (As Seen On TV!) Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta. Duties, tariff - same ****. -HB |
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On Oct 29, 1:02*am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North *wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. *There may not be a tariff, however. -HB (As Seen On TV!) Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. *I think what Tim was concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage houses can really tack on the charges. One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing $100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services charges. Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what you pay down there. |
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Calling Tim.. need help!
On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 29, 1:02 am, wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff, however. -HB (As Seen On TV!) Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage houses can really tack on the charges. Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. 18% duty plus customs charges on all sorts of stuff. One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing $100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services charges. Happen, I know. Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family" business to get the parts. Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what you pay down there. More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business. -- The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is the problem. |
Calling Tim.. need help!
On Oct 30, 2:34*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote: On Oct 29, 1:02 am, *wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger *wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North * *wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. *There may not be a tariff, however. -HB (As Seen On TV!) Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. *I think what Tim was concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage houses can really tack on the charges. Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. *18% duty plus customs charges on all sorts of stuff. One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing $100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services charges. Happen, I know. *Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family" business to get the parts. Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what you pay down there. More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business. -- The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is the problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I see some people take advantage of a service where the shipping address is a type of postal box on the US side in border towns. This works fine if you are close to the border. Closest to here is Calais, Maine... probably a 6 hour drive under good conditions. |
Calling Tim.. need help!
On 30/10/2011 12:56 PM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote: On Oct 29, 1:02 am, wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff, however. -HB (As Seen On TV!) Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage houses can really tack on the charges. Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. 18% duty plus customs charges on all sorts of stuff. One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing $100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services charges. Happen, I know. Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family" business to get the parts. Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what you pay down there. More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business. -- The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is the problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I see some people take advantage of a service where the shipping address is a type of postal box on the US side in border towns. This works fine if you are close to the border. Closest to here is Calais, Maine... probably a 6 hour drive under good conditions. I have it shipped to the in-laws in Portland and we in our family take turns visiting and load up to the max allowed on return. If we get too much, put the foreign stuff in you allotment, and NA stuff outside of the allotment and only GST is payable. In Alberta we don't have the liberal ST part. Alberta has less tax, less rats and hasn't never voted NDP for a governemnt, and hasn't elected a Liberal government since 1917. Has the liberals all ****ed when you bring up 1917. Getting pretty close to a 100 year lockout of liberal scum in Alberta. -- The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is the problem. |
Calling Tim.. need help!
On Oct 30, 4:41*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/10/2011 12:56 PM, North Star wrote: On Oct 30, 2:34 pm, *wrote: On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote: On Oct 29, 1:02 am, * *wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger * *wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North * * *wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. *This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. *Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did *something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. *There may not be a tariff, however. -HB (As Seen On TV!) Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. *I think what Tim was concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage houses can really tack on the charges. Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. *18% duty plus customs charges on all sorts of stuff. One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing $100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services charges. Happen, I know. *Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family" business to get the parts. Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what you pay down there. More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business. -- The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is the problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I see some people take advantage of a service where the shipping address is a type of postal box on the US side in border towns. This works fine if you are close to the border. *Closest to here is Calais, Maine... probably a 6 hour drive under good conditions. I have it shipped to the in-laws in Portland and we in our family take turns visiting and load up to the max allowed on return. *If we get too much, put the foreign stuff in you allotment, and NA stuff outside of the allotment and only GST is payable. *In Alberta we don't have the liberal ST part. *Alberta has less tax, less rats and hasn't never voted NDP for a governemnt, and hasn't elected a Liberal government since 1917. Has the liberals all ****ed when you bring up 1917. *Getting pretty close to a 100 year lockout of liberal scum in Alberta. -- The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is the problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It shows,believe me! |
Calling Tim.. need help!
On 10/30/2011 2:56 PM, North Star wrote:
On Oct 30, 2:34 pm, wrote: On 30/10/2011 5:05 AM, North Star wrote: On Oct 29, 1:02 am, wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:35:11 -0400, Honey Badger wrote: jps wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:02:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Oct 27, 8:49 am, North wrote: The bricklayer who's tearing down and re-building my fireplace chimney has a problem. His work truck is a 1986 Chev Silverado 2 WD with a 454 motor. He has put three starters on in the last 6 months and the current one is failing. Seems this motor isn't being made now and the locally supplied starters aren't heavy enough ... they keep getting chewed up. This truck is original from the States and that may be another reason why the proper part is hard to get. Any advice? Don,Sorry to get in on this late in the day.... what the problem is... is that the starters in that era were great for a 5.7 (350) but not powerful enough for the "Big Block" 7 and 9 liter engines. "Heat soaking" into the starter motor was enough to weaken and already stressed load and that was bad enough. Now what's going on when you say "chewed up" is, I take it the drive gear in the starter is getting burred? OK, we'll work with that. It's possible that his starter isn't fitting right to mesh with the flywheel so there's the possibility it needs shims. OR the isn't installing (or it's just plain missing) the end brace which helps to secure the starter against the block. OR... his flywheel ring gear is junk. What I'd recommend is getting a starter for a 454 made in 1996 or later. it's a little gear reduction permanent magnet starter that whips the tar out of it, AND it fits correctly, even without the end brace and will fit correctly without shimming. and they're good for 150,000 mi... The salvage yards should have an abundance of them now seeing they've been available for 15 years and are still current production. I don't know how much a new one is there, but my cost on a brand new (not a re- cap) is about 60 bucks USD. Yeah, they're really in expensive. I'd be happy to send you one, but shipping and customs would probably be pretty hefty. Here's a pic of one http://cf.mp-cdn.net/67/92/26b532276...7665afdd92.jpg The only difference in installing one is that it would require shorter mounting bolts After years of starter grief. Delco and GM finally did something right. If I can help any other way, let me know, Don. There's no customs between US and Canada for American made goods. And shipping UPS ground is cheap. Yes, Customs is involved in every shipment. There may not be a tariff, however. -HB (As Seen On TV!) Customs charges next to nothing to clear items. I think what Tim was concerned about were import duties, which do not exist with Nafta.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't haveanything shipped from the US.. but I hear the brokerage houses can really tack on the charges. Haven't ordered much from the USA have you. 18% duty plus customs charges on all sorts of stuff. One site I checked yesterday had a guy complaining of importing $100.00 of auto parts and getting hit with a $67.00 brokerage services charges. Happen, I know. Canadians extorting Canadians, he didn't use a "family" business to get the parts. Add shipping and then the HST on top of that (plus any duties if the object is made outside NAFTA) and the final cost could be double what you pay down there. More typical is about 25% unless your a "family" business. -- The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is the problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I see some people take advantage of a service where the shipping address is a type of postal box on the US side in border towns. This works fine if you are close to the border. Closest to here is Calais, Maine... probably a 6 hour drive under good conditions. Would it be quicker to go by boat? |
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