....ain't running, he says.

Still leaves hope for my dream team of Perry-Bachmann, Perry-Palin,
Perry-O'Donnell, Perry-Cain...the GOP deserves a ticket as bat**** crazy
as it is.


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On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:46:23 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

...ain't running, he says.

Still leaves hope for my dream team of Perry-Bachmann, Perry-Palin,
Perry-O'Donnell, Perry-Cain...the GOP deserves a ticket as bat**** crazy
as it is.

Bachman's team is quitting. They realize the dream is over.

On 10/4/11 3:25 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:46:23 -0400, X `
wrote:

...ain't running, he says.

Still leaves hope for my dream team of Perry-Bachmann, Perry-Palin,
Perry-O'Donnell, Perry-Cain...the GOP deserves a ticket as bat**** crazy
as it is.

Bachman's team is quitting. They realize the dream is over.


Damn! Well, more and more it looks like Romney and someone to his right.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 10/4/11 5:37 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:46:23 -0400, X `
wrote:

...ain't running, he says.

Still leaves hope for my dream team of Perry-Bachmann, Perry-Palin,
Perry-O'Donnell, Perry-Cain...the GOP deserves a ticket as bat**** crazy
as it is.

Zakaria made an interesting observation Sunday. Perry was the only one
who signed on to a report from CSIS about infrastructure improvements,
including Obama.
Of course Perry is also not shy about spending government money to
create jobs

The problem with the democrats on this plan is they want concessions
from unions and streamlined permitting processes.
Zakaria points out that 64% of the projects that wound otherwise be
shovel ready, are hung up in environmental permit troubles.

The unions are blocking anyone who has not done time in grade in the
particular union that runs a job (Readaid union dues for the
required number of years.) from working and that is about 90% of the
unemployed.

Unions don't run construction jobs. General contractors do. The general
selects the subs.

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On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:37:16 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:46:23 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

...ain't running, he says.

Still leaves hope for my dream team of Perry-Bachmann, Perry-Palin,
Perry-O'Donnell, Perry-Cain...the GOP deserves a ticket as bat**** crazy
as it is.

Zakaria made an interesting observation Sunday. Perry was the only one
who signed on to a report from CSIS about infrastructure improvements,
including Obama.
Of course Perry is also not shy about spending government money to
create jobs

The problem with the democrats on this plan is they want concessions
from unions and streamlined permitting processes.
Zakaria points out that 64% of the projects that wound otherwise be
shovel ready, are hung up in environmental permit troubles.

The unions are blocking anyone who has not done time in grade in the
particular union that runs a job (Readaid union dues for the
required number of years.) from working and that is about 90% of the
unemployed.

You're implying that a union could do something wrong. Shame on you.

On 10/4/11 5:45 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:37:16 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:46:23 -0400, X `
wrote:

...ain't running, he says.

Still leaves hope for my dream team of Perry-Bachmann, Perry-Palin,
Perry-O'Donnell, Perry-Cain...the GOP deserves a ticket as bat**** crazy
as it is.

Zakaria made an interesting observation Sunday. Perry was the only one
who signed on to a report from CSIS about infrastructure improvements,
including Obama.
Of course Perry is also not shy about spending government money to
create jobs

The problem with the democrats on this plan is they want concessions
from unions and streamlined permitting processes.
Zakaria points out that 64% of the projects that wound otherwise be
shovel ready, are hung up in environmental permit troubles.

The unions are blocking anyone who has not done time in grade in the
particular union that runs a job (Readaid union dues for the
required number of years.) from working and that is about 90% of the
unemployed.

If we are lucky, maybe we'll be invaded by the USA and, in order to
win hearts and minds, they will build roads, bridges, and buildings!

We're now The Mouse that Roared?

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 10/4/11 6:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:42:33 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/4/11 5:37 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:46:23 -0400, X `
wrote:

...ain't running, he says.

