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Eric May 28th 04 09:40 PM

[Q] PFDs
 
Someone I know is seeking a new PFD...

Their perfect PFD would look like:

18 lbs floatation
two large zippered pockets in the front
a lash/clip point on the front
a night light attachment point in the upper/back shoulder area
(preferrably in the middle)
reflective material on the upper front and rear and have a large
rear pocket big enough to hold a parachute flare (I know,
not legal in the US. I'll consider permanently attaching an
accessory pack by the same manufacturer)
US or Canadian certified.
equippable with a tow belt for sea kayaking.

But, have been unable to location one that fits this exact description.
Is anyone aware of one or one that might come close?

The PFDs they have been considering a

Astral Tempo 300T
Serratus Poseidon
Extrasport retroglide sabre
Patagonia straitjacket

Anyone have any opinions?
They were specifically interested in the 300T's pocket system and fit.


Michael Daly May 28th 04 10:15 PM

[Q] PFDs
 
On 28-May-2004, (Eric) wrote:

Their perfect PFD would look like:


Oooh, look. Eric's trolling for the impossible again. Let's not
waste our time on this one, shall we.

Mike

Wilko May 28th 04 10:23 PM

[Q] PFDs
 
How about this one, the "wild water explorer leader":

http://www.wild-water.co.uk/wwbaid.html

I have used one for several years now (still have a brand new one when
this one wears out), and really like it.


Eric wrote:
Someone I know is seeking a new PFD...

Their perfect PFD would look like:

18 lbs floatation


Check

two large zippered pockets in the front


One zippered plus velcro'd, one only velcro'd.

a lash/clip point on the front


Check

a night light attachment point in the upper/back shoulder area
(preferrably in the middle)


I'd stitch that on myself.

reflective material on the upper front and rear and have a large
rear pocket big enough to hold a parachute flare (I know,
not legal in the US. I'll consider permanently attaching an
accessory pack by the same manufacturer)


Big (throwbag size) velcro'd shut pocket on the back, with reachable
from the front loop going in the pocket.

The reflective stuff I'd simply sow on myself.

US or Canadian certified.


CE certified, dunno about US or Canadian standards. :-(

equippable with a tow belt for sea kayaking.


Check

But, have been unable to location one that fits this exact description.
Is anyone aware of one or one that might come close?


Dunno if this one is close enough for you, but since you didn't mention
this brand, I'd thought I'd mention it. they have a bunch of other
models of PFD as well.

HTH

Wilko

--
Wilko van den Bergh Wilkoa t)dse(d o tnl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.
http://wilko.webzone.ru/


Eric May 28th 04 10:29 PM

[Q] PFDs
 
Wilko wrote:

How about this one, the "wild water explorer leader":

http://www.wild-water.co.uk/wwbaid.html

I have used one for several years now (still have a brand new one when
this one wears out), and really like it.


Thanks, I'll pass it on.

Brian Nystrom May 29th 04 01:24 AM

[Q] PFDs
 
Michael Daly wrote:

On 28-May-2004, (Eric) wrote:

Their perfect PFD would look like:


Oooh, look. Eric's trolling for the impossible again. Let's not
waste our time on this one, shall we.


Thanks for pointing that out; I should have figured it from the nature
of the question. I'm curious why he thinks it's illegal to carry a
parachute flare and why he would want to carry one on his back. That
sure would make layback rolls painful! Maybe he needs it for emergency
illumination when using his non-existent camera? ;-)


Eric May 29th 04 06:29 AM

[Q] PFDs
 
Michael Daly wrote:

On 28-May-2004, (Eric) wrote:

Their perfect PFD would look like:


Oooh, look. Eric's trolling for the impossible again. Let's not
waste our time on this one, shall we.


If you'd like to see the original message posted by the person I've met,
you are welcome to check out:

http://cpakayaker.com/mailman/privat...com/2004-May/0
02530.html

I believe you would need to temporarily join the CPA mailing list.
I'm sure he would be happy to receive any replies directly, otherwise, I
am perfectly willing to forward any information you might have onto him.


