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North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. |
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On Oct 12, 9:54*am, iBoaterer wrote:
North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your argument.... But do twist some more... |
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On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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says... On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. Nope, you are lying. |
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says... On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778 @y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 12, 9:54 am, wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your argument.... But do twist some more... Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and they are. YOU said they weren't. You said "entertainment" period... Nope, you are lying. |
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On 10/12/2011 3:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778 @y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 12, 9:54 am, wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your argument.... But do twist some more... Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and they are. YOU said they weren't. You said "entertainment" period... Nope, you are lying. **** you, you said they were for "entertainment".. That's what we were arguing about until you realized you were wrong, then you changed your tune... |
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On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... |
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On Oct 12, 3:42*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778 @y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says.... On Oct 12, 9:54 am, *wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your argument.... But do twist some more... Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and they are. YOU said they weren't. You said "entertainment" period... Nope, you are lying. OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight: Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go look.. |
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On 10/12/11 6:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... Of course it is entertainment. Every time a black guy is put to death, tens of millions of southern white racists get a woody and terrorize the cows and sheep. They love their executions. |
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On 12/10/2011 4:28 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/12/11 6:12 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... Of course it is entertainment. Every time a black guy is put to death, tens of millions of southern white racists get a woody and terrorize the cows and sheep. They love their executions. So are you suggesting we only hang white people. Oh my, no surprise though, you are a racist. I like it simple, murder, 2 & 3 time violent losers, perpetual offenders any, any skin color, line them up. -- Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But we have big huge government we can't afford... -- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude |
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, says... On Oct 12, 3:42*pm, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778 @y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 12, 9:54 am, *wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your argument.... But do twist some more... Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and they are. YOU said they weren't. You said "entertainment" period... Nope, you are lying. OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight: Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go look.. Where did I say that executions are for entertainment? |
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says... On 10/12/2011 3:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778 @y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 12, 9:54 am, wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your argument.... But do twist some more... Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and they are. YOU said they weren't. You said "entertainment" period... Nope, you are lying. **** you, you said they were for "entertainment".. That's what we were arguing about until you realized you were wrong, then you changed your tune... Please show me the quote where I said executions were for entertainment. |
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says... On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... You are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. |
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On Oct 13, 8:58*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... You are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. snip- OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight: snip Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go look.. |
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, says... On Oct 13, 8:58*am, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... You are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. snip- OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight: snip Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go look.. Again, you are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. |
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On Oct 13, 12:15*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article a20175d8-3109-42e1-b858- , says... On Oct 13, 8:58 am, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. |
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says... On 10/13/2011 2:08 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articlef1f7c3c0-7fa3-4877-8b3a-2684da6f8238 @h22g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 13, 12:15 pm, wrote: In articlea20175d8-3109-42e1-b858- , says... On Oct 13, 8:58 am, wrote: In , says... On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... You are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. snip- OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight: snip Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go look.. Again, you are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. So, what do you call a "circus". You used the word to make a point, if you can't stand by the point, you shouldn't have made it... I called it a MEDIA circus, and it is. And I'm standing by that point. You were lying, I never said executions were for entertainment. So, a circus isn't entertainment? A MEDIA circus, learn to read. And, once again, I never said "executions are entertainment". That was a lie. |
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says... On 10/13/2011 2:06 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article3f0ca35d-00a0-49d4-80f9-8a15da027060 @d23g2000prn.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 13, 12:15 pm, wrote: In articlea20175d8-3109-42e1-b858- , says... On Oct 13, 8:58 am, wrote: In , says... On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... You are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. snip- OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight: snip Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go look.. Again, you are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. Semantics.. That's a regressive game.. Plain talk means words mean what they mean... Of course words mean what they mean. Again, I never said an execution is for entertainment. I said that executions are witnessed for a reason. Hell, back in the hanging days it was a party, people would come out of the hills to watch a hanging. OH, I get it, you were talking about 100 years ago... ok. I was talking about this history, and now the present. Again, you lied when you said that I said "executions are entertainment". |
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On 10/14/2011 9:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 10/13/2011 2:08 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articlef1f7c3c0-7fa3-4877-8b3a-2684da6f8238 @h22g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 13, 12:15 pm, wrote: In articlea20175d8-3109-42e1-b858- , says... On Oct 13, 8:58 am, wrote: In , says... On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... You are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. snip- OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight: snip Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go look.. Again, you are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. So, what do you call a "circus". You used the word to make a point, if you can't stand by the point, you shouldn't have made it... I called it a MEDIA circus, and it is. And I'm standing by that point. You were lying, I never said executions were for entertainment. So, a circus isn't entertainment? A MEDIA circus, learn to read. And, once again, I never said "executions are entertainment". That was a lie. No, it was a erroneous interpretation at best, accurate at worst... |
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says... On 10/14/2011 9:34 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/13/2011 2:08 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In articlef1f7c3c0-7fa3-4877-8b3a-2684da6f8238 @h22g2000prf.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 13, 12:15 pm, wrote: In articlea20175d8-3109-42e1-b858- , says... On Oct 13, 8:58 am, wrote: In , says... On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote: On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: North Carolina: North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room restrict the number of witnesses to 16. The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or physician of the penitentiary. The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official witnesses. Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these witnesses. Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction. If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family. If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats. The view from the witness room. Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate. Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available. Mississippi: There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest County courthouse on February 5th 1954 Texas In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the Huntsville Item. I could go on, but I think my point is made. So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims? My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it. Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse mid stream and expect not to get called on it. It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail. Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps moving the bar around till it comes full circle... You are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. snip- OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight: snip Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go look.. Again, you are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment. So, what do you call a "circus". You used the word to make a point, if you can't stand by the point, you shouldn't have made it... I called it a MEDIA circus, and it is. And I'm standing by that point. You were lying, I never said executions were for entertainment. So, a circus isn't entertainment? A MEDIA circus, learn to read. And, once again, I never said "executions are entertainment". That was a lie. No, it was a erroneous interpretation at best, accurate at worst... How is it accurate when it was NEVER said? |
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