Still leaves hope for my dream team of Perry-Bachmann, Perry-Palin,
Perry-O'Donnell, Perry-Cain...the GOP deserves a ticket as bat**** crazy
as it is.

Zakaria made an interesting observation Sunday. Perry was the only one
who signed on to a report from CSIS about infrastructure improvements,
including Obama.
Of course Perry is also not shy about spending government money to
create jobs

The problem with the democrats on this plan is they want concessions
from unions and streamlined permitting processes.
Zakaria points out that 64% of the projects that wound otherwise be
shovel ready, are hung up in environmental permit troubles.

The unions are blocking anyone who has not done time in grade in the
particular union that runs a job (Readaid union dues for the
required number of years.) from working and that is about 90% of the
unemployed.

Unions don't run construction jobs. General contractors do. The general
selects the subs.


That depends on where you are. It is true in Florida or any other
right to work state but if you are in one of those mobbed up union
states up north, trying to hire someone who is not blessed by the
union will get the job shut down, legally or illegally.
Davis Bacon will be a problem too because the "prevailing wage" will
be pegged at whatever the union says it is.

Prevailing wages are published and known.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 10/4/11 6:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:21:47 -0400, X `
wrote:


Unions don't run construction jobs. General contractors do. The general
selects the subs.


That depends on where you are. It is true in Florida or any other
right to work state but if you are in one of those mobbed up union
states up north, trying to hire someone who is not blessed by the
union will get the job shut down, legally or illegally.
Davis Bacon will be a problem too because the "prevailing wage" will
be pegged at whatever the union says it is.

Prevailing wages are published and known.

Yes they are, The union provides them in a union state.

That still does not address the jurisdictional issue. The union will
tell the GC who they have to hire ... unless they want to get
struck.

You don't mean "jurisdictional" issue.


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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 10/4/11 7:58 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:05:32 -0400, X `
wrote:

That still does not address the jurisdictional issue. The union will
tell the GC who they have to hire ... unless they want to get
struck.

You don't mean "jurisdictional" issue.

Certainly. If you have a guy who is not in the Operating Engineers,
running the backhoe (maybe an out of work carpenter) The OE union will
say that is "their" job and start a jurisdictional dispute.
I grew up around this. My mom worked at the Teamsters International
and that was pretty much what she did all day, trying to arbitrate
this bull****..

While there are jurisdictional disputes, they rarely are between trades
as disparate as operating engineers and carpenters, and usually those
disputes are settled at the local union level, rarely on the jobsite.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

On 10/4/2011 7:58 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:05:32 -0400, X `
wrote:

That still does not address the jurisdictional issue. The union will
tell the GC who they have to hire ... unless they want to get
struck.

You don't mean "jurisdictional" issue.

Certainly. If you have a guy who is not in the Operating Engineers,
running the backhoe (maybe an out of work carpenter) The OE union will
say that is "their" job and start a jurisdictional dispute.
I grew up around this. My mom worked at the Teamsters International
and that was pretty much what she did all day, trying to arbitrate
this bull****..

Yup, teamsters.. I remember *we* used that *method* to shut down the
warehouse for almost a week by parking a bunch of "broken" (pulled the
horn wire out) jacks and forklifts in the middle of the isles.
Management could not even move them to the side of the isles or they
would get written up for "stealing a job" when in actuality, few if any
of the "problems" were really anything that would preclude a non union
company from having the guys move their jacks to the sides of the isles
instead of across at each end as we were told to do by the stewards...

Three, two man shifts of "certified mechanics" had to go out over the 17
acre warehouse and move them one at a time until we could move through
the isles again. And at the same time because of the "designated" safety
area, they could only work on two at at time anyway. Each *fix* took
probably an hour or two once the paperwork was done, the horn wire or
whatever fixed, moved around, and put back in service. This action cost
the company millions of dollars over almost a week... Funny how much
Unions are like the DNC... Playing one side against the other, and
sucking what they can out of the middle.