--
== Eric Gorr ========= http://www.ericgorr.net ========= ICQ:9293199 ===
"Therefore the considerations of the intelligent always include both
benefit and harm." - Sun Tzu
== Insults, like violence, are the last refuge of the incompetent... ===

[email protected] May 30th 04 02:26 AM

[Q] PFDs
 
Actually, Eric was posting it for me. I had posed the question on our
local kayak club list, and hadn't thought about posting it here. Eric
was helping me out.

When I was doing longer open water crossings I liked to carry the
parachute flare. Based on the theory that if it's not on you, you
don't have it, I carried one in the back pocket of my Serratus, so
that I had it if seperated from the boat.

On Sat, 29 May 2004 00:24:42 GMT, Brian Nystrom
wrote:

Michael Daly wrote:

On 28-May-2004, (Eric) wrote:

Their perfect PFD would look like:


Oooh, look. Eric's trolling for the impossible again. Let's not
waste our time on this one, shall we.


Thanks for pointing that out; I should have figured it from the nature
of the question. I'm curious why he thinks it's illegal to carry a
parachute flare and why he would want to carry one on his back. That
sure would make layback rolls painful! Maybe he needs it for emergency
illumination when using his non-existent camera? ;-)



[email protected] May 30th 04 02:26 AM

[Q] PFDs
 
Thanks. Eric passed this on to me and I'll take a look.

On Fri, 28 May 2004 23:23:54 +0200, Wilko wrote:

How about this one, the "wild water explorer leader":

http://www.wild-water.co.uk/wwbaid.html

I have used one for several years now (still have a brand new one when
this one wears out), and really like it.


Eric wrote:
Someone I know is seeking a new PFD...

Their perfect PFD would look like:

18 lbs floatation


Check

two large zippered pockets in the front


One zippered plus velcro'd, one only velcro'd.

a lash/clip point on the front


Check

a night light attachment point in the upper/back shoulder area
(preferrably in the middle)


I'd stitch that on myself.

reflective material on the upper front and rear and have a large
rear pocket big enough to hold a parachute flare (I know,
not legal in the US. I'll consider permanently attaching an
accessory pack by the same manufacturer)


Big (throwbag size) velcro'd shut pocket on the back, with reachable
from the front loop going in the pocket.

The reflective stuff I'd simply sow on myself.

US or Canadian certified.


CE certified, dunno about US or Canadian standards. :-(

equippable with a tow belt for sea kayaking.


Check

But, have been unable to location one that fits this exact description.
Is anyone aware of one or one that might come close?


Dunno if this one is close enough for you, but since you didn't mention
this brand, I'd thought I'd mention it. they have a bunch of other
models of PFD as well.

HTH

Wilko



John Caldeira May 31st 04 12:00 AM

[Q] PFDs
 
Kokatat's MsFit TOUR is close to what you're looking for:

http://www.outdoorplace.org/images/DFW_MsFits.jpg
http://www.kokatat.com/pfd.htm

No rear pocket, but it has one inside. Tow hook you'd have to add
yourself.

John

(Eric) wrote:
Someone I know is seeking a new PFD...

Their perfect PFD would look like:

18 lbs floatation
two large zippered pockets in the front
a lash/clip point on the front
a night light attachment point in the upper/back shoulder area
(preferrably in the middle)
reflective material on the upper front and rear and have a large
rear pocket big enough to hold a parachute flare (I know,
not legal in the US. I'll consider permanently attaching an
accessory pack by the same manufacturer)
US or Canadian certified.
equippable with a tow belt for sea kayaking.

But, have been unable to location one that fits this exact description.
Is anyone aware of one or one that might come close?



John Caldeira
Dallas, Texas, USA
http://www.outdoorplace.org/

Brian Nystrom May 31st 04 01:11 PM

[Q] PFDs
 
John Caldeira wrote:

Kokatat's MsFit TOUR is close to what you're looking for:

http://www.outdoorplace.org/images/DFW_MsFits.jpg
http://www.kokatat.com/pfd.htm

No rear pocket, but it has one inside. Tow hook you'd have to add
yourself.


Yeah, I really like mine. However, if he really needs 18 lbs of
floatation (why?) it comes up a bit short.



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